March 8, 2023
Season 5, Episode 5
Gil and Eric discuss various topics from more anti-trans bills, to fashion houses and penis sizes and much more.
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Hello and welcome to the Q Lounge where we like to discuss new stories and life events as it relates to the L G B T Q I A experience. I am
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Gil:and I'm Gill.
Eric:And just a quick apology for not dropping an episode this past week. Life gets in the way sometimes and things happen but we are, sorry, I gotta Gil. Gil was sick, honestly, is what it was, but sorry we couldn't be, we couldn't drop an episode, but we have to take care of ourselves and our health but we're back.
And
Gil:Hello everyone.
Eric:We thank you for joining us again for the three of you. Listened to us every once in a while. Hi mom. That's pretty much it. Yeah. her, mom and Chris.
Gil:There we go. ended a miscellaneous. Yes. So how are you doing Eric? I
Eric:am doing pretty well. Good. How about you?
Gil:I am good. I was Chris and I, like I said, we were finally on a vacation a little bit to get away. So we froze to death in Seattle. In Vancouver. A shocker, right? the middle of February. That's where I got my cold and finally caught up to me and I was like, oh, I don't do well in cold weather for super long.
Eric:Yeah, he couldn't talk. So it would've just, probably would've been a regular episode anyway cause I talk so much as it is,
Gil:but. It's okay. So what is going on today in the news? How are we screwed this time?
Eric:We are screwed in a lot of ways. This is
Gil:no lube government. Great job,
Eric:Yeah we're screwed with no lube. Like we're being like stretched raw. Let's talk about the fact that we are now at over 450 anti l gt, Q I a plus legislations happening across this country.
Gil:Jesus. That, that is just crazy. Yes, it's March 1st. Yes. It's only March 1st. People
Eric:think the only number that might be higher than this is the number of mass shootings. Yes. I know I'm jumping and I know I'm reaching a little bit the, but those are like the two highest numbers, at least in my opinion. Gil's ignoring
Gil:me. Oh no, I am, I'm actually looking up because I'm curious how many gun restriction laws are happening in this zero. Zero?
Eric:Yeah, there might be like two perf, there might be like two performative bills happening,
Gil:but there's no absolute bands. Yes. On assault rifles.
Eric:Yes, exactly. Yeah. But we are banning 400 or over 450,
Gil:please.
Eric:And actually, this figure was as of February 26th, I believe. Oh so you
Gil:probably broke Yeah. That's staggering. Yeah. Oh my God.
Eric:And most of them are anti-trans bills. Correct. And I know we talk about these anti-trans bills a lot this season, and we're going to keep talking about them and keep talking about them and keep talking about them. because it's important that they be discussed.
Gil:Yeah. They are being attacked. The smallest minority group. Yes. Even within the L B T Q I A. Yes. Group is being attacked here. Yes. Aggressively. Yes. Not even calmly. Don't mind affected. Our children are getting shot down by gun. It's not the gun fault apparently. It's not the manufacturer It's the people pulling the trigger. Yes. Cuz that's the only issue with the situation.
Eric:But the people pulling, the majority of the people pulling the trigger are the people who are trying to live in your bedroom and trying to live in your uterus.
Gil:Yes. Mind. Just mind boggled.
Eric:I've been using the emoji a lot with the mi, with the mind blown emoji because I am just. I'm mind blown by the stupidity and the ignorance and the hatred all in the name of Christ. Yes. Yeah. That rhetoric is mind blowing to me. Let's talk a little bit about Tennessee.
Gil:It's going on with our whiskey friends.
Eric:They have a new drag bill that they are set that Governor Bill Lee is set to sign. He has said he would sign it. the bill classifies drag shows as adult cabaret performances and criminalizes them as well as engaging in quote, male or female impersonations in public spaces or in front of children, regardless of the nature of the show. Yeah. But the fun the ironic thing is too, is that photos have surfaced of Uhhuh the governor dressed as a woman now. Yes. Because I guess apparently, like they, for years they've done like charity and fundraiser events where they have men dressing up as women impersonations. And they've done a lot of fundraising in that way through different schools and different charities. And now that's all going to be illegal.
