Feb. 15, 2023
Season 5, Episode 3
Eric and Gil discuss news, the State of the Union and the Grammys
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Eric:Hello and welcome to the Q Lounge A podcast that is going to bring you news, stories, and life situations as it pertains to the LGBTQ I a plus experience.. I'm Eric. And I'm Gil. How are you doing today, Gil?
Gil:I am doing well. it's, how do we say here debate. It's been so beautiful during day and at night. I am for freezing wrapping myself up to blankets and I'm getting flashbacks of, my time in Albuquerque. It needs to be like that all the time. how are
Eric:you doing? I'm doing well. My allergies are really bad right now, which is odd because we had snow the last two days,
Gil:oh, you guys really? Yeah,
Eric:Albuquerque Snow, we had Snow. Oh, I, yeah, Everything was like on two hour delay yesterday, but the rows were completely clear. Of course,
Gil:take, we'll take the delay. of course.
Eric:So thank you guys all for joining us today. or this week. So a lot of news to discuss, Gil.
Gil:My God. Yes.
Eric:So let's talk about Wales. Ooh,
Gil:tell us.
Eric:Wales has launched an ambitious lgbtq plus action plan that includes banning conversion therapy and introducing self IDs.
Gil:Ooh, that is awesome. I think so I'm curious, like I said, I'm curious now that when the UK government struck down Scotland if they're gonna, potentially do the same thing to conservative government there, it kind of challenge Wales potentially.
Eric:Yeah, no, I agree. That was my thought. I was like, didn't we just have something similar happen with Scotland, like So I was curious on how they were gonna handle that. Yeah.
Gil:I, huge steps. At least we know it's getting out there. There's support for it. Yes. Yeah. But I'm just, like I said, it's that greater good kind of thing for them is what's gonna happen with it. And if this might potentially put an extra wedge in the relations. Not that I don't think we else would break away, but Scotland definitely would. Yeah. Yeah, that's, I'd be excellent for them though. Great job. I think
Eric:that's great. And I maybe, because you have, you already have Scotland who already passed their laws and was like and then Wales now with this maybe the Torrey, powered government of the uk will have to be like, okay, let us sit back and listen now because you actually have two entities coming at you saying, no, it needs to go this way.
Gil:Correct. And you're thinking that plus the, they've been under political turmoil with their third prime minister in pretty much 72 hours. They've had I, the what? The KU Elizabeth passed away. There's people already get rid of the monarchy. It's obsolete. Eddie, who so I think there's, especially now
Eric:questions, especially now with all the Harry revelations.
Gil:It. Very true. Very true. The only thing I just, sidebar about the Harry thing. It's just, I'm just thinking how much money he's made off of speaking about how much he doesn't care for the monarchy. or just being part of the family. I'm just thinking, it's the irony of I don't like them. I can't stand them, but I've written like my fourth book regarding them and making the money off of it. I don't know. For me it just kinda okay, here's your another new book. new book. We've done the interviews,
Eric:but it's only really been one book, hasn't it? No,
Gil:because I thought they had another one prior. Then it, this is his personal tell-all with bombs. Then they did the Oprah interview. No, I know. He's trying to
Eric:interviews. I, he is had interviews and I know they had the, was it the Netflix special? There was also a Netflix thing on the whole, but as far as like the actual book, I'm just going like literal.
Gil:Yeah. Yeah. It just feels like it's a lot of profiting for the same, I don't know, that's just me i's kinda okay, I thought we're breaking away, break away, but Okay. But that's just, anyways, high digress with that
Eric:one. I think it's part of him like, yeah. Healing from his trauma. and recognizing his trauma and recognizing his triggers and the influence he was under, and how he may have been problematic because of, said influence. and now he's trying to right his wrongs maybe and come to his own, I don't know. I don't know enough about them to really have an opinion, so
Gil:they, yeah. And it, it sucks because it's just like that they grew up in the spotlight. Yeah. And I could not only imagine that or there's a camera on you at all times. And you have to act a certain way, from the get go. It just, it would fuck anyone up. We don't have any cameras on us, and we would be like, we're ready. having own stuff to
Eric:deal with. I'm already fucked up because of trauma. and they had to deal with some of the worst trauma in the world with the spotlight on them after the death of their mother. Oh my God. And the way she died. Yeah. So
Gil:I could not imagine if I had to walk, what they were, nine, seven, something
Eric:like that. They were young. They were very young.
Gil:Yeah.
Eric:But away from the anyways, away from the royal family, but still in the, in, in England proper. England has now has h I v tests that show your results in 15 minutes and they will be made. freely available. Ooh.
Gil:So that's excellent.
Eric:It says, this is according to gay times, Uhhuh they work in a similar way to a Covid 19 lateral flow test as it just takes a few drops of blood from a small prick on the finger with the results appearing soon after.
Gil:Oh. It's almost like checking for, your sugar levels. Yeah. It sounds oh, if you're diabetic. Yeah. That's gonna a quicker, Oh, that's excellent. Huh? I think so. I think it's really cool. What, do you know what the standard time right now is currently to get results back?
Eric:the OraQuick test, which is the one that's available here in the US Okay. usually gets results within 20 to 40 minutes. Okay. Okay. so not much faster, but still definitely faster. And I know every second counts and Ora quick uses. I believe like the cheek in saliva where this is an actual blood test. Okay. Plus this is gonna be free. Where that's not gonna happen in the us
Gil:God, no We
Eric:could hope. I think that's, I think that's pretty awesome. I think it'd be cool if we, yeah, you have, it would definitely help a lot with like hookup culture. Yeah. Take a test and then see what the results are and if the results look good, then you can get to it. If not, there becomes, and this happens with the aura quick too though, that say someone gets unfavorable results, then it turns into a totally different situation. And even though like you may have just been meeting for a hookup, you end up being there for the person who. Literally just got some super devastating, possibly devastating news. I know the Ora quick. Correct. Does I, and I don't know the figures off the top of my head, but does have a slightly higher percentage of false negatives, or false positives. Oh, so you still need to go and get like an actual blood test? Correct. The ora quick.
Gil:So well at least it's a false positive versus being a false negative. That'd be terrible. because it'd be like, oh, we're okay. And the reality is, yeah, not so I'd rather be overprotective than not true. Okay. Yeah. that's good. At least we're making headway with that it, yeah. But one day it will be free
Eric:I think. I think it's, I think it's, yeah, I, I think it should be standard. I think countries should do like they did with covid testing and just make home tests freely available like they are in England. Correct.
Gil:Because then it becomes a national issue. it's
Eric:spreads. And the thing is HIV is still very much a pandemic. Correct. And this is what, 40 years? 40 plus years. Yeah. And we're still dealing with it. yes, we've made amazing strides and we talk about that on many of these episodes. We've made amazing strides as far as like treatments and preventative measures. But there's still no cure. Correct. and. What was it? I just found out that if you are going to donate blood, like I know we talked about blood donation I think a couple episodes ago. how the FDA's changing it for people who haven't had more than one partner within the last three months and have had anal sex. I believe that was like the criteria. Yes. but I guess I had just recently heard too that if you're going to donate blood, you also have to be off of your prep. I wanna say it's for two weeks or maybe a month. I wanna say it's two weeks though, because that can skew how your results are read and it can say that you don't have h I V when you may actually have it. But that can concerns me too because you get tested regularly for, prep when you have, when you're on prep, you have to get tested every three months. Oh yes. So I'm like, wouldn't those results be skewed too? So I don't know. I have to do more research on that. I know with aptitude, which is the injectable prep, it's an even longer wait. Like you have to be off of it even longer. And I don't remember those. I don't. I'll do some research you guys and I'll come back and have the answers, which I just remembered that in my head, so I just something to be aware of or something you can look up as well. Or you can message us and tell me, what? It's
Gil:Roger, here's the answer.
