April 28, 2021

Season 2, Episode 13 (Curtis Goodman)

Season 2, Episode 13 (Curtis Goodman)

We were lucky to have dance great and go-go phenom Curtis Goodman stop by and chat with us.  He was a blast to have on.

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Transcript

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Eric:

Hello and welcome to the Q lounge. I'm Eric and I'm Gil. And today we are joined by probably I would say the world's best go-go dancer. Curtis Goodman from Piranha in Las Vegas. How are you doing Curtis?

Curtis:

I am doing great. How are you guys? Hello everyone.

Gil:

Hello?

Eric:

I'm doing well. Thank you. So how's the COVID world treating you?

Curtis:

You know what? It's gone in stages for me. There was like a beginning and a middle and now this is like the end in the beginning. It was like, So boring. I was such a person that was like always on the go, like always booked. I always do everything flying here doing that, doing this. And then it just was like a forced stop, so I was just kinda what do I do? And I couldn't like, I couldn't go outside. I could, but not just not in the same capacity you can't like or travel, get this, can't do that. So it was really just getting comfortable with not doing anything. Which, I think all Americans are just, we're those kind of people that they teach us in our really young to be a go getter, do this, do that, do this, do that, do this, do that. And so you just become that just becomes normal for you. So when you're forced to not do anything blows your mind, this goes against everything you were taught. I just feel like I'm not successful because I'm not doing anything. I'm not good cause I'm not doing anything, and so once I got over that I really got the blessing part of it, which was meeting new friends. I was able to make some small groups of friends to hang out with or whatever that normally I wouldn't be able to hang out with because because I work in a nightclub. Yeah. So usually I sleep during the day cause I'm going to show two at planet Hollywood called Zombie Burlesque. so I get to that show and my call time is seven 30. So I usually sleep all day. So I get to the the hotel at seven 30, do my show. I'll get done there at 11, hits the club at 12. I'm done the club at four 30 in the morning, five in the morning. So when we get done, so by the time you come home and eat shower, take a chance to watch TV just unwind. It's already seven or eight. So I usually see from seven to three or eight to four. Okay. So I was, I had no social life. I had this amazing nightlife, all these cool friends and all this cool stuff, but I have no social life. So once, I got, used to being bored and it used to be making new sets of friends. I was able to have those relationships that I wasn't able to have before.

Eric:

Okay. Awesome. That's really good. That's a bright side.

Curtis:

And now I guess, we're just at the end of it. So now I'm just waiting and I'm like, come on. Is an opening up there. What's

Gil:

that is Vegas starting to open up a little bit more. Cause I'm from the Bay and we're pretty much slowly but surely

Curtis:

opening. Yeah. Our regular stuff. If you're just a regular person, like you were at the mall or you work at it. Dentist's office or something like that. Your life is pretty much normal. You're in the suburbs. You're going to Smith's or you're going to at Walmart, wherever you're going, like best buy they're. But your life is pretty much normal, but if you work on the strip in hospitality, it's yeah, it's overturned, which there are so many of us, it takes a lot of people to run a hotel, to run a show, to run a nightclub, to run all these things, so that's a big chunk of people that are just like. Out of it right now. So yeah, it's open, but we just went from, we were at 50% capacity, then it went down to 25 and now it just went back up, I believe last week to 35% capacity. So we're still not. Yeah, back to where we were. We're still playing this numbers game and just, just hoping for the best and hoping that, some of our businesses, cause we don't know what the owners are going through too. We were just hoping they can still survive through it. We hope that our positions are still there when we get back. Oh, yeah, it's just a waiting game. It feels like that last week of being grounded, like I just can't wait for it to be over so I can, let's see my friends again let me out of this room.

Eric:

Yeah, I think my state is we're at 25% capacity. Now,

Curtis:

where are you at?

Eric:

I'm in Albuquerque.

Curtis:

Yeah, New Mexico. I thought so. So where you at 50% and then went down to 25 or did you go straight down?

Eric:

We went, we were at 25 and then we were back to zero. And now we're at 25. Again, like we're in our state and as a whole is like a yellow moving into green. But our governor is like real strict with it. So as soon as I

Curtis:

feel so bad for all the Governors, I think the Trump administration just put all the blame on them. So they have to recover and no matter what they do. If they do it this way or that way you still have divided, like the election stuff was no matter what they do, they're going to have half the population just really upset. Yeah. That's a really tough position to be in. I really, I feel really bad.

Eric:

Oh yeah. I think so too. Luckily he's out of office.

Curtis:

Yeah. Does anybody, do you realize like how quiet the news has been like. I thought I was like, so on edge, like right before it was like, she was like news. And now it's kinda here's the news for today. I'm like, okay, I can handle that.

Eric:

And you're not like what

Gil:

tweets coming

Curtis:

in now, what tweets borate the public with all this. Information. I'm like we voted you in there so that you could take care of that. So I don't have to worry about these little idiot, chronic things in life. So it's like your mom coming to you? Not, yeah, we're going to be homeless. You're supposed to tell your kids that you're supposed to say, we're moving. That's supposed to say mom, lots of job, belly up. Dad's leave. And he cheated on somebody else and now we're moving and now we're homeless. You're supposed to protect the kids a little bit. I feel like the government's supposed to showing us from a little bit of that at least, gosh, I've never felt so much anxiety as I did.

Eric:

Yeah. It was crazy.

Gil:

Awful.

Curtis:

It felt so. I'm like, I don't need to know every free thing. But the bad guy, did we get him cool. Done. That's all.

Gil:

I

Curtis:

don't need the details.

Eric:

Yeah, that's for sure. So give us a little bit of history about yourself. What was it like for you to come out?

Curtis:

What I was so lucky? Not really lucky, because I got out in. I, my my, my little sister. Yeah. We laugh about it today, but it was just funny. Cause I had a whole stash of like gay porn in my room. And I went on a dance dance job I booked, a dance job in high school, I was able to leave and do a, like a. What's it called like a work study program. So I went in, I booked this job and the Louisiana, so I flew out there. It was able to take my homework with me and just send it into school and stuff like that. So I was gone for a month and because I was big brother, she was poking around my room. I was gone and she found this porno and then took it to my mother. And then my mom was just like, Oh no, And it was so funny because I came back and then she sat me down and she's we need to have a talk, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, Oh crap. And she was like, I want you to know that I'm not upset. I'm not upset at you or anything like that. And what's it called? What is it, what else she'd say I'm not upset. And she goes, I was just scared and I'm like scared of what? Cause I'm gay and she was like no. I was just scared because you were so far away, and we talked about the birds and the bees, but we never talked about the birds and the birds. She was like cry. And I was like, Oh my God, I had this to me, this mom in the whole fucking world. She was just sad because she just wanted to give me a sex, talk, a gay sex talker. That's what it was. And it was so funny too, because I just remember saying you didn't even know. Cause you know, some of us have these tendencies, and it's like obvious. And I was one of those kids that, and then they were calling me gay when I was like seven. Like seven, eight. It was just like, this motherfucker is gay. Yeah. I'm like, no, I'm not. No, I'm not. And then and I was like to get, and she was like you just told me you weren't. So I just assumed that you weren't. I just, I, whatever you said goes like what, that's how that's must be. How mom's stand by that like serial killer sons. You know what I mean? Cause it just they'll stand by you through anything. I'm sitting there with this huge switch in my walk and list and my thing, they just joined the dance team and the cheer team and all this stuff. And I'm saying I'm not gay. It's just okay.

Eric:

Yeah. I think that's pretty much true. I think that happened with me a lot too. Yeah.