Gil:And that's the thing of considered old south parties. And this was part of, while he was an undergrad at Auburn University in Alabama. And that's the thing he tried to say, oh, at first when he was interviewed about this in 2019, it was, oh, I only did it in high school. But honey, you did it again. And when you're in university is this really There's nothing to shame it. It's, but no, don't be a hypocrite about the situation as if it's. Like I said, it's,
Eric:it's the hypocrisy. It's,
Gil:yeah. It just doesn't make, it doesn't add up cuz it's in the same thing, the vein of, for the children. And I always, I've been saying that for years, laughing about shit because I'm always like, oh, for the children. It's not for the children we know. Not for the children. For the children. It was, we would've had bad loss from when Columbine happened. Exactly. You and I live through that. Yes. And remember when it first happened, it was just so unthinkable and we're up to the point where now it's all statistics. Yeah. How many happened today? How many bad shootings are we at right now? Are we on pace that should not be talked about?
Eric:Yeah. I mean that literally happened on my birthday. Yeah. Two years after I graduated.
Gil:You were just 10 when this happened and it was just, it was just mind blowing. Then I remember that. I was like, yeah. It was like, what the hell? It was scary.
Eric:Yeah. And nothing's been done about that. No, absolutely not. And we just had Uvalde and we had Sandy Hook, what happened years ago? Theater shootings. It's
Gil:not for the children. We know
Eric:that Yeah. We look at what happened at Michigan State just recently. Yeah. It's not for the children, It's an excuse. Yeah. Oh, we care about the children. No, you don't.
Gil:You would fund the schools if you cared for the children.
Eric:Exactly. That's another thing. If they're trying to take away education, they're trying to ban books. They're trying to ban learning.
Gil:Correct. And I even saw the way that they redistricted some areas. And the property taxes, to pay for public schools. The difference between public schools, there were some rich public schools and then there were some really, oh shit, how is this even in the US kind of thing? Yeah. But for
Eric:the children. But and you have people, the char, I don't wanna say the charges being led by, but one of the more vocal people is, I don't even wanna say his name, death sentence in Florida. Yeah. We're gonna call him Death sentence. Yes. With hi. He's like now trying to propose a new test instead of the SATs. I don't know if you heard about that. I don't, I heard about it. I don't remember all the details on it, but but he ha we have that and then he just pulled all that funding from Disney and is saying that Disney has to pay back all this stuff. He's going after Disney hardcore and I'm like, I hope Disney can, actua will actually stand up to him and. Yeah. I also wanna know if any of that's gonna affect Universal, because can you really like just pull the funding from Disney but not universal?
Gil:Just Disney and Huh? The Disney because of the way they are negotiated with the government only. Okay. That's the only reason. Okay. Yeah. Universal is on their property already. They have less power, but Disney had power.
Eric:No, I know Disney had power and I don't want to, I don't know if funding was the right word to use. I know Disney had, has power, had power. but I want Disney Universal have some of those perks. No. No, not
Gil:at all. No, not at all. Because the way Disney, Walt Disney purchased that property, it was a pretty much. We'll give you X amount of dollars, let us run it. Okay. And we'll take the burden off of you. That's the way that they bought the property versus Universal? Did not to that level. Okay. Yeah. Cuz literally they bought the size of San Francisco. Yeah. In the middle of Florida is what it is. So that's why Disney has that special privileges. but he, yeah. But that guy is trying to strip or, pretty much, oh, you can strip 'em away. But then Disney's here's the $1 billion tax on it. then go, good luck. Or not tax, it's a $1 billion thing to pretty much run the thing. Yeah. Because it's a lot. It's a full water district. It's a full, their own police department. Everything.