Eric:email us at info dot theq lounge gmail.com. What
Gil:we forget we need to inject that also, that information. Yes. Are they allowed to DM us Also on Instagram,
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Gil:fancy
Eric:Move on up And we'll probably say all this at the end if I remember too. Cause I've been pretty forgetful, you guys. I almost feel like we have, I know I'm getting way off on tangent right now. I almost feel like we're like super brand new to this now, like our finding our way through because we're, I keep forgetting to mention all of our socials and all of our, correspondence outlets, To
Gil:be fair, we haven't had to do it since season one, so we're true. We updated, as I'm sure people are listening, we've updated our music. Three people. Yeah. We've had a new facelift. we wrinkled, we took away all our wrinkles. true. On our updated photos. and so yes, bear with us. We're re-up updating on how we're talking. We either reformatted the way we approach this podcast a little bit. So yeah, just a little. It's a little bit of revival, right? Little,
Eric:yeah. It's a new era. it's back to news going a little further east, going a little further east. Hong Kong has ruled that trans people should be allowed to change their gender on their ID without undergoing surgery. So I'm gonna actually just read the, that. It's fantastic. It's amazing. I'm gonna just read the news story really quickly or an excerpt from it. Okay. Hong Kong's top court has ruled that transgender people should be allowed to change the gender shown on their government issued ID without undergoing sex reassignment surgery. Trans activist, Henry Edwards Tse, and another trans man known publicly only as Q, filed a legal challenge against the current policy, which says trans people can only update the gender on their ID cards if they undergo certain surgeries in 2019. Prior to the ruling, Tse, told A F p. that this policy outed trans people every time they show an ID to someone. Now in a decision written by Chief Justice Andrew Chung and Justice's PJ Riviero and PJ Faulk. The court of the final appeals has ruled that this is a violation of the right to privacy, which is protected in the city's bill of rights. So that's pretty amazing.
Gil:And that is amazing. I think, I wonder if they would do that here also in the US at some point. it would be a state by state I'm assuming,
Eric:kind of thing. It would be a state by state thing cuz you have so many states here that would just absolutely be against that. And so many people that would be against that. I know we're gonna talk about a lot about those people in a few minutes, but I don't know. I think. in maybe 15 years, you might see something like that happen when it gen Z and Alpha actually have control. And it's no longer the boomers and the first half of the Xers. Yeah. Actually a lot of generation X I think it's only like the zeal cusps that might be a little bit more open. Correct. I don't know. We'll see. But it's interesting. Makes sense. I think I do sense. Think you right though. I think it would be a state by state thing.
Gil:Yeah. Cuz there I don't, I mean somebody I'm sure could correct. I don't believe Yeah. The driver's license and stuff like that with what goes on. It is a federal thing. It's gonna be a state. Yeah. That should be a state by state.
Eric:I think as a state by state thing, cuz remember New Mexico had all their issues with their IDs and they weren't gonna be able to fly. Yeah. Unless you had certain IDs and.
Gil:So I think it is the same. That's what we're dealing with in California. How is it now? Yeah. Cause they want the real id. And that's what was supposed to happen this year and then they delayed it to next, I think it's next year or something like that. Yeah.
Eric:I think I got my real Id like a year or two ago. I don't remember. Okay.
Gil:So I travel with my passport normally when I'm going abroad or leaving California. Pretty much. And I'll get my driver's license currently can still get me to drive. Then I'm eventually I'll update actually that's what it is. In short.
Eric:And we have more states and more Republicans pushing to restrict drag performances in attacking trans community. Montana actually just. Pass like a horrifying bill, or at least it passed their state senate and it has to go to their state house now. And Okay. It's in the vein of, what's it called? Here it is. Montana Senate passes social transition restrictions in Care ban for trans youth. So something similar to what, Utah just did, but Utah's has actually passed. Yeah. Ones, states considering new regulations or bans on drag shows would be Montana, which I just mentioned. the two Dakotas. Okay. Nebraska, Missouri, Arkansas, Texas, Arizona, and I thought Arizona was getting slightly more progressive. Tennessee, West Virginia and South Carolina.
Gil:A lot of states that, or we fly right over or we have to connect to unfortunately. Yeah.
Eric:And again, like we talked about in one of the last episodes, they're equating drag culture and the trans community. Yeah. They're two
Gil:separate,
Eric:they're two separate. Completely separate. Yeah. And I don't know, I just, I feel, I don't, I just, I'm trying to understand why the trans community, and I mean in extension, the drag community and the L G B T community, but specifically the trans community are being so targeted. And I know it's because it's the smaller group, it's the more vulnerable group. And so you have that PAC mentality. and Republicans are trying to do their last power grab. and maybe I'm answering my own questions, but it's really disturbing to me and it's really upsetting to me. Any insights and
Gil:I don't know, I am with you with this at some point. When are we, I don't know. I'm just, I'm so tired of talking about the cultural war situation where it's like I said, what's the new flavor right now? It's, you are right on the trans, it, the trans bills, the anti-trans bills that are just, it's state after state. And they're just launching as many as they can seeing with sticks on the wall. and make that law and these effect. And I think that's what people forget is that these were some, these are people's neighbors. They could be their child. this, these are people. And I think they're great at the Republican. Let me just be specific. The Republicans are very good over the last, what? 30 years? Almost 40 years of creating these fake war, this fake cultural war that does not exist. Yeah. I just saw this. It's us versus them.
Eric:Look, I just saw this thing and what was it? Oh, I'm trying to remember exactly what it was. Oh yeah. So you remember the cake maker? Yeah. From Colorado. Actually, I think there's a movie called The Cake Maker, which is like an L G B T Q film that I have to watch, but the Oh, cake. the guy who makes cakes in Colorado. Yes. you, we, I think everyone should know about that story. The guy, he refused to bake cakes for an L G B LGBTQ couple for their wedding cuz it went against his religious beliefs, whatever. So I guess you have a lot of people now going to him to bake cakes for like pro cannabis stuff. Oh. And so he has now said no about that because it goes against his religious beliefs. And, I believe, I don't know if he was on the Ingram angle, if anyone doesn't know what that is. Uhhuh it's Laura Ingram show on Fox News. She's a horrifying, vile, gross. I wanna say a few other choice words person. Yes. But I don't know if he was actually on or if she was just talking about it, but she was saying how it's so hard to be a Christian these days and so hard to be a Christian business owner these days because they won't let you have any rights. You have no rights as a Christian now. Yes. You're the expression on your face as it all
Gil:They have been milking that bullshit since their founding times. Oh, it's all been us. It's about how many fucking war the Crusades. Look at your goddamn history. nine of 'em. You failed nine crusades.
Eric:you guys are the ones who, this is
Gil:your history. How many people have that church killed before the splinter, before the Protestant Revolution? Out of the Catholics, how many wars were started on their behalf? Exactly. Don't even start that bullshit. I know, I agree. They ha Oh my God. And it's funny because we have to know their history better than they did do because they don't look at it, they don't read the fucking thing. So we'll do it for
Eric:them. They just go by their mythical
Gil:book it makes no goddamn sense. Yeah. The book of fables, I don't, they're always attacked. Oh my. Ugh. I'm attacked. Yeah. Oh my goodness.