Curtis:

They're like, whatever you want whatever you want to be. There with that lisp. The poor girl that I would have married if she would've just let me just pretend that I was straight. Oh my God. Yeah.

Eric:

Did you have any personal struggles about coming out or,

Curtis:

I don't think, I really think I had any presents. I was always so gay and just headstrong at such an early age that it was that's Curtis, like I was already like, I didn't flip. I didn't have to, I don't really have anything crazy going on. And I was loud, like it was like, people were just just stood back for me. What are they going to say? They don't want it. They want to have this huge confrontation or whatever. I did get in one light. Like little hate crime incident or whatever at this high school party once. I was drinking some someone's parents were out of town or this house party. We got into our liquor cabinet and was like 16 or 17. I was in the jacuzzi and I didn't know that if you drank and you were in the jacuzzi, like it would make you like really fucked up. I guess that happened to me and I was just like really fucked up, but I was like wild. And some people from another school came in and wherever that that faggot, one busted the beer bottle over my head and my face punched my nose, like I was just crazy. And then everyone from my school, I protected me like, cause my school was really cool with me. Like I said, I was on the cheerleading team, the dance team. I was pretty, obviously, even though they hadn't said anything and that was cool, as a cool, I was a cool motherfucker. I was friends with everybody. So they shielded me from that incident or whatever it took me upstairs. And then when I got home I don't want the time mom that I had snuck out. Cause it was this whole party that we weren't supposed to be at this people's parents. Weren't supposed to be home. Like we're supposed to know all that kind of stuff. So I just said that I dove into the pool. I like scratched my nose. I broke my nose on the top of the pool or something. And she was like, again, that mom, she was like, okay, That's cool. Oh no. Okay. Let's fix it. And so we need a doctor and all that kind of stuff. And then one of the girls was at the party. Her mom works with my mom. And she told her mom and then her mom told my mom at work. My mom came home wow. Okay. That was like, it's no big deal. It's no big deal, man. That was the only thing, but I've had so much positive stuff in my life since then. You know what I mean? I just look back at those stories and they really don't have that much weight as I thought they once did. Oh, that's

Eric:

awesome. That's really cool. Oh, what kind of dance is forms of dance? Do you do? I know I'm sure you'd

Curtis:

like jazz. Yeah, it was competition kid. Yeah. It was the big competition kid. I'm I'm from Southern California and I went to dance studio and competed in like a jazz ballet, hip hop, lyrical, all kinds of stuff. And then I like was potentially going to be in some companies, I started looking at that work and then. I was working with a couple of dancers at UC Irvine for a while. I could, I competed with UC Irvine for the jazz dance world, Congress and Costa Rica. Oh, wow. Awesome. Congratulations. So that was fun. And then I just decided that none of that was for me. So I went to New York and I was like, ready to dance, actually went to LA first, but it just seemed so cliquey. And It seemed almost like a like high school lunch period. You know what I mean? Like it was just like, it was just, wasn't a great vibe for me. It wasn't a good fit. So I figured I would go to New York and I'll just, obviously I wanted to go to New York anyway, ever since I was a little kid, you know how they have those cities or whatever you see when you're a little kid on TV, you live in your little, col-de-sac in your little town, but you just know one day you want to go there, whether it's New York or it's California, Hollywood, or Miami or wherever it is, you just have that place in New York. It was always that for me. So I decided to go there. And then realized that it was pretty cliquey too. Yeah. I ended up booking a cruise ship. I got a cruise ship offer to go around the world basically. And so I took it and I did that. Awesome.

Eric:

And then what brought you to Vegas or how did you make your way to Vegas?

Curtis:

You know why I did the cruise ship and it was so much fun because I was in New York at the time, but of course it was like, it was tight. Money was tight, everything was like really rough. But the training was in Hawaii was where I was born. So I was like score. Yeah. Then we had more training in Miami score again. Then they were going to fly us to Germany because it's ship, the ship was still being built. It's called dry dock or whatever. It was still being built in the shipyard there. So we were going to go there and finish our put in of the theater and all that kind of stuff. So we were in Jersey. I was like, that's an awesome trip. And then sail the ship all the way back across. I was like, look at that, like just dropped in my lap. It's cool. Bye. So I did that and I, so I did that whole tour. We sold back from Germany. We went to we started out in New York or Boston like we've crossed the Atlantic. It started out near New York or Boston and picked up like Regis and Kelly. They were under shift like a whole week. Oh, go see all that whole outside of the us down to Costa Rica. Then we went to through the ups, through the Panama canal, through LA San Diego, and then in the ship went to Hawaii. And then I got off in San Francisco and then I just so did the ship and I I just decided I wasn't done. Like I came home, I missed home, but I came home and then I just realized that I wasn't done, I still didn't want to be back home yet. I still wanted to be out there doing stuff. And so I went to Vegas.

Eric:

Awesome. And you've been there. You've been there for awhile, right? Yeah. I actually met you probably like 10 or 12 years ago. I don't know if

Curtis:

that. Yeah. Yeah. I've been here for, I got here in 2006. So I've been here for going on 21 years right now. Not 21 years. 16 years. Okay. No 15 years, 15. Yeah, 15. 1513. I can't add right now. I'm really good at dancing. You guys. I promise that's it. You've got to know your strengths in this world. You really got to know your strengths. I'm like not going to pretend I'm a mathematician It's so funny. The whole reason I came to as a rebel, I'm like, it was like a bad ballerina. Like I love black Swan and all that. I've always been like a cigarette smoker and just just shit, just teach me to combo. I'll do it. Let me go at it. It was just something about the adversity. I just really liked. And the guy from UC Irvine, the teacher or whatever, he was like, you need to stop smoking, and I'm like, Oh 22 or whatever. And I was like, I'm never going to stop smoking. And he was like then you need to just go to Vegas. Cause there you can just kick a leg and smoke a cigarette. And I was like, then that's where I'm going to go. Just like this bitchy little 22 year old dancer boy. No, one's going to tell me, this is my life. Now I'm 21 years old and I'm going to do what I'm going to do. So that's how I came to Vegas. And once I got here, of course it was like, Heaven, it was the furthest thing away from like my little cookie cutter,cul-de-sac playing living. I call them the robot people. Like I refuse to live in a cul-de-sac it's I can't do it. That's my brain won't let me do it because I just, they wake up at 7:00 AM and they get in the car and they go to work and they, they eat lunch with their friends in the break room and then they get back on the car and they come home at 5:00 PM and then they keep the kids in and I do the homework and they eat and they take shower and they go to bed. And they would wake up and they do it all over again. And like this track that I just like, I just, I don't know. There's something in me that I think just growing up so different artistic and just weird, because when you don't have that many people around you like that, you feel really weird and outcast. So I just wanted. I just, I couldn't be there. I couldn't be in that life.

Eric:

Your whole description was like a horror movie to me. I was like, no, I don't want to live there.