Eric:But the, isn't he trying to like, make it where Disney is still responsible for it, but they don't get the perks now or something? Correct. But I also like when I'm bringing up Universal, I guess I'm prob I'm probably not communicating it right. I think anything that goes against Disney would probably, at least by proxy, go against Universal. Al like it's gonna affect them. I would think it will
Gil:because Yeah. The tourism, like if Disney starts Yeah. Shutting or shrinking it, it will affect Universal pretty much wherever Disney goes. Universal's right behind it. Yeah. To some
Eric:degree, they followed each other. I'm not gonna say that this is gonna happen, but if Disney said, fuck you or Deuces were out. Correct. Florida would be fucked.
Gil:Yeah. As much as they love to bitch about California, that's a California company generating millions of dollars. Yeah. For that fucking state. We know that again, universal. Another one, it's straight from the west coast. You're welcome. Yeah. They invested in their states and now they, that's where we're at with that. But, he's tour touring New Hampshire, Iowa, Nevada. Oh, is he? I didn't know that. Yes. Because yeah, he's touring.
Eric:He's gonna prepping, put in his, yeah, he's prepping for his bid for presidency.
Gil:Yeah. Nobody who goes to those states, willingly, all at the same time are not gonna be running. He's gonna be, he's putting his feelers out there. Yeah.
Eric:Cause right now, I the other, Trump is the only one right, right out there right now, isn't it? Kinda meaning, yeah. Yeah. And he just gave a huge speech about how he's going to overturn the horrifying policies that Biden said into motion protecting the trans community. And he's going to make it illegal. Yeah. And put bands on the trans community, including in any reaffirming care as far as like puberty blockers and any types of surgeries because he's going to stop the mutilation. Yeah. Of, at first it was children and now it's mutilation of anybody. We're gonna stop this against anybody. We're going to just ban trans people in general. He's trying to do away with the trans community we're, whereas DeSantis was like, we just won't see you and acknowledge you. He's like actually trying to like one up him and say, we're gonna put an end to it. Yeah. Again, as we've children are not going through no reaffirming surgeries. They're not. They're not. It's not happening. Okay. You wanna talk? You wanna talk about mutilation and child mutilation? Let's talk circumcision. Natural. No one seems to bad an eye of that. I know there's more of a push now against it. Yeah. But, and I know there's like new methods of people trying to re-stretch their skin and trying to make themselves uncut now. But you still have lost already. You've already lost all those nerve vendings. Correct. Correct. Yeah. Let's talk circumcision, if you wanna talk about mutilate mutilating bodies. Yeah. But you don't hear that being talked about at all. Correct. Why is that? You're shrugs answered all I just
Gil:Like I said, it's never for the children, it's never for what it is. It's never for the children. I'm just hoping that this time around or anytime around that the media, that the, that people challenge their politician. Like, where's the facts honey? Where's the fact, just fact check. That's all we're asking. And just be more critical about the information that you're given, right? Yeah. And just like us, they, I'm sure people are gonna be listening to our podcast or to fact check the hell out us. Are you sure That's They should, you should be. Yeah. Please
Eric:do. Absolutely. And if's the, and if we're wrong and you need to correct us, by all means, please reach out to us.
Gil:Yes. And that's the thing. It's like with these, with these big politicians, these branded names and stuff like that, it's the they're sending and that's what's so dangerous about this, about, oh, I'm gonna do this. I'm going to keep one upping. And then the media gives 'em such. Such play of oh my God. But to me it should be fact checking. No, honey, where's the evidence? what are you talking about? What's going on here? Instead of keep asking, what else would you do? Yeah. Oh, honey, this is, oh, why would you do that is the better thing. How stupid
Eric:would you, why would you do that? Exactly,
Gil:yes. And I think we need to be more critical about it because it words affect things. They are, they're like, what is it? The the dog whistle, pretty much, it may not affect the common person, but you're gonna get that one crazy ass person who's yeah let's kill 'em. You only need one.
Eric:You already have that with QAN on, and January 6th was a great representation of that. Yes. So that's already happening. Yeah. So you have not just one crazy person, but you have. several thousand.
Gil:Yep. That's all you need. They allowed this to happen. That re that Republican party needs to go down. They need to figure the shit out. Just dissolve them.