Eric:Yeah. I found it a little amusing. It's mind boggling. It is. It's amusing. In a weird way. Yeah. I don't know if it's really amusing.
Gil:Shoot, but let's just start doing outta work. They challenged me. I can, I work in the, I work with the public. I should sit there and just start. Nope, this I disagree with you. This is against my belief. Yeah. Next I'd be fired with the shorthand. This for everyone.
Eric:no, we would, and this actually gives us a nice little segue into our next topic of Sotu or State of the Union address. Oh, yes.
Gil:sorry. And the, you're young in hip with those terms. I'm like, so who? Oh,
Eric:Yeah. I'd be prior when we were in our precast or prepo ice, I said so too. And Gil looked at me Yes. With his mouth open. what the hell are you talking about? So that's what we're laughing about right now.
Gil:do soda or something.
Eric:But, I, and I know there's a lot to unpack with that, and we definitely will, but I am just using the segue of the Republicans because of their behavior last night and all their heckling. I don't know if you, I'm assuming you watched it or you at least caught up on it, right? Oh, I watched it. Okay. I
Gil:watched it too. Oh yeah. I was in March. I watched it live. Yep. I did my best not to launch at myself at them because I'm just sitting with what the fuck?
Eric:we can talk about that. Do we wanna start with Republicans? Cause I know I segued with that. Or do you want to talk about overall thoughts and opinions on the whole speech?
Gil:Let's go. Thoughts. Let's go with thoughts and with the speech and, The Democratic Party, the what we're, they're in charge right now with the presidency. So let's talk about what it is because the Republicans, it's been the same bullshit for at least 40 plus years. What's the 2016? No, let's go further. 2014. Same since Reagan. Yeah. They can go that way. They've been acting like that. I don't wanna give 'em as much power about that over the podcast, but let's start with kind of the some highlights, what was your over, what was your overall
Eric:with the, the, before we go into what were your overall
Gil:opinions of it though, without the specifics? I thought it was, I thought it was probably one of the better speeches for Biden. and I think it pretty much cemented that more than likely he is going to be running again. for 2024. And that's at least the impression I'm getting because it sounded like the man who was like, this is the shit we did. this is what we were able to accomplish during my time period, just in my two years. it's like doing a laundry list, which Democrats finally took power of. of this is my ownership, this is, the whole blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. This is what y'all did. This is what I had to clean up. this is, and then there's also that game plan for the future. This is what needs to happen. This is on your table. And that leads, for me, I got more of that impression versus the typical democratic speech of, whoa is me. Oh no. I, I'm having to now, it's like allowing the Republicans steer the narrative. Biden created the narrative. This is what we're gonna talk about today. Okay. So I thought he did a pretty good job compared to his first one, which to me seemed a little bit more on the rock here. Okay. And he did Mad Li as he normally does. Okay. Which always could put him in some trouble. Yeah. Oh, which you,
Eric:I do agree with you that I think it was probably one of his better speeches. I do think that whole speech could have been 10 minutes long if we didn't have to stand and clap every two seconds, but here was my thing with it though. Yes. It was definitely one of his better speeches and it was probably one of the better speeches of a Democrat. but, oh, let me say this first too. I liked that he was going through a lot more progressive ideas and sounding a lot more Bernie Sanders, campish. So I appreciated all of that. Here's where I take issue with it though. I feel like a lot of it was. Talking points. And it was just a lot of rhetoric because they know that the Republicans have control of the house, so nothing that they say they want to pass is actually going to pass. So then we still, we can move back to the way it was, but never actually progress forward. And that we can say oh, we talked about this and we wanted to do this, but the Republican stopped it. The Republican stopped it, which very likely is true. But I feel like they were making those points because they know that's true and that's what the outcome's gonna be, so that they don't have to worry still about losing their power. Because as much as I, I don't like the Republicans and you know that I think anyone on this, that listen to this podcast knows that, and I'm definitely much more Democrat than I am. I'm not Republican at all. I still don't. Think I still find that there's a lot of corruption within the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party too. And I still think our Democrats that are in power now are right of cen are too right of center even for me. Okay. So I feel like a lot of it was still just like talking points cuz nothing's gonna get done because you have the house. that's gonna roadblock everything. But they still made those talking points and made the point to say them so that they could say, oh we tried, we dis we talked about it, but they stopped it. That was my overall impression. Okay. now you can come and attack me.
Gil:no. I just think because of the, I, for me personally, it just, the majority for the, yes, it's Republican house, but it's too close Yeah. Of a majority that it's not like before years passwords. Oh, I gotta flip 50 seats Republican to kind side with me. It's I gotta flip six. That's true. Where I could find those six. And that's true. And I think that's the only reason for me. I get it. And I don't disagree with that because historically, yeah, this is what it's just rhetoric after rhetoric and it's, the same thing, talking points and point and I don't disagree, but only, only thing gives me hope with this one's because of that. Ed McCarthy sold his soul. He power, he doesn't really have much control. He has more power.
Eric:Biden, no power
Gil:at all. As we talked about, Biden was able to do more shit in that little, his speech. Then McCarthy can. yeah. And
Eric:the thing is he pretty much made him his bitch. He did. And the whole Republican, he's the bitch of the whole Republican caucus. Yeah. Because he can't really tell people to, I know he was like, there were a few points where he was like telling them this, trying to tell them to settle down in little subtle ways, but he can't really reprimand anybody because they can say, oh, I vote. no confidence in you as leader. And then he's out. Correct. And he changed it. So like any one person can do that. Correct. So talk about, or I guess we can go there now, talk about how the behavior of the Republican caucus last night, especially like your greens and bobbers and stuff like that, and all the heckling that was going on, if I did that at work or at a work function, Yeah. I would either be fired or at least severely reprimanded.
Gil:Correct. And that is something you could not do. There are people like you and I, you've been in the work industry for quite some time, like I have, and of our listeners, I'm sure you guys have worked and you have people you don't agree with. There are people I have to sit there fake smile and just absolutely not my little happy ass. Cause I need a paycheck every day I do this, but I would, I could not imagine me sitting there heckling, ugh. making the faces screaming at them. full throttle. Yeah. I could not imagine that. And that's the part I don't understand. These are paid people through taxpayer. Yeah. Monday, who to provide to do a job to
Eric:represent you have amazing benefits and pension for life.
Gil:Yes. To do. And that's the part I just, I could not believe a grown ass people. they're not even like young. These are like fifties. These are 60 year olds acting like fucking kids. we're not British. This is where I don't you, I've seen them, the House of Commons. Everyone's yelling back and forth, and that's not the way we do it here. We have not, but with the Tea Party and allowing that shit to have within the Republican party, it's creating a new norm that is not something you should be proud of. if I was a Republican, I would be ashamed of my party to be doing that kind of stuff. What I dreamt of Democrats doing it during the Bush administration, like it would've been funny, but we didn't do it then. We still acted with, dignity as best we can. Even under the Trump years. Yeah. We, how do you protest everyone coming white
Eric:No, I will, I will say, Nancy Pelosi did rip up his speech. I still think that's one of the greatest things that's ever happened.
Gil:It was subtle.
Eric:It was amazing. It was amazing. It was awesome. But people got mad about that cuz they thought that was childish. And I may, it maybe it was, or remember Republic, maybe it was petty. But you know what, it was petty for a reason.