Curtis:

That's exactly. What if you were different, if you're a different person, that it is a horror movie, because you don't realize, I don't even realize what other people like me until I got into high school. And then when I got into high school, I only realized that there were saw four people that like me. I didn't realize there was a whole group of people on that. Cause I've been kept in this little bubble, this little suburban bubble or whatever, and it's very lonely and it's very isolating and it's very just there's a lot of you spend a lot of alone time and just thinking like what's wrong with me, and every teenager goes through that, but at least I think teenagers that fit in that kind of circle, they can bounce off each other, and they're all me too, buddy. Oh yeah, me too. Don't worry. It happens to the best of us. There was nobody like that for me, I'll hit it, bounce all the ideas off my own little head. Yeah. And just try to come to some resolution for my stuff. I think that's why, when it was time for me to come out, it was just so over for anyone to come out. Probably it's probably just so liberating because for the first time you enter this world where you go, there's other people like me. I think it's one of the reasons why I fell in love with the gay clubs so much though. The first one I went to the first drag, when I see that first whole environment was just like, Oh my God, there's people like me. It's like walking into heaven and seeing all your dead relatives be like, Oh, it does exist. Yeah. Oh, I do have a place. Oh, there is other this whole time. I thought I was weird and horrible and going to hell and just, worth being beat up, I was like, go ahead and beat me up. Cause I know that's what you're supposed to do because I'm gay and you're not. So I'll just take a hit cause you're supposed to, and I know that I know my role is to be beat up. So I'll just sit here and take it. I didn't know that this whole, you just leave, you get so down. You don't realize it was this whole world out there. And now this kid. Luckily, because of all the, all the progresses to me, they don't have that, there's 13 year old boys running around gay, everywhere. That's so awesome because you don't realize like how much of how much of a detriment that could be to your development when you're young, just to be so secluded like that, isolated and have those feelings and you, and just you really feel like you're less than because you are. You're not part of the majority. Yeah, I know you're like a small minority. You really are less than, so you just, just shut up and just try to make it in the world.

Eric:

Oh yeah. Definitely Gil and I are often talking on this podcast about representation and how things have changed a lot from when we were younger to where they are now. And things are more fluid and more open. You see a lot more in the media as far as representation of. Marginalized groups, not just LGBTQ, but different races and everything else.

Curtis:

Absolutely. And I'm so jealous. I'm so happy for them. And I love my life. I really do, but I'm so jealous. Cause that would have been amazing. I can't even imagine the stuff that I would have accomplished. If I would have had all of that support, like right from the beginning, I couldn't, I can't even match it. Yeah. Or maybe I wouldn't have done anything because I would have just felt normal. So I I might've just like. Being okay. With being in the cul-de-sac. So

Gil:

you ready to wear your Uggs in the summer and your PSL? Yes.

Curtis:

Some beers at that, on the edge of the truck bed, but it'd be exactly.

Gil:

What's your inspiration for dancing the

Curtis:

inspiration

Gil:

for like dancing or kind of that love for it. You know what,

Curtis:

honestly, like I was always one of those kids and I think this has a lot of stuff that a lot to do with it as well is that whole like isolation, not belonging and all that kind of stuff. I just really couldn't find my thing in school. I wasn't really good at school. I would do sports, but it wasn't really that great. I was athletic though, too, but I just, I. I just didn't like, I didn't love it, and for some reason when I found dance and it just clicked and it was just I dunno, it was like, I was like, this is it. You just know when you find the thing that you love, you just know, you're like, where's this been all my life, same thing, with the gay club, like the first time I saw it, I was like, where has this been all of my life and I've never let it out. I gripped since I just.

Eric:

I'm the same way. As far as like the club scene. I love going to the gay clubs. I don't go out as much as I used to and I have issues with I hate going out by myself because I'm just super insecure in my own self, but that's another story.

Curtis:

Yeah. It happens to the best of us.

Eric:

But although like when I'm out of, when I'm in a different city, like I'll totally go by myself. Cause I've gone to Piranha by myself numerous times and

Curtis:

love going out in different cities. Yeah. And,

Eric:

But yeah, I've yeah. Never felt more myself or more free than when I first started going to gay clubs. And then my friends used to always give me a hard time. Like you always want to go out cause I'd go out like four nights a week, five nights a week and I'd be like,

Curtis:

yeah, exactly. It's true. Yeah,

Gil:

it's liberating. You're with all your people, like you don't have to fake who you are put on that extra mask off. Ready to go. I

Curtis:

call it, I call it gay church. It's our church. Absolutely. You have to go out. You have to go give to me and go, what does it communion or whatever.

Eric:

I'm always taken by the Holy ghost.

Curtis:

for sure. Oh my God. That's what it is, so it's cool. That's why it's so good that they have all this representation out because now maybe there'll be a lot more gay people in and you'll see it you'll see already, but there are a lot more gay people like in just regular environments and comfortable in those environments. There's a lot of people that don't even want to come to the club and you know why? Because they don't need it, and that's awesome. They don't even need it. They don't even need to go somewhere to feel like there's other people like them. They don't even need because they're being represented. So the numbers are growing and they're actually feeling comfortable at the space that they are, that they don't have to migrate or leave or move to a big city, removes the here and moved to there just in order to feel some sense of like self fulfillment. Yeah,

Gil:

definitely. That's true. Have you seen anything new where you're Oh my God, this is cool. New show for the gays and stuff like that.

Curtis:

Oh yeah. That's why I love Vegas. I think totally like too, like with Along with it just need more excitement in my life. I'm also very much a gypsy, I have that gypsy mentality. I'm a dancer. I pay my phone bill by shaking my butt and wearing a pair of heels. That's how I, that's how I pay my rent. I very much a gypsy and I always say Las Vegas is the only place that gypsy can call home. And it's because you. Gypsy just travels and entertains and does stuff and just wants to, go and see everything and do all that. But here in Las Vegas, we get to stay here. And the city changes every weekend. The people come here. So like I opened my door and there was a whole brand new group of people out there. So it's been awesome too, because over the years, like I said, it's been like 15 years now. So now I. But that I don't know how many times I've opened that door every weekend for 15 years. I don't know how many people I've changed or met, or, just interacted with that. Like my soul was so fulfilled. That's awesome. Yeah, it's awesome. And every day it's every day there's for me new, every or something new, and that Vegas always wants to stay on top of stuff too. So there was blowing up a hotel and building a new one, just when you thought you saw everything, something else you're like, Oh, I gotta go see that Vegas. It never ever gets doll.

Eric:

I can see that Vegas is like my favorite place. People often make fun of me. Cause I'm like, to me, Vegas is very peaceful.

Curtis:

Oh yeah. That's my peace for sure.

Eric:

I feel super calm and like chill and just happy when I'm in Vegas and be like, Oh, how can you be so happy with all that stuff going around? I was like, it keeps me occupied. I come to learn also that it keeps me from being in my head too much and stuff like that. But I'm like never more calm than I am when I'm in Vegas. Like I'm just so happy. Every time I'm in Vegas. It's awesome. Yeah. It's like my happy place. I often think I should just move to Vegas and I have friends. I have friends that are like, no, you wouldn't like it. It's not that it's not what you think it is when you're visiting. And then other friends are like, Oh, it's not that. But if I want it to be that, I just go right down the street.

Curtis:

Yeah. Yeah. I think too in life if you'd want to, if you want to do some of that, I want to move to New York. I want you in New York and I wanted to do it. I did it. And I didn't like it. And so I left. It's so crazy. You don't have to like, always just make these, that's why younger people have the world with their hands, because they just feel able to they'll have so much invested that they can just bounce. And so they get to experience more because once you get locked in, sometimes you track yourself and you feel like you can't do anything else. But there's always a way there's always the option. And if you don't like something that you could always just undo it. Yeah, that's

Gil:

true. That's good advice. Yeah, because remember Eric was up in Seattle for three years and I was like the longest three years of my life. I would never go back. Oh, living, living lights. It's a beautiful city. Like I said, I used to visit. I'm like, Oh my God, it's so gorgeous. Moving there. And living day to day.