Eric:I don't know that it'll be that easy though. No,
Gil:I in time it will be nothing else. The boomers are dying out. Any who un you know
Eric:Yeah. But they're already, they're gonna fuck up everything before they go. Oh,
Gil:absolutely. That's why we have to ship their bodies out the sea. Don't waste our land.
Eric:You have schools and like even I saw this thing about this Christian school was trying to be inclusive and embrace the L G B T Q I A community. This is out of Kansas City, Missouri. Okay. And they were forced to close because there was such an uproar about the inclusivity. And I'm just trying to think, I, everyone wa everyone likes to preach of we are supposed to love everybody. We're supposed to love everybody. It's the Christian way, but then you have that,
Gil:it never fails to amaze me, right? how many times we hear that? That's same thing. Just like the story I told you about the, the Catholic priest turning away, the homeless guy that I witnessed Yeah. Where they had a fucking potluck. I'm like, really? It, it does not, and I think a part of it with why they need Jesus is because they're more concerned about if I show up to church every day, if I donate all my, savings so that the, so that the church is able to produce, their own private helicopter, it's because. Hell bent on buying their way into heaven, into the perception of heaven. because they're not good people. And it could be that they need God, because otherwise they'd be terrible human beings more than they are. Yeah. Potentially. I don't know, I'm just spitting stuff here, but they're kinda my, they're also
Eric:playing into the whole they're proving the point too. If you ever have read the story of Moses or seen the 10 Commandments where they were told they do not worship false idols. And it's gonna be the people who scream the loudest that are gonna actually be worshiping the false idols. And that's what's happening now. Yeah. In their eyes. If you, they are actually contradicting everything that they're trying to preach.
Gil:you can't make this shit up.
Eric:No, I wish you could. I know. I wish this was all a story.
Gil:Yeah, like it's all a check in. We're reading an onion article. No, that
Eric:would be great if it, so if this is what that was,
Gil:you know the onion starting to sound more realistic than anything else. I can't even tell it. It's,
Eric:I know, cause you're like, that really just happened. It's what's her name from Georgia? I also don't wanna say her name either, but Yeah, that one. That one is talking about the country needs to go through a divorce and then if you're gonna move to a red state from a blue state, you can't vote for five years.
Gil:we had a war about that They lost
Eric:and they're trying to bring it back up again.
Gil:Yes. Like I said, they probably should have made an example of them.
Eric:and this is why allies are allyship is important. Yep. And this is why representation matters. Yep. Even though in England, 44% of Brits think that L G B T Q I A people are overrepresented on tv, really overrepresented. It was through a survey. And more than four in 10. So about 44% Britains think that lgbtq plus people are overrepresented on television. The survey of a thousand people also found that roughly the same amount of respondents, about 45% believe ethnic minorities are overrepresented on screen with just 26% viewing them as underrepresented.
Gil:That is
interesting.
Eric:That is so crazy to me. And I know this is England and England's different than the US but they're they parallel in a lot of ways.
Gil:I was gonna say, white Americans definitely got it from their mother. From the English. Yes. Yes. And I know there's, people like to separate the two oh, they're not, no. Americ White Americans have the same ignorance as their mother. Yes. I guarantee it's an absolute truth. stand by that.
Eric:Look at what's happening now. And I know this is a little pop culturey, but like Michelle Yeoh is having, like finally getting her flowers. Correct. She is like one of my favorite actresses. Yes. I've adored her for years. Yes. I will basically just watch something because she's in it, or I'll be a fan of the movie just because she's in it, even though I've never seen it. Yep. Because I adore her. Yes. She's like an Angela Bassett to me. Yeah. They're probably, I agree. They're just like, maybe one notch below Janet Jackson to me. So like I'm super happy that she's getting her flowers. Yeah. But I, there is no way in hell that ethnic minorities are overrepresented. There is, and there is no way that the lgbtqia plus community is overrepresented not
Gil:even fucking close.
Eric:I would venture to say that we still make up a good, like maybe 5% of the storyline of the represented. Storyline other than being a caricature
Gil:y. Yeah. Or
Eric:laughs being
Gil:the token. And that's what I feel like what is their rep, their view of the representation? Is it just the token? Yeah. Is it the main, because I could tell you we don't have a lot of main where we are not storyline. And
Eric:the thing is anything that is the main only lasts like two or three seasons and then they cancel the shit.