Gil:the, there's the guy is being indicted for everything Under the sun. it's the least that she could have done. Yeah. I just, yeah, just that the behavior was just, it's childish and it's something that it should not be tolerated. Yeah. Yeah. That's the part I just, I don't Hi Chris. I don't get It's right behind. Yeah. Maybe we should act like that at work. Now we're like, it's okay for our Congress
Eric:people to deal with. Maybe. it's just like when they were having the impeachment and the removal trials and the Republican, Republican Senate was like, we're gonna, we already gonna tell you how we're gonna vote. We're not gonna hear any of the case, and we already know how we're gonna vote, and we're gonna go have lunch with the defense attorneys. And we're gonna tell them what they're doing wrong and what words they need to say. I couldn't do that. I go to jury selection. I'm not allowed to sit there and say, oh, I already know how I'm gonna vote. I'm gonna go have lunch with the attorneys now and tell them that they can trust me.
Gil:It makes absolutely no sense
Eric:if I get, if I, you would get in so much trouble. Yeah. If I get subpoenaed, I have to show up to court. I can't just evade the
Gil:subpoena. But then again, maybe because we are of middle class, we're not rich. Yeah.
Eric:And we're of color. Of color.
Gil:It's an unfortunate truth. the other layer. Yeah. But I, yeah, the, it was desp to me. It was just despicable. It was disrespectful. It was just, come on, now we're grown ass people. Yeah. You can still disagree. You can protest in your own way and do assembly. Yeah. You do it in class a little, Yeah. I raise my eyebrow. I'm still staring at you, but I'm eyebrow race. I'm not yelling. Yeah. And like you said, as if we're in a Walmart, no, we don't do that.
Eric:like you said, like Nancy Pelosi, she did it subtly. She didn't make a big commotion. She just grabbed the speech and tore it up.
Gil:they loved it so
Eric:much. Oh, I loved that. It was so good. I actually still watch that clip every once in a while as a feel good. Pick me up
Gil:Oh, when she claps right at Tim? Yeah. When she's that's low clap. I'll like, yes, Nancy And, speaking of that, it was really nice of Bited to at honor Nancy Pelosi about that, saying that she was the greatest speaker during, I was very happy with that. And obviously Paul Pelosi was also there, her husband, making his appearance as well. OB obviously, no shocker, a lot of the Republicans were sitting down of course. And a lot of no claps. Yeah. staring vacantly. But, Biden did go through quite a few things and obviously for me, my favorite was when he was talking about the cuts to social sec, social security and, Medicare and Medic Medicaid. Yeah.
Eric:no, I love that. I love that whole part. Yeah. Cause he totally called the Republicans out on that and Oh yeah. He made a, he basically just made a deal right there on the floor because Correct. They're like, boo, no, you're lying. He is okay, cool. We're gonna say that cuts to Medicare and social security are now off the table. Let's support our seniors. Done. Yeah. And
Gil:like awesome. Oh my God. That's why I feel like with that moment, it sank McCarthy's power right there. I mean it was just that one of those simple moments cuz he sank in, he just sat in his chair like, what the fuck? And there he go. There's your bipartisan, it's feeding also to the narrative of what Biden was talking about when he was running for the campaign. Said, I'm gonna do the bipartisanship. And right there he just linked up to both parties. Yeah.
Eric:Yeah. I
Gil:did like that. Now they have to make sure
Eric:I did like how he was very progressive though, like with the junk fees and yes. Tech and going off about how your cable and phone companies charge you ridiculous amounts if you're gonna switch carriers. I liked his little joke about how the resort fees, when most of those hotels are not resorts. I thought that was cute.
Gil:he had some snarky remarks in there. I loved he, it he
Eric:did. He did. He did. yeah, no, I did appreciate a lot of that. Like I said, I agree with that was one of his better speeches. It was probably, like I said, it was probably one of the better speeches by a Democrat in a while. yeah. And I did that he called them out. I. I did think it was really, so he was honoring the people that, guests that were there that husband and wife, whose daughter ha had cancer, kidney cancer. Yes. I cried with that. And then we haven't really talked, we haven't talked about it on the podcast, but when Tyre Nichols correct. Mom and stepfather,
Gil:I'm glad he, I'm glad they brought them.
Eric:I'm glad he, they brought them. I just I'm sitting there saying they don't want to be there. They want their son back. correct. I'm glad that they were there, but,
Gil:Yes. These are all political moves. let's be clear. They, all of these are political moves. Yeah. Get your emotions. Look at what the presence, we, I know that's basic, but
Eric:he a, he did actually call them and he did actually talk to them and he is actually trying to offer some sort of support. The last person that was in the office didn't care. No. Cut. No, it was good. People on both sides. Nazis and anti-Semitism was Oh, fun. Celebrated on them. It's still celebrated by them. and they're trying to say, oh no, we took Omar's assignments away from her cuz she's anti-Semitic. When, I don't know if you saw a o c I love her. You saw her when you saw her read back to that. Oh my God. It was phenomenal. Yeah.
Gil:Yeah. It's not about consistency. I agree. Yeah, no, they have no fucking idea where up or down would be. cuz I know like Biden, part of that he did call out the, police department supposed to be held accountable. That was one of his loud things. I talked about the climate crisis and obviously tying that to the, to all I'm forgetting his, but the inflation reduction act, that's what I'm trying to say. like tying it all together, this is what good it's done so far. Yeah. Since it's been one of the largest bills that have been, giving back money into the country of okay, let's get the shit fixed because let's bero we need to, and
Eric:we, you and then he also got both people clapping when they're, he was saying, I want supplies that are gonna be used for infrastructure to be made here in the usa. Yeah. So
Gil:it, it makes sense. Yeah.
Eric:And then I don't want to give much breath. Oh, we can. Did you have more to say. Sorry, I'm not, I'm not trying to cut you
Gil:off No, but I think he did a good job also doing the, it's a very blue collar, like talking to the common folk Yeah. Kind of thing. And I think he did a really good job of pitching it to the middle class, to lower middle classes was like, Hey, this is what I'm standing for. This is stuff that we're gonna do to get us back. I agree America, that it's attainable to us. I think he's done, I, for me at least feels like that because I know Republicans love his lean on the, oh, the leftist, the city elitist. all the city folk and, that kind of thing. And I think he's done a good job of dealing with that bullshit. and to be fair. Yeah, go ahead. I would say to be fair though, I don't know where people come up with this. There are more people in this day and age, in 2023, that are living in a city than they are living in the country. That's a fact. True. That's not challengable. because it's true. True. Yeah. There are more, versus we're talking about the 18 hundreds. Yeah. There were more people living in the country versus living in big urban cities. But that's not the way it is now in the modern 21st century. True. So I'll just say it, why are we putting so much power into something that doesn't Wells not representative. And
Eric:I thought I, I did like his reach to the middle class. I liked him talking about how corporations and billionaires should be paying their fair share of taxes. How Yes. A teacher should not be paying more than a billionaire in taxes. and I agree with that fully.
Gil:Yep. He wanted a, minimum. I think it was 60,000 minimum for high for, for teachers. Yeah. Starting salary should be Yeah. I agree.
Eric:I agree. Duh. Teachers, how much work put in way, way more than they do now. But the first thing people cut is education and the
Gil:arts always. And then they're shocked. And they're shocked. I'll get stupid. can the classroom size went from 20 to 60. Yeah. You cut the only school in the area. what do you think
Eric:is gonna happen? And the teacher has to buy all their own supplies. Yeah.
Gil:it makes absolutely no sense.
Eric:Can we talk about, just briefly, the horrid tragedy of what was considered the re. Or the response.
Gil:oh, abso freaking, we'll talk about, our lady Sarah Ee Cousin Sanders. Yes, Go ahead. Let's talk about her. Bless her heart.