Curtis:

I feel that, Oh Lord, I gotta go back visit. I visit every year in August. And I say that every time I'm there too, I say, so I saw, Oh, I could live here. But then once I started thinking about it, And I visited a couple of other times too. And I was like, it's gray. And they were like, this is usually how it is. And I was like, this is how it is. Like all the time. Like no, all the time. Yeah. You,

Gil:

you go to that 10th consecutive month of gray. Granted, I grew up in the Bay, so I'm used to fog, but we knew what left. At some point we saw this out there. It's I'm like 10 months in. I'm like shaking. I'm like, what the hell is this? Yeah,

Curtis:

it's very gray. I know this in August when I go, it's so beautiful outside and because it's so gray and rainy all year, it's so green and the flowers are full bloom. It looks like just a postcard. It's just, it's so awesome. Pike Place market is just banging. It's just such a tease because I know it's not showed up. Every time I go, even though I know it's not like that. And I go in August and I just like, Oh, it's so beautiful here. I could totally live here. And then I have to remind myself here to see kids you're coming every August. That's good. That's yeah,

Gil:

it's a good trip.

Eric:

I went in November and it was just pretty much gray.

Curtis:

Was it Yeah. Yeah. Going August best time to go to Seattle

Eric:

August. I'll make that note. So what is it like being a go-go dancer or a dancer in Vegas?

Curtis:

Ooh, it's wild. It's so funny. Cause it's and this is not to set anybody aside or anything like that or discount anybody else, but I feel like it's so different for me because I've been here for so long, like I really I feel almost like a drag queen now. I don't even feel like people like tip me because I'm like sexy. I feel like they just tip me cause they're like, Oh, that's Curtis, our friendly neighborhood Gogo. We know him, you know how you have those people. Who've been in the community for so long. Respect them and you love them. You just say, always say hi to them and stuff like that. And it's so funny. Cause that's what I always wanted to be. Like I told you when I first walked into that club for the first time and I was telling my first drag queen, I was like, Oh my God, there's people like me, like that sense of belonging and feeling. I always try to give that to other people too. I I didn't come in there cause I was looking for a quick buck. I came in there, I didn't come there because I was just like, Oh, I'm so sexy. That's not why I came in there because the feeling that I had when I first walked into her club was just like, so overwhelmingly accepted and positive and loving that. I just always wanted to be a person that could give that back as well. And so it's, so for me, it's different purpose. It's a different, I want to be fierce. Yes. I want, I still want people to be like, wow, that's amazing. But at the root of it all I want to be one of the good ones.

Eric:

All of that.

Gil:

Yeah.

Curtis:

Thank you, Bubba

Eric:

fierce. You're one of the good ones. Like I said, I wasn't lying in the intro and I said you were like probably the best go-go dancer though.

Curtis:

Ah, yeah. So important to just be one of the ones that like, I want to do it for the good reason, over a good reason to, I've had over the years, several people like one instance in particular, like a mom came up to me one time. She was out for the bachelorette party with their friends. And she was like, they're all dancing and being crazy. And she's just like staring at me. And I was like just throw it. The straight girl was crazy. You know what I mean? Like just give me one of those eyes, like what's going to happen. And I knew that she was going to like, say something. And I just didn't pay attention. And I got off the box and went on break. And as I walked into the dressing room, she stops me like, Oh, here we go. And she's just like looking at me and she's Hey, can I just tell you something? And I was like, what? And she starts to bawl, like to start to cry. I start to get water and some of that, and she goes, I just want to let you know that I think that you are amazing and the way that you're up there, just living your life so free and so gay. And I cared about what anybody thinks and just being yourself and just being so spectacular at it, just like just owning it all. I just think it's just so amazing and I have a little son. And he's at home and he's eight or nine, 10, whatever. I forget how old that was. He was preteen. And she was like, and I think he's going to be gay. She's like my biggest wish is that one day, if he does, we get I don't care if he's gay, but I just want him to feel as comfortable in his skin as you do up on that box to showcase like for the world to see and she's crying. And she's and I just I re I just like, why I want you to know that what you're doing is like really special. And so I started crying and I was just like I think it was one of those moments where I was like, they get it. Yeah. I realized that Oh, they get it. There's a lot of booty shaking around all this that you get lost in it, but But it's not about that. It's about, I'm here, I'm queer get used to it. Yes. And owning all of that. And, and I don't have to take steroids to get big muscles and I don't have to put on a baseball hat. It looks straight and I don't have to pretend that I'm somebody I'm not in order to be up here and be successful. And that's I always wanted it to be. And the fact that she said that to me, like really made me go, like not only. It was always my own inner dialogue, but to know that someone else had got it. Yeah. That was the moment that I was, I, it was just so special to me. It was. And that's why I say, like, when I say what's it like to be a Gogo in Las Vegas, I really see myself as a different kind of. Go. I really just not out there, just shaking it time to turn and make tips, like it, it meant so much. The club meant so much to, I'm a club kid. I'm a club kid for life, it meant so much to me when I found it that I want to make sure that I can give that to other people too. That's amazing.

Eric:

That's beautiful.

Curtis:

I love that. It was awesome. It was awesome. And it's really easy to just like, shut that kind of stuff away and be like, no, it was just about being sexy and masculine and this and that, but underneath that, all there needs to be some kind of love in some kind of truth. Otherwise we wouldn't be gravitated towards it so much, yeah. No,

Eric:

that's true. Wow. I love that story. So being in the profession you're in and everything else and being in Vegas, you probably get to see the best and worst of people. And the gay community at large. Do you have any stories

Curtis:

yeah I this is all I like, I'm a really happy positive person too. That's I've always been that way. I think that's a bit, a lot of what has helped me to Keep going, even when things weren't going my way or when negative things happen to me. I just I always say that everybody is like on a different chapter. I don't like to say that people have the best and the worst or there's I don't, I really don't believe in good and bad, because who made the rules? We're all just, we're all just born just on the planet and there's no, there really are no rules. The only roles that we have are the ones that are made by the whatever community that we're in. And this community's rules are going to be different than that community's rules. And that community rules is gonna be different and that community's rules. And that community rules really given that. So how can we judge each other when everybody has these different rules of what's good and bad in that? You know what I mean? So I really try to live that way and just try to think, That does people are at different and chapters in their life. I'm sure there's points in my life where I wasn't the best person that I could have been or whatever, but that doesn't mean that I'm not going to be a good person later. Oftentimes you'll see older older people and I was going to say gay man, but honestly, it's just society as a whole, you'll see like older population or whatever, condemn the younger population for not thinking the way that they think, but they're at a totally different chapter. Yeah. They're, they're still learning. It's if you were a senior in high school and you're going to go make fun of a kindergartner because he can't do his ABCs, he's not there yet. So I try to use that same method of thinking when we're talking about people. And sometimes even if you're 33 and someone else is 33, that doesn't mean that they learned all the lessons that you've learned. some people. You have some people like they're born in one town, they go to school in that town, they get a job in that town. They get married, they have kids, they have grandkids and they die in that town and they never see anything else.

Gil:

That's terrifying.