Gil:Yeah. And then they still have the straight people still having their pretty damn near as much screen time. Oh yeah.
Eric:Do better England do
Gil:better. Do better. Yeah. But even within the minorities and stuff like that, you know that how like how many Latino they, George Lopez cannot be the main person in every fucking movie.
Eric:No, we have, for a moment, we had John ligo. Oh, that's true. And we have Selma Hayek and Jennifer Lopez, but still four people.
Gil:Yeah. Like they can't play every fucking character there is. Yeah. Or represent us completely
Eric:Neil Patrick Harris. Yeah. He can't be the only gay and maybe Billy Eichner now. Little bit.
Gil:Yeah. And that's the way it felt like. No, just because you see him in a The comedy does not make it. Oh, I see 'em all the time.
Eric:Yeah. We're forcing our lifestyles down the throats of the straight community.
Gil:That's true. Yes. We are 100% just forcing our way. Yes. Right around Sorry, But it's, this is so stupid. so stupid. It's terrible. It's like complaining about having, oh my God, we have so many minority presidents because we had one in the last 250 years So many women in office really
Eric:You sure about that?
Gil:Even the English, look at how many prime ministers they had. Even within that ra, they finally had the first, what? Minority?
Eric:Yeah. That's what's his name? I forgot his name now. Yeah, for the, but He's I don't know how, I don't know how to say it without being offensive, so I'm not gonna say it, but,
Gil:but yes, they have him. Yeah. The token person for the conservative party, but the first
Eric:minority. That's kind of what I was gonna, that's exactly where I was aiming at. He's like the Tim Scott. Yeah. Herschel. He's also, I think
Gil:for the Republicans. Yeah. The counterbalance. Yeah. That's all it is. It's that fakest blacks for Trump or gays for Trump or women for Trump. Oh God.
Eric:I still don't understand that. We digress. Yeah, we digress. But let's go into this, in Iowa, the, you have eight house Republicans in Iowa who have introduced a joint resolution to amend this state constitution to ban same sex marriage.
Gil:That's gonna be shot down, but.
Eric:House joint resolution eight h j r eight reads in accordance with the law of nature and oh my God. Sorry, Go ahead. Go ahead. This is fun. In accordance with the laws of nature and nature's God. Oh. The state of Iowa recognizes the definition of marriage to be this solemnized union between one human, biological male and one human biological female. Hj. R eight was introduced by Iowa representatives, Brad Sherman. Luana Stoltenberg, mark Sisnaros. Oh, that's disappointing. Helena Hayes, Zach Deacon, Skylar Wheeler, Mark I. Thompson, and Thomas Gerold. A second bill was introduced on Tuesday, which would permit Iowa residents to not acknowledge same sex marriages on religious grounds. It would also null and void sections of the Respect for Marriage Act in Iowa.
Gil:What the
Eric:fuck? And they're saying that the Respect for Marriage Act, which was signed into law by Biden in December of last year yes. Violates the US Constitution because it goes against their religious freedom. It, when did religious freedom become the right to discriminate based on my religious beliefs, when it was supposed to be my right to worship in the way that is fit for
Gil:me. Correct. They're using it as a weapon now that, that's fun. But you're absolutely right. That's the whole first amendment situation here. It's so that no one else can interfere with your religion. It's just between you and your maker. Yeah. The then end of discussion, like I, when people are like my religion, I dot fucking care. I do not care. Betty, who you believe in, what cha boo you know, behind your closed doors, that's up to you. Yeah. And that is your God-given, right? As an American. does the US Constitution mention the word Jesus or God in it? The answer's zero. Let me to shortcut it for you. Yeah. Nowhere in the United States Constitution doesn't mention God, g o d. It does not exist. He does not exist in the US Constitution, nor does Jesus. It does not exist in the US Constitution whatsoever.