Eric:She was just like spewing a lot of lies and sh I guess she was fact checked pretty good. I even saw some Republican Pundits saying, she just sounded really stupid and we were laughing at some of the stuff she said, like when she was talking about how like they went to visit the soldiers in Iraq and making it sound like they were the only ones who ever did that and whatever else. I find it interesting how it's like ironic to. I hope I'm hoping I'm saying that how they always talk about like the woke left and cancel culture. Oh yeah. The woke left when you had Michelle Wolf, the comedian who was at the correspondent dinner. and the correspondent dinner is a roast kind of situation. Oh, absolutely. And so she makes a couple jokes about Kellyann and Huckabee Sanders and like they stopped having correspondence dinners and she got canceled and she had to apologize. I'm like, you're just trying to sit here and spin it, saying that this is the problem when you guys are actually the problem. Correct. And it's, yeah, that I just found her speech. I wanna say I almost found it amusing because it was so stupid. But it's actually scary when you think about how many people actually listen and believe and follow. Correct. And it was such a hateful speech when she kept trying to, hit home. The point of Democrats can't even tell you, what a woman is. Oh, what a woman is. Yeah. I was so offended by that. That was so gross. Because you know exactly where she was trying to go with that. Correct.
Gil:It's the subtleties with these ones. She's a trash person. Little dog whistle bullshit. Yeah. But people are listening. They are. There's an entire group listening to that shit. Yep. And believing it. And she's over there, talking about just, exactly what you're talking about is the mobs, the leftists and blah, blah, blah. But it's just. It's all bullshit. literally bullshit.
Eric:And they're saying like she's trying to position herself cuz she's trying to be homeboy's running mate. And I think she's, I just, that, that response and or rebuttal, whatever. I just found highly problematic. I didn't expect anything other than that, especially from the Republicans, but especially from her,
Gil:what they need to do. And this is what, the disappointing cuz she loved to harp, she's 40, she's young, she's the new f you know, this is the new generation of Republicans. But there was no plan in any of it. It's all about they failed you. They have the leftist mob, we have the, all of that bullshit. We're good Christians, but there's, we're good Christians. But what, that was the plan. what is their plan? What are they gonna do differently? They had the last four. So we have only had two. They had four years under Trump. Yeah. They couldn't secure it clearly because that wasn't working. Hence why he lost. But there was no rebuttal of what are we gonna do differently? This is my plan. This is what our plan as the party. If you vote for us in 2024, there is no fucking plan. No. This
Eric:is their plan. Like I'm telling you what their plan is right now. We are Christians. We are going to praise the Lord. We are gonna convert everyone to Christianity and we are gonna sing kumbaya.
Gil:This is the lady who's the governor of Arkansas who ranks in the bottom 10 in every fucking category you can imagine from healthcare to education. Congratulations. There is, you're holding the floor literally. Yeah. There's nothing to be proud of for that.
Eric:She's a trash person. I
Gil:don't know. She's a trash person. It was trash. The whole thing was trash. I'll trash It is trash I couldn't believe it. That was who they chose.
Eric:Yeah, they did it cuz I mean they did it cuz she's the youngest governor and he's the oldest president. So they were trying to appeal to the young, but, and there's definitely young that some of the young that are attracted to that mindset. But majority of your youth are on the other side. They're all on the left side. That's why they're trying to data, that's why they're trying to up the voting age
Gil:Yeah. Because the data does not look good. It does not go well for them. The millennials now at 40 or in their forties now. Yeah. And we're voting left, more left than Gen X was at the same time. Yeah. Boomers silent, whatever We are farther to the left. We have just been remaining that way. There's been zero inclination that this generation, we haven't shifted. To the right. There's no reason to. It hasn't benefited us in any capacity. Nope. Why would I, more murders. I'm gonna switch for what? Yeah. Nothing. Nothing. No reason It's ridiculous. Yeah. But here we are. They allowed it. They allowed it to happen. Yes.
Eric:So any more
Gil:thoughts on this? And this is my thing with. This is just my last kind of tidbit about with the extremists, and this goes same thing to the left, is that we as a country need to be very much better, I think, of holding extreme on both sides left and right accountable for it. Because you're thinking of the greater good, the greater, majority Are people all like this? No. Do I agree with a lot of things from the extreme left? I do. There's some things, so I'm like, absolutely. Why not? It doesn't hurt to try at this point, but I don't know. I just feel like this also has to be some medium. But
Eric:here's the thing too, and I hear you and I'm not really trying to be combative, but I'm just gonna make this comment. you can't, I don't think you can equate the extreme right to the extreme left. Cause one side the right is trying to take rights away, is trying to put guns in everyone's hands is. Trying to force people to have children. And then you have another, on the extreme, on the other side is trying to give everyone healthcare and is trying to make sure everyone has a livable wage and is trying to cap prescriptions. I don't think that they equate to each other cuz one is literally trying, the extreme on one side is really fighting for the betterment of society and for the whole and the other is fighting for the right to be more Christian than you were before.
Gil:But that's the thing is that if you're being on either extreme, you're gonna believe that you're, I is righteous of what you are. And that's the part that I think is more of the scary part because Yeah, and like I said, I'm gonna lead obviously leading the life and I do agree with a lot of the things as well, but it's at the same time, it's that caution. I always say we, it's caution about it cuz Yeah, you could go for it. That's what they did. They fed the right, they fed the extreme right because to them they felt that their America was lost. Something about it is lost. They're losing ground. So they went extreme. Because to them it, yeah, that sounds right. I get a, I get my job back, my family history, we were here, we're gonna get this back again and I could, revisit Kansas and make it whatever the hell it is. That theory, their mindset was of that self-righteous of that was taken from me. And then, except we're
Eric:not from that. Yeah. And the thing is
Gil:that's the thing to me, extreme is extreme. Either know which way you were trying to go with it. Yeah, because you allow the ex, like I said, when you start going left, it goes, it's, I don't, I, for me, I guess I've always been very cautious with that, where it's, don't let shit snowball because I think the tea part, it can't be that bad. It's only 1% of the thing, shit froze.
Eric:no. I think you can shift too far left. I don't think we're there yet though, but no. Fair. No, we're not. But
Gil:could we
Eric:go there? Yes. No. Yeah, absolutely. And I can understand proceeding with caution because of that. I get that part. I'm just saying as it stands now, I don't think what they're saying the woke extreme left is nearly as treacherous as what we see as the extreme. I know in their viewpoint it is super bad, but if you look at it like we're literally trying to improve your life too, not just This group's life. And I also find it very troubling that the right is now equating c r t with racism and saying that it is a racist teachings. Yeah. That's crazy. I have, I take a lot of issue with that. Yeah. And saying that c r t promotes racism,
Gil:but that's exactly why. But the, it going to the, like I said, part of that, that it's the America law. We never had it, Eric. That's the reason we don't understand it. It's because we're not the majority, we don't have power to, like they do to them. They're losing their power that they have. I've always had the privilege of it. We don't have it. That's why we can't ever understand or comprehend what that looks like. Because I'll give you story. Like me, I have to pick certain dealerships to go to get my car serviced cuz my car can't get serviced everywhere because certain areas also treat me different. even though I have three money. I have great credit. But me going there, they're like, you're, you crossed the bridge, you're on our side of town. What you doing over here? Suddenly, but they're left, they're white. No, and that's what you're, for me that's where that, that America, that they are the majority is in their mind. No,
Eric:and I know that a lot of your, like liberals and neoliberals are very problematic in and of themselves.
Gil:They're extremely cuz living with them. Yeah. No, that was a nightmare.