Curtis:

Sorry. But it's true. And it happens a lot or they, or just even just make it statewide. There's some people that have never left their state. So if they've never left their state and they'd never seen anything out here, and in the world there, your brain has not even it's not even able to understand the things that you can understand, so I really try not to judge everything, and tell people in the best words. So I'll just be like, Ooh, Ooh, if they're gonna, they're gonna learn from that or, cause it's, it is, I've done stuff too, and I'm like, Oh, I learned not to do that again. And I really would have been sad if someone to judge me for it because I didn't know, I just, I didn't know. Some. Yeah, I didn't see the best, the worst in people, but I think it's, and it's of course that's a great mentality to have when you're working in the club, because basically, I don't even think people in the club are bad. People, even people that get drunk and fight and all that kind of stuff, they're just little kids, but the liquor just makes people just so little kids even with the come up smack my butt pull on my thing, it's almost as if it's like a 12 year old boy being like pulling a ponytail. It's look what I did. And you're like, dude, it's like lifeguarding, like our babysitting. And I was like, Oh my God. So because of that mentality, it makes it really easier to do my job because that's really what it is, when they get in fights, it's just because this one is like Inebriated acting 12 and this one's not going in 12. And then they get basically in this 12 year old bickering argument fights, that kind of just exploded to other stuff, but it's really not. It's really not them being bad people. They're just very juvenile when they get intoxicated

Gil:

in there.

Curtis:

Yeah. That's moving too. And we've all been there. Yeah. I've done some things. I wish I could take that. And I know that and I have self-reflection in those situations. So when I see someone that, not, being their best, I don't judge them. I just go, Oh I, and I also don't, sometimes I don't get involved either because I'm not, I don't want to interrupt their lesson, how are they going to learn that, that, that's not okay. Sometimes people need to get kicked out in order to learn. That's okay. Sometimes people need to get their ass beat to learn. It's not okay. That's the lesson. Yeah. I'm not here to do any of that. I'm just here to, like I said, just, be a force of light on the box and let people, See that it's really cool to be your true, authentic self, no matter what, that's, what I'm here for. And so I just do that job and that's my only focus. Absolutely.

Eric:

That's wonderful. That's beautiful. I'm going to probably say that phrase.

Gil:

trademark Curtis.

Curtis:

Yeah. It honestly just goes back to the stuff when like when you're, when you are a child, and you're like, Oh, did this and did this. And the first thing that adults turns around and tells you to do is you focus on you. No, you focus on you because you don't know why this is going on or why that is that you didn't know. You're just, you're not going to get anywhere from trying to place the blame or trying to make someone up or to demean someone else. You're not going to get anywhere. You just focus on you cause they're going to get there. Or they're going to learn their lesson somehow or some way, but it doesn't necessarily have to be you all the time. You're not the judge, the jury that, that's. That's not me. So I try to stay away from that. Just focus on me and try to be a good person where I can be

Eric:

So you've performed in many clubs in cities and States and countries and all that stuff. What are some of your favorite places, some of your favorite clubs that you've been in and some of your favorite cities?

Curtis:

This is bounced all around the U S and Canada. Now we're not super international, but I have that Canada. I remember the first time I actually danced in Canada. You, I was like, you guys, I'm an international Gogo. I was so excited. Like I can put it out there now I can say it. And I never went anywhere else, but I did go to Canada. So I was officially international. My favorites I'd say Seattle. Absolutely 100%. There's a club there called neighbors that I love so much. And I'll tell you why, because I've been in this business a long time and as a, now an older gay man, or a more mature gay matured now I have appreciation and respect for gay establishments that have been around for a really long time. Like Stonewall is just because it's there, not just what happened, but the fact that it's still standing is really important to me, and neighbors is one of those clubs in Seattle that you could feel the gay in the walls. Yeah. Some guy was like making out, like in the eighties or seventies or whatever it was. And you could just see their gay ghost somewhere, like in the thing, and it just adds to that, we're not alone. There were people here before us, there were gay people here before us. It just adds to all of that and makes you feel included and, Yeah. Yeah. So again, absolutely neighbors. Yeah. I love that club. I love that club so much. I do a charity event there every, like every August for the Seattle. And that's another thing too. They're so community oriented. Yeah. They, I do a charity event for their Seattle, for the counseling services, Seattle council service for the gay youth. Amazing amazing community spirit Kona, my bar and Kona on the big Island, Hawaii amazing bar. Everybody's me like San Diego, but as an Island, So it's really cool. And so my really good friends out there are Rocco Curtis. They own that bar and they're the same way. Like when you go there, like it's It's just so gay. And it's that it's the gay that I remember it's that gay, that love that feeling of family Hawaii already has a tradition of, Ohana, like family and all that kind of stuff. And they really bring that to like their gay prides and stuff like that too. So there, whenever they have new celebration the whole community really does come out and it's just it's just a great celebration. I feel like some of the. The bigger cities, a lot of the the clubs have, become involved in a lot of commercialism part of it, so they become a little and that's just that's to be expected, it's a business and I understand that those suit clubs, like they really give you that That we family like that whole vibe, like you go there and you're like, I'm going to pride you guys, and you come back and you feel the way the kids today feel about EDC. That's how you feel when you go to these like clubs and these prides. Cause that's, it's just so much love and so much just really spectacular, awesome stuff. So I'd say that neighbor's in Seattle and then Kona. What else did it work? Oh, I do world pride in New York city. That was amazing. That's awesome. Yeah, that was the world pride. That was insane. And that wasn't as much, I didn't feel as commercialized either because it was just so many people bananas. It was bananas. I'd ask one of the circuit parties there and it was just, I forget how many people there, I want to say it was like, it was either eight to 10,000 people in front of the stage that we were dancing. Yeah. And it was just you could, you could feel it, you could just feel the energy or something when, and that's like that with any group comes together, it could be a black church coming together, but like every one of them from the United States gets together. Could you imagine Oh, you would feel the Holy ghost for sure. Or if you have all the Islanders get together and do the haka or something, but it was like everyone, like every Islander there was like when it was all that many gay people at one space, the energy was just insane. So I would have to definitely say that was at the job at the center, a real pride New York city.

Gil:

Clubs. I don't know.

Curtis:

I'd really like to go to Denver to Tracks, so I haven't been to Tracks. I'd really liked to go there. Yeah. We had a group go from our club. I wasn't there. I had to stay, I just stay here. But so I re I would really like to check that one out. I'd say that's three clubs ended event, but that's enough neighbors in Seattle. Check it out. It's amazing. My bar in Kona, if you ever get a chance to go to Hawaii, go to the big Island. Okay way. It's my favorite Island on the big Island, because that Island is amazing. It's basically San Diego meets Hawaii and it's gorgeous. Oahu I love Oahu. I was born in Oahu, castle Memorial. Like I was born there. Like I have love for the Island, but it kinda reminds me of Like LA in the, in the eighties or the nineties, or my mom used to watch that show like 21 jump street or something like back in the day. And it reminds me of that. So I dunno, whenever I'm there just feels I don't know, it feels really weird, but but Kona is.

Eric:

So you mentioned tracks as a place that you would like to go. Any other places you would like to

Curtis:

go? Ooh, all of them. Oh, all of them. I said, this is my life. I can't get enough of that. I really can't. And I find something new and special with every place. And I actually really appreciate each with each club that I go to in each city that I go to I take a piece, I absorb it. I've always been. Curious and adventurous about gay culture and the gay community and how everything works. And I love seeing, they all have stories, they all have, that's probably, that's why Trixie Mattel just bought the, or just became owner of the one in Milwaukee or whatever. Or co-owner or whatever it was probably because she has such a connection to it. We, we really have connections to these things. They're very special places. Like I told you, they're called they're gay churches. Yeah. So honestly, like I would love to see every single gay club there is I'd like for Krave to come back, I don't think it will. I don't think it will, but I'm definitely thankful for that moment in time. Yeah.