Eric:Correct me if I'm wrong, and please do correct me if I'm wrong. I think the only place in fact that. anything like that would even be mentioned if on a religious basis is the separation of church and
Gil:state. That's the closest right there. That's it. There's a reason it's there. Yes. The founding follows, were not religious. We know that there is documented proof that they were not, they knew the importance of religion, but they were not religious themselves. Agnostic. Probably at best.
Eric:What is the importance? Generous What? What is the importance of religion
Gil:keeping order? That's the importance of religion. It's order. Okay. That's what I would bubble everything down to because it creates laws, it creates people. Ha. It's easier to conceptualize life. I have a goal if I be good, like I said, these people need it, but they not, I'm a good person. If they're not, then yeah, I, when I perish at some point, cause we are all gonna die. There is something for me and it gives 'em hope.
Eric:So you can be a shitty ass fuck nut cunt bubble. On earth. You're going to go to heaven. Yep. Okay.
Gil:Yeah. That's what, to me, that's their interpretation. Like I say, it just, it's order, it keeps order. There's that fear. Oh, if I do bad, something might, readily strike me down.
Eric:Yeah. This is weird for me. I, an ami an admission that I'm going to make, cause I've for many years have considered myself agnostic. Yeah. And I probably still am slightly agnostic, but more and more every day I find myself becoming more atheist.
Gil:Welcome to the millennials, Millennials. Millennials and Gen Z are the lowest religious groups by far. And welcome Eric
Eric:And I just always say I'm agnostic because I don't know that there's not a higher power per se, and I don't want to shit on anyone else's belief system. Yeah. As long as you're not fucking me over with your belief system. So who am I to say whatever? But the more and more I'm just like, yeah. I don't really think I believe in anything like that. I'm not the way I don't even know that I'm open to having that belief anymore.
Gil:Yeah. I don't know. For me, the way I've always looked at it is there's what, 7 billion people on the planet? There should be 7 billion interpretations. Yes. Of where life, what life. Where is there an afterlife? Is there whatever it is that's gonna make you happy? And I, it's not the shit on it, it's just there's no fucking way that one person discovered it or this was, there's no way. No, there's no way. No. That's the part I never bought. Is there a higher power? There could potentially. I would not, it would not surprise me if we
Eric:were, I would think it would almost go into like the way that the ancient civilizations believe though, where there's many different deities. Yeah, potentially. See I don't, I totally believe it in afterlife because I have had many paranormal experiences.
Gil:yes. That keeps me believing. The go, sorry thing. Yes. There is something going on there that we cannot see. And I do believe more in that Yeah, Yeah. But the way this is the true religion. I don't buy that shit. I have never, even as a kid, I was like, that just sounds stupid. But that was just, like I said, I was always an outlier. I never spoke openly about it because to me, if you believe in it, good. I like gifts, I like to enjoy celebrations. I like celebrating. I'll, whatever the fuck you guys are doing, I'll do, but, you
Eric:know, I don't know. Yeah. I don't mind celebrating Christmas for, I'm not really into gifts now, but for gifts or family time, friend time, whatever, like the day off I'm
Gil:fine with all that. I get I like the pageantry, the whole Yeah. Decorat. And for me, I like the decorations. I'm like, look the gay me yes, Yeah. Let's, make it look pretty. But when it, like I said, when it comes down to the, but it's all based off Pagan holidays. It No, absolutely. But that's part of it. The, the, how do you convert people? Oh, it sounds similar. Yeah. And then you convert 'em all forcibly. The saddest part about all of this is that when you get to the root of all these different religions, like I said, it's normally comes down to love. Being, good people, but it's when you start inserting 600 pages above their bullshit and moral stories, or are some of, a lot of 'em are irrelevant. even if you take the, what you're trying to get out of it and. Horribly translated over the decades and reinterpreted and know, and pick, didn't you edit this? Yeah. Pick at you. I, unfortunately the religions, they do get bad rap now and I, for better or for wars. But like I said, it was a guy who rided it who wrote the damn things.