Eric:No, and I know that, and I am not, I don't disagree with that. And I think they can be, that kind of goes back to what I was alluding to when I was talking about my overall impressions of the speech. Yeah. That we're gonna say all these right things. Yeah. Because we know nothing's gonna get done because we don't, we still don't wanna lose our power and we don't wanna lose our benefit and privilege, but we're just gonna say the right thing. So that just enough. Exactly.
Gil:Yeah. And that's because I agree with you. Yeah. Obviously we're all about making everyone better. Duh. We should. Yeah. That's a common thing. But we're also coming from the point of view of we've been on the, like I said, we're not a power. of privilege. We're demanding it just a seat at the fucking table. But
Eric:we're not even demanding privilege. We're just demanding equality.
Gil:Equity is what I'm looking for. Yeah. I don't know, Bo we have, I obviously, from my pro view, we have a long way to go, but like to them it's all, suddenly the America's gone 1950s,
Eric:We have a very long way to go. Ridiculous. I don't know what our listeners think. Oh yeah. We have a long way. Please feel free to share with us.
Gil:Boy.
Eric:It's been a busy
Gil:week. This always It has been. Yeah. Oh, it has been.
Eric:Let's rewind a couple days and go a little bit lighter, shall we?
Gil:Ooh, yes.
Eric:Let's talk Grammys. What did you think about the Grammys? What was, oh, the Grammys What did you think about the Grammys overall? Just like overall impression first, and then we can dissect a few things.
Gil:overall it wasn't. I am, I'm so up and down with the Grammys where I don't, there are some times where I'm more interested to watch and there's some years I'm, I just straight out, I just look at the results. I'm like, oh, okay. Who won? outta curiosity. just because I don't follow enough big artists that would ever get nominated. I think that's part of it because I'm seeing the same thing. It's oh, another pop person. It's like the same people who're just recycling. but overall, I, this one wasn't too bad. There were some of the musical acts. I had to watch 'em very quickly to just see him. so some of the, the hip hop was amazing when Missy Elliott, doing the whole thing. So I thought that was pretty good. Harry Style's performance, if that was it was okay. It was interesting. That's ok. Yeah. Yeah. it was there. definitely, a choice. Oh, but you, what were you thinking? I
Eric:actually ki I, I'm gonna just probably co-sign with you. I thought, I didn't think I, okay. I I enjoyed it. Overall. I enjoyed it where there were definitely some low points. When I say low, I just mean eh, man, whatever. yes. But overall I enjoyed it. I thought they had a pr for the most part, a pretty diverse representation there. I did enjoy the 50, it did the 50 years of hiphop. I thought that was Yes. Good and well done. I will fully admit, I walked in at the end of Bad Bunny's performance, which I believe opened the show. but what I really appreciated is that he had a lot of different Latin style dancers and he had the ballet folklorico and stuff like that, which you rarely see represented. I was happy about that. I thought that was really awesome. overall though, I thought it was a good show. I'm the same as you. there's some years where I'm like all in and watching it and then there's others. I'm like, eh, I'll see the results tomorrow. Or oh, I find this boring. Oh look, I'm watching another rerun of the Big Bang Theory that I've seen 17 times. But it's funny, and I forget that the Grammys is on, Yeah, So I, that's where I was with it. I actually, for the most part, enjoyed it. I had, it had its issues, but overall it was fine.
Gil:Did you want me to go through the results real quick?
Eric:You can go through the results. So we can talk about other, we can talk about stuff.
Gil:as we know, record of the year, went to Lizzo about damn type. Yes. let's see. We had new artists, Samara, joy Juan, that WA album. I had never Harry,
Eric:I never heard of her. Sorry, I had never heard of her, but I loved her sound when they were playing her music when she went up for her speech. So I might have to check her out. yes, Harry's House, one album of the year. We'll talk about the controversy about that in a minute.
Gil:And then Song of the Year went to just like that from Bonnie Ra, which,
Eric:there's controversy about that too, but I was super happy for her. I'm not a Bonnie Ra fan, but I just thought it was awesome cuz she's an old school, old time singer. Her songwriter. Hell yeah. Good for her.
Gil:yes. yeah, it was funny cuz I was going through like the new artists and I was just going through the list and I was like I only knew one that I could recognize. two, two, I can recognize on that list. And then, like I said, I'm just I'm not, not my cup of tea, or just artist for not you're
Eric:not a mainstream pop
Gil:person. No. There are times I do di and I dabble into it, but these were noted. I just, I did not recognize some of them. like you, what's, it was interesting, I just, I don't know if maybe just this Grammys, I felt like there was a lot of artists nominated for PER category. So there's nine artists, 10 artists for one. And I thought it was heavy. I think traditionally it's five or six, and it still
Eric:heavy. I noticed that it was imbalanced. some categories had five nominees and then other categories had 25. And you're
Gil:like, yeah. Oh, okay. I thought, okay, I thought it was just me. No, this is very odd.
Eric:Yeah, I noticed that too. I was like, oh, wow, that category had three nominees and this one has 612. Makes sense.
Gil:Congratulations for Viola Davis becoming officially and an ego, ego, ego. Which is funny. Tagalog, it's very close to not a good word, Oh, really? But I was like, it's a slang one, but yes. she officially is part of that exclusive,
Eric:with John Legend and Whoopy Goldberg. Yes. And Rita Morano. Although re, Rita Moreno is also a pego. It's cuz she has a Peabody Award on top of her p egot.
Gil:congratulations. Yes. Oh my God. I'm so happy. What she won. I was like, yes.
Eric:deserved for Viola Davis. She's badass. I love her.
Gil:I do too. I really adore her, so that's why I was really, I was like, yes, girl. You got it
Eric:So what, I'm just gonna make a quick little comment too. I always enjoy Taylor Swift at award shows. I know PE a lot of people don't like her and we've had guests on here who don't like her, but I always find her very fun and entertaining at award shows cuz she's just she knows everyone's songs. She's up and dancing to everyone's music. She's like giving standing ovation stuff for all the performers. I just find that really refreshing and it makes me happy. so I appreciate that. I agree. one thing we can't forget to mention, and we'll talk about this in a little bit more detail. Sam Smith and Kim Petris.
Gil:Yes. Yeah. I'm so sorry. I apologize.
Eric:They won for. Was it? what did they win for exactly? I don't remember what the, oh, it was best, duo. Best duo. Yes. Best Duo Group. And, Sam Smith had Kim Petros except the award because she's the first openly trans woman to win a Grammy. Correct. And that's awesome. Now, when I say that she's the first openly correct trans woman, because you have, what's her name? Wendy Carlos. who won three Grammy. her switched on Bach in 1969 and she went on to compose soundtracks for The Shining and a Clockwork Orange. And she's known as the synth queen cuz she's done a lot with synthesizing. And I believe she helped to develop a type of synthesizer. And I don't have it on me right now, but Wendy Carlos is the first trans woman to actually ever win a Grammy, but she was not out. Oh, okay. But super big props to Kim Petris and Sam Smith. I thought the performance was mediocre at best, honestly. Yeah. But I do love that song. Yes. I think that song is sexy as hell. I find it funny that a lot of the conservatives and Christians are. Crying foul saying that the song is a Satanic song and the performance was Satanic and it was so disturbing and all this other stuff. And then what I find even funnier is that the Satanic temple came out and said that they were unimpressed with it and it wasn't at all. oh
Gil:my God.
Eric:But I overall really loved that song. So I was happy about that. Yeah.