Eric:

Got kicked off the dance floor at Krave. Oh. No security came and told me that I wasn't allowed to dance that way on the dance floor. How are you dancing? That was with a then friend of mine. And I think I was like, like rolling around and like slithering between his legs and up his leg and like wrapping myself around him

Curtis:

on the floor. Yeah. They were like, you're gonna knock somebody over to you guys. And they were like, Oh

Eric:

yeah, it wasn't really that many people there. But yeah, they came and told me and I was like, really, you're going to kick me off of the dance floor at a gay club, a club in Vegas and a gay club in Vegas. So I actually wear that kind of as a badge of honor, like I was that provocative.

Gil:

The Holy ghost got into Eric that

Curtis:

night, the Holy ghost, the Holy gay ghosts. It was like, Hey, I don't know. I, this security is ah, that's nothing to was. I've been so lucky to have that club because we ran that club. Like it was a shell. It wasn't like, it wasn't like a bar in the, in a Backwoods somewhere where you can do all this kind of like crazy shady stuff. And I'm sure it's stuff went down, but that's like any nightclub, but it just wasn't as prevalent there because it's Vegas and people just, they're really serious and people get really drunk. People get, really crazy. There's a lot of money involved. They don't want to mess around with anything. So it was really nice to learn. A lot of that The stuff about the gay, club whatever in such a professional environment, my security was on me all the time. I'd be like this guy over here, they're like they didn't take care of us. Our go-gos, we only have eight. We only have eight or nine Go-Go's and it was like a dream team and I like, people want it to be a part of that and our bikes aren't sponsored for, and so that just drove the, the desire, even more people just wanted it even more than they want to either be one or know one. Whatever. So he was a very smart man, like that Kelly Murphy. He ended up like messing stuff up in the end, but as far as I'm concerned, he's pretty smart guy.

Eric:

And that was like the first gay club on the strip. Wasn't it?

Curtis:

Yeah. Yeah. That was the first gay club, as far as I know, unless there was something crazy in the seventies that went on that I didn't know about.

Eric:

Let's see. Do you have a favorite diva, Gil,

Gil:

likes to ask this question? I always like to

Curtis:

know a favorite diva. Yes.

Gil:

Music diva.

Curtis:

He kinda just kinda they're like the saints, at church, you just gotta respect them all. Everybody does have their one or whatever, and mine's definitely Britney, it'll always beBritney. Yeah. That's what I was saying for that. Yeah. And I it's Britney bitch, and I tell people this fits you without trying to be like so defensive over and all this kind of other stuff, because people do, age, and then they act different or whatever. But I relate it to that that feeling that you have about like your mom or your mom, doesn't do all the things that she used to do for you. Yeah. I More or less, she's change your diaper. And then if you got your clothes and do this and help you to do that, so wipe your nose or do that sometimes like even my mom, sometimes these not even the same as it was getting all of them. She's just tired probably. But I don't love her for that. I love my mom because of what she did for me, and that bitch got Britney got me through high school. Yeah. I love her for what she did for me. She gave me so much that I'll ever do. And at the time my mom doesn't have to do anything else for me, for the rest of her life. I'm fine. The way I am, because she gave me all the tools like, she gave me all the tools to be a strong man's. I have this good heart to go into the world and, and be successful and do all kinds of stuff. And Britney did a same damn thing. Yeah, Britney did the same exact fucking thing. So she doesn't have to, she doesn't owe me anything. She doesn't have to do anything else because I'll be forever grateful for what she did for me. Yeah. So it's definitely her.

Eric:

Did you see that Framing Britney? What's that? Did you see the Framing Britney documentary?

Curtis:

I did. And it's so funny too, because I was always one of those people that like, when people were like, Oh, she's so crazy. I was like, you guys, we did this. Yes, we're doing that. We're doing this to her. I couldn't even imagine like how paranoid I would be if I was like in a urinal and someone like put a camera in there and clicked it, and you're like in your like 21. Like your life has been going like that and going like that and going back, it's only going to take a certain amount of time before you become schizophrenia or before something happens to you, know just people are just like, You'd be like, Oh my God, there's people chasing me. Girl, there really are people. Yeah, for sure. She grew up in front of us and your trash and your everything. You're gonna go insane. You're gonna, you're gonna have not even insane, but like a breakdown I've seen single moms breakdown for less than that. Cause they just had enough, This man is treating me like this, and I just had a breakdown and I just did it, could you imagine that the whole world was on your back above? I would flip out too. So yeah, I really, I just have so much respect for, and the fact that she's even still standing I'm just grateful for it because there's been so many opportunities where she'd been of just Something bad could have happened. And it's not even her fault. All she want to do is sing and dance since the age of I just want to be a singer and a dancer. I think it's so cool. It's her little girl dream. And just to say, it's her fault for becoming famous. It's her fault. Just a little girl that wants to sing and dance. It's so crazy as a society, how we can Just put, like I said, put our rules either are good or bad. This is good. This is bad. This is wrong. This is right. This is bad. Or this is evil. This is good. Like we we can't keep doing that because like I said, we all grew up in different communities. The, my rules are different than your rules and his rules. His rules are different than his rules. And this religion is different than that religion. That religion is. We can't try to make a gold standard when everybody's growing up with all these different wrongs and rights. So I love that girl. I just wish her the best. I'm always

Eric:

rooting for Britney. I have

Curtis:

a politics.

Eric:

Have you been able to, have you met her yet or did you get to see her in Vegas?

Curtis:

No, I haven't met her. I've had friends of like dance with her and then what's it called? And she came to Piranha But I wasn't there that night. I know I found out I was,dancing Krave the night she was at Piranha and I was like, shit. Cause I've always like I was going back and forth between the two clubs, it was just so funny because like I was stake and they're like, and I'm like, Oh shit. Yeah. I want to get off early, don't. Cause I never did, but what's it called? So I I got off work and I rushed over it's fast. as I could, but she was already gone. I didn't get to see her, but I had to get to see Naomi Campbell. Like I was right next to her. Like she walked right by me and it was just like, I was like gazelle walking in slow motion. It was still crazy.

Eric:

That woman is like on another level fierce,

Curtis:

like it's. And it's when I was saying it's so peculiar because it's when like you have a family member or someone that you now you're like, Ooh girl, you going to be them? Supermodel, you can be a model, but then a real one walks by you and you go Oh, okay. Now I know, I feel sorry. All those girls that I was like, girl, you could be supermodel. I was, I didn't know what I was talking about because a real one walked by me and I was like, Oh, that's. Oh, yeah.

Gil:

Super

Curtis:

bottle target lawless. And it's just like her even just for pedestrian walk. Like you can just feel there, like it's energy waves just come off of her. It's crazy. Oh, awesome. Yes, Janet. I got to see Janet.

Eric:

Oh my God. Janet. That's that's my ultimate favorite.

Curtis:

Her smile, like sends like shivers through your body. Like her little cheeks or her little Apple cheeks or whatever. And it's so infectious. Like I swear, like God put like happiness in her smile whenever she smiles like a bean just goes out and shoots through your body. It's ridiculous. How, like how beautiful or how Yeah. Like just not happy and contagious. Her smile is it's just it's uncanny. I've never seen anything like that. Yeah.

Gil:

Eric's a mild fan of

Curtis:

hers. I believe. Low key, you

Gil:

know, once a couple albums, he likes the verbiage. Yeah.