Gil:I liked the way they set up the tables to see, or where they put a lot of the nominees and stuff like that right towards the front. Yeah. Like those circular tables, it seemed very more cozy, but also that kumbaya between the various artists and stuff like that. Yeah. let's see. We officially have, I'm sure some of our listeners, be they're Beyonce fans and yeah. Congratulations. She's officially the most decorated one. Yes. Regarding wins. with that, cuz she picked up three, correct. During
Eric:the Grammys, I, she picked up one beforehand and I think she picked up two during the actual televised ceremonies. So now she has 32 Grammys. She beat out, I be the record for a long time was a Hungarian conductor and I don't remember his name. Correct? Correct.
Gil:Yeah. He held it for quite some time.
Eric:so now she's the most decorated, I'm trying to figure out what all she has those awards for, but I'm not gonna hate on her. con like you said, congratulations to her. But I have a couple questions for you recording that now. Okay. After I'm not trying to be petty and I'm not trying to be shady. I'm really not. let's do the, the AOTY or AOTY controversy first. The album of the year Controversy first. Oh, yes. people saying that she should have won and Harry Style should not have won, and oh, it's another white cis male winning. How shocking Beyonce's the Queen, she should have won. now I do break my soul. Yeah. I do that song and I really like The Vogue remix a lot. But why should she have won Album of the Year? I'm trying to understand why people are mad that she didn't win Album of the year. She has 32 Grammys. She's the most decorated artist in Grammy history. Yep. And Harry Styles had three or four writers on his album, him being one of them, where he wrote five songs solely by himself, and then he had help with others. She has 104 writers on her album, like literally 104 writers on her album. And then people are saying, oh, it's because of the samples and the interpolations and all that other stuff that she had to give credit for. We'll look at all those artists that she did not give credit for. That was brought up. So now you're saying she would have she would've had 250. Correct. So it goes back to the Beck thing, and I know. Cis white male again, but he, you had one singer or one writer who wrote not just the lyrics, but like the instrumentation, right? Yeah. One producer and he did all of that himself. Like it was him. Yeah. Versus someone who had 7,264 writers on their album. Correct. So that's where I'm confused.
Gil:cause I'm going through, right? I'm looking at all over the year yet. Adults 30, you have Brandy Carlisle, she could have watch, she's really big and more like the, which i a dork. Brandy Carlisle. She's, yeah. you had, I like Sharp Performance BTS album in there. You had a's first album in 40 fucking years. Liz's album special. Kendrick Lamar was also there. And then DJ Khaled like. It was a pretty b t s was on
Eric:there. Yeah. B t s I thought they were on there with, Coldplay, but
Gil:Oh yeah. it's Coldplay, but it was,
Eric:yeah, b t s was on. But here, let me, but let's go to b t s really quickly, like b t s is literally a movement that, that brought a whole genre of music to the global capacity. Correct. I knew what K-Pop was and a lot of pe there's a lot of people who've listened to K-Pop for years, but in the mainstream world, no one knew what K-pop was until BTS came out. Like b t s is why people know what K-pop is. Correct. They literally ushered in that whole sound to the global masses and global community. And they have yet to win a Grammy. Correct. And then I, and maybe I am reaching on this because I know she Beyonce her 30, her 32nd Grammy was for Best Dance electronic
Gil:album, which I had agitations about.
Eric:I had agitations about that too. what did you think of her thinking the queer community? I think it was a wonderful sentiment. I'm not getting that. I'm not saying that wasn't, and I'm not checking away from her speech. I'm just trying to figure out how I feel about straight people using the word queer
Gil:it's nice to see that sh we made it 27 years after her debut that were here, That there is people there that actually, that she cares about. no, I don't know. I, it's a word that I don't think that she should use. I'm in that same boat of you when straight people use it, because it's historically being used in a very derogatory term Yeah. Towards us. That it's weird that she would say it. It's like me this freely saying, oh, I wanna thank the end community. And they'd be looking, be like, what auntie, what are you doing here? I don't know. I'm
Eric:just, because I feel like I use Word,
Gil:it's a derog,
Eric:It can be. It can be. And that's why you have a lot of people within the community, especially the older generation who do not like that word. Yeah. And rightfully
Gil:I, my, my ate for faggot that some people love it. Yeah. I don't like it. Do you mean when, especially with some of them trying to, let's use it in our foreplay. Don't you fucking start with that word cuz I will snap at you. Yeah. that ain't sexy. That ain't cute. Don't call me
Eric:that. Yeah, no. And I get that. yeah. And we've had that discussion with the few people. We've had people Yeah. And. Yeah. To me, like queer is a word that I don't mind it. I use it for myself. I identify that way, but I think it's a word that has been reclaimed by the community so that we can use
Gil:it. Yeah. We like, between us, I'm like, oh, he's queer dear. Yes. Yeah. Within us we could say that, but if somebody else tell me, then you know, I'm not gonna lie. I'll look at you a little sideways. Exactly. because that's, no, we're not there.
Eric:So I don't, yeah. So I don't know if, so I'm glad to know that I'm not all by myself on that island. Cuz I was like, I don't know if I'm reaching
Gil:you're not, this is my issue. what I kept, cause I kept on my feeds and stuff like that. All I hear is how does Beyonce not win Album Man. But it's like none of them complained, which she won Album of the year for the electronic dance. She's not an electronic artist. No, she's not a dance artist. No. Your pop stay in your can or if you wanna, that's the thing. It's like how is she able be granted, don't get me wrong, back in the day, artists were very limited on where they could go. So especially people of color. I get it. We were kind limited on which categories we put, but it's part of that same thing of why is it okay for her to Hopscotch where she's in the dance album. Then she also wins the r and b part, and then now she's gonna win the Popo. it's the same, no, it's not the best album for every category. Yeah. So you win your category that the, where do you register your music under? And then everyone to me should be a big poll for the overall album of the year, but also with these award ceremonies we're thinking of, it's gonna be an older crowd voting for them also. and I think that's where the body Kicked in. Where she has happy she won has 13 Grammys. She's not new to this.
Eric:No. She was so shocked that she won too. Did you see her reaction? I was shocked. I was shock shocked too. But like I was, like I said earlier, I'm not a big Bonnie rap fan. I think I might like one song, like something to talk about. Yeah. but I was like, for some reason it made me so happy that she won.
Gil:Me too. It was refreshing. Yeah. Because you got nominated. Everyone there is deserving if you got nominated on there to be. why not you also He goes, I don't know. I,
Eric:oh, here's really quickly. Yeah. Hungarian British Conductor, George Salty was the previous, Grammy holder record holder. Okay. Until she won for Best Dance Electronic album. That's,
Gil:I, that was a frustrating, I'm shocked she didn't go for the Rock. Yeah.
Eric:And then she was like hella late too. But maybe she was held up in traffic. I don't know.
Gil:Yeah. Cuz she won dance recording. She won r and b Song of the year. it's just like I said, it just fu that part of me is frustrated with artists who are actually from that category. Yeah. year in, year out I did everything to get nominated finally. And I'm gonna lose obviously to somebody who's just like the fuck. I get that. I think that's the part that I'm like really this. she still won all these other awards she should be happy
Eric:for. Yeah. And you know what? Good for her. I'm not gonna s I'm not going to say anything else. Good for her. Congratulations on your record. Grammy wins. nothing else to say about that.
Gil:I was happy for Lizzo. I
Eric:was happy for Lizzo too. She was really happy. Yeah.
Gil:Yeah. It was interesting not to watch Adele really win, cuz like when she went at the rolling of the deep Yeah. It was kinda like a full sweep through. But yeah, this was interesting. Yeah. like I said, at the same time, it's part of that this isn't a, the Kids' Choice Awards or some kind of voting Yeah. By the population or Oh, how many streams did you get? They're looking for. impact they're looking for. I don't know what other criteria they're looking for. And I will some years, yeah, the Grammys get it,
Eric:Yeah. And and are the Grammys problematic? Absolutely. we have proof of that now, but yeah. I do think Taylor Swift is probably gonna own them next year because Yeah. midnights was not in consideration for this year's Grammys.
Gil:No. So I, she didn't, she missed a cutoff,
Eric:so I think she will probably run it next year, just, honestly, I could be wrong, but I think you'll see a lot more of her. She did win for, all too well long version video,
Gil:Ms. Taylor Swift is sitting at 1212 Grammys already. That's a lot.
Eric:honestly, though, that's a lot of Grammys too. When you think of Madonna doesn't, I don't think Madonna has that many Grammys. I know Janet doesn't have that many Grammys. Yeah,
Gil:because Madonna's sitting at seven. Yeah. But also, thinking of the times in which our artists were there, it's like you were limited on which categories you were. Like you were
Eric:just saying, you were limited on your categories and women had to fight to even be seen or let alone heard in the music industry. So
Gil:y it was just, it was different. You are welcome is, we will say from our fan bases, Yes. That's what it is. So that's the reason for that. But yeah, that, that is interest. Seven for Madonna. I'm shocked cause I thought she would actually have 10 or so. I don't,
Eric:she didn't get her first Grammy though, until the Ray of Light album. Yeah. Which is crazy to me because, and it's a good album, but you look at like her contributions of a virgin, like a prayer erotica. Correct. All of those, like she's had massive impact prior to,
Gil:that's why it's shocking. Yeah. Yeah. But like I said, it was different times also. So they probably thought her music was gimmicky or is it worthy and back then you had to write, you had to write your songs or at least be mostly part of the contract contributions. now it could just like, huh. 2000 people to write it. We got this. Type away everyone
Eric:and see, like Janet only has five Grammys. Yep. And she has dance recording music, video, sh mu music video r and b song and music film. and she's had a huge impact on the music scene.
Gil:that's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah. Cuz for Rith Mix it's any, it's any Atlantic plus aics. It's four 50 nominations. Four total. Wow. One from Arithmetics, 3.4, her solo, that's it. Wow. Over what, a 40 year it, like I said, it was just, it was different times also different times. Yeah. Different world but I'll take it.
Eric:Yeah. So Gill, how have you grown this week? Yes.
Gil:to continue with health. I got my, I've been trying to, had to go sleep doctor, get that kind of going, so I'm continuing my, the health, try to slowly work on eating better, cutting. just, I, like I said, just how do I live to be 90 or 85? I'll take 85. so I got my results for that one for my sleep. I'm gonna, I do have sleep apnea, so that's gonna be something that I'll be, doing or going through the fittings and do the. now officially, I guess I have to go back in, what is it? They have to, I'm gonna sleep for a couple hours just to, so they can monitor, really see what is the correct way to do the thing. it doesn't, from what they're looking at, it's not weight, cuz I don't fall into their weight category of what caused it, I just have, I guess they're gonna figure out what else really is causing it. See if it's, curable down the road. But I still need to continue, obviously with the weight part of it as well, but I don't fall Yeah. Within their thing of, oh, it's because of this. because you're, you're overweight or basically, I'm not near that category, but just to continue what I'm doing for now. So that'll be my thing. So that's gonna be an adjustment eventually once I, get that, situated. So that's my, I was like, yay, I figured I probably had it, but it's okay. It's part of getting older, I did not sign up for this shit.
Eric:Hey, I, oh, but you not signing up for Right. Health related shit that happens to you. oh yeah. What did, how did I grow this week? How did
Gil:you grow? Yes.
Eric:besides getting excited watching porn? No, just kidding. sorry. not really, but, I took some advice from Miley Cyrus and I took myself dancing. And I held my own hand. Ooh. Yeah. So I wanted to go dancing. I've been wanting to go dancing for a minute. And okay. I took myself to a club and I put on my cute little bee hood, hoodie crop on, and had my black hat on and my black boots, and I had jeans on and I just went to what's supposed to be the gay club, one of the gay clubs out here in Albuquerque. Oh, okay. And, this $15 cover, which I thought was crazy for here, but things go up. and I was there for maybe a, I was there for about an hour and a half. I got there about around 1130 and I left around one o'clock before all the crazies got on the road, but yeah, I just went and danced for an hour and a half. I just, I walked through the club to see which dance floor I wanted to be on, and I found a location and I just danced for an hour and a half and didn't care that no one was there with me and just had fun in that whole regard. The only thing I, one thing I will say though, that I did not care for, and I actually messaged one of our former guests about this, it was not, it was, didn't feel like a gay bar too many straight away. There was way too many straight people there. No, there was a lot of straight guys there. Oh God. Like there, you would see like these dudes like huddled with their friends, talking, checking out all the girls. You would see a lot of, there was a lot of drunk girls dancing on top of each other to entice the guys. There were a lot of dudes there with their girl. There were a lot of dudes there with their girlfriends and I was like, Maybe, maybe it's good that it's moving into the direction of we can just have clubs where everyone can be there and everyone's happy, but I know it's still not truly there yet. So it was just really, it didn't feel as safe of a place as I'm used to the gay club feeling.
Gil:It's not safe space.
Eric:And so I was very sad about that.
Gil:I don't like that. it's a little nerve wracking.
Eric:And I was like, I don't know that I want to go out anytime soon now because I need that little safety net. I need that little safe space. And it just didn't feel that.
Gil:I totally hear you on that one. if there's a few, it's okay, but it's when it becomes too much and I don't want this to turn to people like, you guys can just reverse discriminating. it's not that it's literally our safe, we need this because if we were dancing at a straight club a pure straight club, like we would be beaten up. Could you imagine us? We're like, oh my God, that guy's hot. How time we've egged each other to go over there and say something. And if we say something, suddenly we get punched. Exactly. Like instead of a sassy sarcastic No, no, I no, I don't know. Not a fan. I've heard straight. How was some music outta curiosity? They
Eric:played hella du Lipa. I like du Lipa. Don't get me wrong, but like I do too. But I wanna say in the hour and a half I was there. They played probably eight to 10 Dua Lipa songs. Holy shit.
Gil:seriously, it's almost like every third song. It's ba
Eric:basically it was, and they, and then they played some hip hop, which was fine. They played a little bit of reggaeton, which was great. Oh. But they did play on Boss Bitch by Doja Cat. And I love that fucking song. And I have not heard that song in a club, so I was super excited about that. Ooh. Yeah, the music was okay. It was okay. I think there were prob, there was probably better music in other dance floors. but some of the other dance floors were so crowded that I, I'm still in a weird coty kind of space, I didn't want to be that close to too many people.
Gil:I don't blame you though. Sure. Because I like me and like I've told, to Chris, I'm itching to go back to a club. I just want to, dance my little heart out. be drunk and just have fun. But at the same time it's, I get it.
Eric:I say you should wait until I go out to the bay and we can go to Castro and we can go out clubbing in Castro.
Gil:Oh my God. Yes. I haven't been out there since the pandemic. It was 2019. but we can, we went in, it was like December Okay.
Eric:So yeah, we can discuss all that. We can discuss all that off the pod though, so we can make plans. Oh yeah. but yeah. anything else Gil?
Gil:no, that, that was it. That was our my how am I growing
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