Curtis:

I was on my main stage and she was like watching me, like dance on the stage or whatever. And then The club owners, don't the co-owners, but one of the managers was like, Hey, do you want to come upstairs? And then meet Janet or whatever? And I was like, no, I said, no. Cause I was just like, I would be too nervous. You know what I mean? Like she just she did too much to me. Like I had aye. Aye. I. When little kids when you're a little kid, you start the video store and parents would take you to the video store and you'd rent videos. And he was going to pick out like your video for blockbuster or whatever it was. So most of my friends were like picking out like, I don't know care bears or whatever it was. And I always picked out that rhythm nation video where she's their picture of her is like that with a squiggle. And I picked up every single time. Like we would go to the movie and they'd be like, what movie do you want? I was like this one from the age of nine to 12, this one, every time we went to the movie store, like I never got anything new, whatever that Spider-Man Superman or whatever it was, I would just always get that video. And I would just watch it like. Just, it was my favorite in the whole world. Like I just I don't know. My heart was like, even just the thought of getting to meet her. My heart was beating so fast. Like I just, I didn't want to get up there. I don't know. I want to know what I thought. I thought, like I was going to see her and then like my legs were going to fall off. That's how that's how I fell. I was like, Oh my God. Or I'm just going to I dunno, just. Evaporate. I didn't know what was going to happen, even thinking about it. Now I looked at going to handle meeting her. I just really don't think I could do that. I didn't want to, and I didn't want to say anything stupid or say the wrong thing or just no, it's okay. So I just sat there for half an hour on my break being like, Oh my God, I could totally be upstairs meeting Janet right now. Absolutely refusing not to.

Gil:

Oh,

Eric:

my heart's like joyous and like skipped a beat at the same time.

Curtis:

Oh my God. It gets you hot. And just get the diva thing, these people that, they do so much for you. Yeah. Yeah. They don't have to, and even in the end, like Whitney didn't even own me, anything that girl gave me so much, like all the disrespect of the whole, like the, everybody coming after all these people. And it's so funny. Cause it's the whole like The people in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones thing. It's we always forget that. We forget that. And as they age, just as a community, as a whole, not even just a gay community, this is as a world community. We totally forget that. Yeah,

Eric:

absolutely. If you could give your younger, you any advice, what would it be? Oh,

Curtis:

I hate a lot. I don't hate this one, but it's the one that I was actually told and I just didn't listen. And so I'm going to say it, and if anybody's listening to this no that I was the kid that I was like, okay, whatever. And I didn't listen and I'm saying it's gonna sound so trite, but it saved your money. Save your money. If I started saving my money when I was 18 years old, like my accountant, like what's to me, like I'm crazy all the time she does my tax returns and I'll be like, so you know how much I owe this year? So I did it. And she goes, Curtis, like with this money that you've been making, like you can, I know I can own a house, been on three houses by now. But I'm having a lot of fun. I really, I didn't really care before because I'm very I always was willing to people's. I was like, as soon as I, as soon as I own a house, I'm gonna want to move. For that, this, that commitment thing. I don't know. Like as soon as I send the paperwork, I'm like, ah, I wouldn't change it. But it was just so crazy, especially after the pandemic Oh, it's three houses would have been nice. Yeah. So I'm going to start right now at this age. But yeah, it's save your money and then also save the heart. I was one of those people that Like I said, my mom was scared about the whole talking about the birds and the birds. And I grew up in the eighties where like the AIDS was discussed like a lot because it, or cause it had just happened, or it was still happening. I just had this weird fear of getting bruises on my body because you would watch those eighties movies where like the guy was like go to bed and then he would wake up and you have purple bruise. I'm like, now you have AIDS. Yeah. Cause they didn't, they made movies back then they didn't show the progression of anything. So as a 12 year old boy, all I saw was he has a purple bruise and now he has AIDS and was dead. So I was doing like sports and stuff like that. And I would get a bruise on my leg and I'm like, Oh no, nobody could see this bruise on my leg. Oh no. Oh no. Like I started freaking out because of the 12 year old boy, I wasn't able to process that, and so my mom also represented that she was like, scared. Are there any, we didn't talk about the birds and the birds. Me coming out. I really just really didn't want to disappoint her. And in that, I didn't want to go out there and get sick. Yeah. I felt if I did. Then I would disappoint her and that would make it not okay for me to be gay, but it would be okay for me to be gay if I was to go be gay and I didn't get sick. And so that was like always in my mind. So I was like, it costs me a lot of a lot of relationships because I was really prudish. I wasn't one of the ones that kind of just jumped in. And it, and it made. It made me stay with people sometimes that I didn't need to be with only because of the security of being with that one partner. Cause I was afraid to go out there and have to try to find another partner. And I could possibly expose myself again. I was like, I'm safe for this husband. I'm safe with this guy and I don't want it. And I don't want to, I don't want to go back into the dating pool, even though he treats me bad. Or even though I know that this is not working, I'm still gonna stay with him because if I stay with him, then at least I know I'm safe. It wasn't the only reason, but it was definitely like a contributing factor or contributing reason. I definitely say save your heart. You don't have to run out and get married right away. You don't have to go find a sugar daddy or anything like that. When you're like turn 18, 19 years old, go out there and just, be a normal person. And hopefully, like you said, with this representation stuff like this, these kids do feel like they're normal people and hopefully they do feel like they can just do normal thing. If they want to stay in their hometown, they can stay in their hometown. If they, want to go travel the world, they can travel the world without thinking. They always have to find or connect with these gay people or connect to these gay groups or connect to these these gay lifestyles in order to feel like they belong, yeah. Saved your heart. Take your time. And don't read, don't really like rush into anything I was at, I would say I'm a serial monogamous, but I went from a like a six and a half year, or like a six year into a seven and a half year into a six year relationship, which basically took care of all of my twenties into my mid thirties. No, God I, that's three folks. It was just and then I looked back at the end and I was like, Whoa. I was like, Oh, I missed out on a lot. Huh? Cause I had just put myself away, so I would definitely say save your heart. And so you're ready to take your time. Don't rush into anything. Enjoy, enjoy, play safe, but enjoy your youth and have fun and meet people, travel, go do stuff. And then settle down later. Don't worry about selling down so soon. Oh, that's

Eric:

good. I like that. And you recently started an only fans page, right?

Curtis:

You sure did. Yeah, basically starting my My wild streak now here in those relationships. So now I'm like, all right, now I get to have a little bit of fun and I'm having a blast. I'm discovering so much about myself. I'm actually learning, I'm learning all this stuff. I probably would say what's supposed to be learning about myself in my early twenties, but I was always partnered up. So I never really got to go out and experiment and do what is the important stuff, it's important stuff. But I think my relationships that I was and what have you been a lot better? If I knew this stuff about myself before I had gotten into them. Okay, so it's fun. Yeah. I get to get out there and make my only fans. And it's very liberating. It's very, there was that little door where the pandemic was so bad. If you did start an only fans, no one was going to fault you for it. So I just saw that opportunity to be like, whoop, it's the rest of the door. And now it's up and running. It's good. I have 1300 followers,

Gil:

which is pretty cool.

Curtis:

Yeah, that's a great page. Follow it. I was wanting to do some stuff this weekend, but I ended up going to a party is forgot about it. I've been actually hooked up with two with this amazing director. She used to be worked for Falcon, Mr. Pam. Oh, yeah. So now we became really good friends over the quarantine. I did some, a photo series for her for an artistic product that she was doing. And and we just hit it off and it's so cool to pick her brain, and I'm an artist, she's an artist. She loves to pick my brain and we just laugh and have so much fun together. So we've have a really cool relationship now. So expect a lot more stuff on the adult end, probably on my only fans.

Eric:

She's like an

Curtis:

icon. Yeah, she's amazing. She's an amazing woman. She's one of those, she's one of those a woman in the gay man's life. That's just such a positive influence, Kristine W was like that too. You know what I mean? Just this big, like just gay beacon of light. Happy cause we're always searching for those. That's why we love those dance divas. We love them because they just so much life and so much a reason to be happy and love and laugh and stuff like that. And Mr. Pam's the exact same way. Just this great laugh. Great smile. Great personality. Just I'm so happy that we're friends and that we're working on this new project together. Oh, awesome. Congratulations. That's great. Yeah. My only fans is C good man. 2001.

Eric:

Okay. And we'll put a link

Curtis:

on the show notes as well, for sure. Oh yeah. All my social media is all streamlined too. So it's all at C Goodman. 2001.

Eric:

Okay. Yeah. And if you have any other links you want me to put on just if you want to send them to me.

Curtis:

Yeah. It's just that Lincoln and all the rest of them have that, the asks or whatever, so

Eric:

nice. Perfect. Okay. Awesome.

Curtis:

That was smart. I linked it all up.

Eric:

You're thinking.

Curtis:

My friend Ray Lee, Trey actually helped me out with that because I didn't know how to work Twitter. I started only friends. She was like, you need to have a Twitter. I'm like, yeah. So she helped me. And then she was like, any need to do this. You need to change this, that, all of your tags need to be the same. I was like, Oh my God, thank so much, I have some great friends. That's

Eric:

awesome. What other types of things do you have coming out in the future?

Curtis:

Oh, what do I do? I'm just about to start a new show with Edie from Zumanity. I don't know if you've ever seen that show, but she's the lead. She's the lead host for that show as Zumanity closed. I think most of the Cirque shows closed. I don't think they're coming back at all. Le Reve not coming back, Zumanity not coming back. I want to say only one can be back is Mystere, but I'm not sure, but all in all of the Cirque shows, none of them are coming back. Very. No, this is some serious stuff. But I was working with some stuff over with her over the quarantine release and traveling shows like this. She has this group of drag Queens that sing live and they like don't sing. They like sang, like they blow the house down. It's pretty awesome to hear these drag Queens get up and then actually hear them sing live, but not just seeing live actually just wail. And their harmonies are incredible. Like it's just really cool. So it just shows cough. Fabulous. It'll be downtown at the Notoriety theater, it's almost like it's on my, on Fremont, in the what is that thing called? It's where Krave was or the new Krave was going to be, the Neonapolis. Okay. Yeah. And the Neonapolis it's called Notoriety theater. It's called Fabulous. And it's going to be like, it's gonna start out just like every Friday, I believe. So that's coming up. What else is coming up? Did you do. I'm going on vacation. That's what's going on. That's all I can go Hawaii. Nice. But I'm not going to Kona this time I'm Going with friends to Oahu. I haven't decided on my, I might hop over. I might take a little hopper depending on how the COVID stuff works or whatever, and go see my friends over there. But I have friends in Oahu too, like tons of friends. I'm just excited. We got tickets round trip for a $281. I don't know if you've ever been to Hawaii or it's never been 281. No,

Gil:

no. Even for 400

Curtis:

something. Yeah. That was after taxes. So I was like me and my best friend were looking at one time and I was like click I was like, no way. There's no way it's ever not going to be that. But then they just have that, what's it called? The the plane from Colorado or whatever from Tennessee, whatever, going to Honolulu. I saw that engine went crazy. I was like, Oh my God. I was joking with him that like our plane is probably going to crash. He was like, shut up though. Let's not. And I was like, I dunno, those planes had been in the garage awfully long time. Like when you have a car in the garage, like just go in there and start it up, whatever, just mixer an awful lot of time, checked on those. Somebody better check them though, because I don't want to. And it was so funny that, cause that just happened recently and he messaged me and he was like, look, I was like, I told you honestly, I'm just like, I think this year made it so easy to be like, you know what? I don't really know what's next. But I'm okay with that. And I'm just like, I'm excited for whatever happens. I almost feel like my adventure when adventurously like 21 year old self, again, just taking the world by storm. It's what I, what the, world's your oyster again? And you just do whatever you want. Granted of course, I want. To be able to start-up at Piranha again. And I want to be at Piranha till the day I die or whatever gay club is the most popular. Like I just want to be, I really want I'll whatever I'll ever want to be was a part. The this community and I am, and I never want to lose that. I never want to lose that. So hopefully that all works out and that will be amazing. And yeah, and then my show Zombie Burlesque I'm hoping that comes back. We show up, we still don't know. Nobody really knows. It was perfect for me. I love that. But if something else happens and something else great happens that's cool too. I'm really in a space where, I made this whole year and then nothing was open. Yeah. I, especially like on unemployment too, like the unemployment was nice. Don't get me wrong. I'm not gonna, knock it cause I needed it. But even with the unemployment, that was still less than half of what I was making before. Yeah. Yeah. All I really want, is my businesses to be back on, at work, but I really like to get back to, how it works. So yeah,

Gil:

absolutely soon enough, we'll get that second or first vaccines

Curtis:

out here. So I know, they said the new Johnson, one is going to hopefully come up with a single dose. Oh, perfect. but like I said, this whole year, like planning, I realized planning stuff is just, it's not even worth it anymore. Now. I'm like, Oh, this is the last three months. No, I'll maybe just for me all the way to Christmas okay. Even past Chris. Oh my God. Like it just it's almost pointless, and it puts things into perspective, and once you submit to it and go, you know what? You really just can't. Yeah. You really can't and I think that's that calming nature that I noticed that I see or I saw or still see in older people today, I just, all people, just a little more calm, there's whatever, like we'll get there when we get there, we'll do this. We, that don't stress about this because they've already been through stuff like this. So by the time you're at that age, everybody, the world just works that way, where everybody, by the time you get to that age, you've been through something like this. And I think it really just calms you down, comes your generation down. Like I said, we were those people that are still like, your value is determined by how much you're. You're achieving and how much you're doing and how much does on your schedule? How much is your calendar? What are you doing? What do you got going on? What's the next move and what's the next, and this was really one of those moments to be like, Hey look guys. Yeah, none of that really matters. I'm just really excited to get back to doing more work, but doing it with less. I dunno, what's the word, like less pressure on myself to do more, I want to do more without being like, feel the pressure of doing it more, just do it. Cause I want to. Yeah,

Eric:

I think that's great. I think that's great advice and a great way to go. I love

Curtis:

how you'd be a happy person. Now. You love being a happy person. You love when you're happy. So like, why would I ever put myself in a situation where I'm not going to be happy? So it just makes sense. So I want to be a happy person. So I just want to do stuff that makes me happy.

Eric:

I think that's good. I hope you achieve all of that. Yeah,

Curtis:

I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I just gotta keep doing it. That's what it is.

Eric:

I want to thank you so much for taking time out of your schedule to come chat with us, and you're always welcome back. If you ever want to come back and visit us Q

Curtis:

lounge. Yes. For sure. For sure. Anytime. Thank you guys so much. It's been an awesome little conversation. I know I probably talked most, but I'm just a talker.

Gil:

I think it's just all about you. Yes, no, please. Oh, I love

Eric:

that. We talked about ourselves and now that's getting away

Gil:

to a bunch about us. I'm like,

Curtis:

Oh, don't peek behind the curtain.

Gil:

Yeah.

Curtis:

Any time.

Eric:

oh nice. You might cause a riot with that. Thank you so much. And we have to be with you guys again later.

Curtis:

Of course. Nice to meet you, Gil. Nice to meet you and hopefully Eric I see you again. Soon when we get back to normal.

Eric:

Thank you so much

Gil:

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