Eric:Like guys, honestly. And see, this is where I lean back agnostic, like I don't know. I don't know if that's gonna be the right word, but I am all for the betterment of you. So if being religious makes you a better person, by all means be religious. Yeah. Believe the way you need to believe. Be a good person. Whatever's going to make you better. Do that. I'm totally fine with it. I am not going to hate on you for being religious. Yeah. I'm not gonna hate on you for believing in a way other than I do. Where we're gonna have an issue is when you start dictating to me how I can live my life based on your beliefs and your religion. Yeah. That's where the whole issue comes from.
Gil:Yeah. It's a thing. It just It goes to your rights, right? As an American my rights and where yours begins. Yes. And that's the way it is. Yes. Okay. The, yeah. You could cuss up a storm, you could do whatever the speech, free speech your way through. But once your words start having weight and then, like, why we can't scream fire in a crowded building. Yeah. It's because the impact of those words leads to a bad situation. it could cause harm. And then now you're impending on everyone else's for so many to, they're rights as Americans. Yeah. That's why it ends. That's, it's as simple as that. I think the easiest way to explain why your rights are not unlimited. They never happen. They're not, there are gonna be some limitations, obviously, but Yeah. God, it's so fucking exhausting talking about it. It's like But this is the thing is just be a good
Eric:person. Yeah. That's literally it. Most atheists and agnostic people I know are more quote unquote Christ-like than Christians are Yeah. And it's just because they're just good people.
Gil:You just, I don't know. I don't, you just accept, like I said, you're, I dunno, some of these people need to get to like bigger cities and see diversity and figure it out. they really do because I, like I said, we're talking about people in like Iowa, where it's 97% white. They've never, they haven't seen a black person in 10 years besides the basketball team coming through for the university. Yeah.
Eric:I lived in Iowa for a brief moment. and I'll just leave it up there or
Gil:internal, but it's the same thing, like when I go up to Seattle, I'm the darkest person for miles around. True. Yes, thankfully they're leading left, but there's also part of it where there is some ignorance about Yeah, what a minority should feel like. And there's that over explanation. Oh, you're brown. How come you don't speak your language? Cuz I'm born in the us. Like the fuck, that's such an offensive. But they do. I use again, how come you don't speak Spanish, aren't you Filipino? I'm born this, there's a California stamp on my ass. I'm born here. like English is a defecto language.
Eric:I mean I still get that in living in New Mexico too. If you don't speak Spanish And I'm like, and when I lived in Colorado, when I lived in Iowa, you don't speak Spanish, you don't speak your language. I'm like, I was born here I'm like third generation. Yeah. and. Culturally speaking, there was a whole time period where you did not speak Spanish because they, everyone was trying to assimilate with white people. Yeah.
Gil:That's my dad's side. Yeah. That's why it was a whole generation. We don't speak Spanish. Exactly. It was frowned
Eric:upon Yes. Because it meant you were poor. Yeah. Meant you are less than.
Gil:Hate. Think people need, get reeducated about why Exactly.
Eric:But then we can't teach that.
Gil:No, we cannot. Remember us is taught from east to west. The west just popped up randomly. Yes. Because this Spaniard toward here, Yes, of course. That's a, that Louisiana purchase history also. Yeah, There's no one West. What's the Appalachian? Appalachian Mountains got, oh goodness. History. Religion. Yes. I think we're about to light up every fire.
Eric:probably. Probably. Did you see the speech that Gabrielle Union gave at the NAACP awards?
Gil:I did not. How was it?
Eric:It was a beautiful speech. Okay. And she was talking about representation in the black community. But then she went on and said, but the thing is that we're not representing our trans community, our black trans community. Ooh, that's big. That's very big. And she spoke out against not supporting the trans part of the community. Like you're going to include the community you have. Yeah. The black community. You have to include the entire Yeah. Black community, which includes the trans community. And I was just like, It was an amazing speech. If you guys can find it on TikTok or YouTube typing, Gabrielle Union NAACP speech. I don't want to not do it justice, but it's an amazing speech. I was literally in tears because she was talking about inclusivity. She was talking about being better for the people, being better for this generation. It was an amazing speech. And then her husband, Duane Wade, also talked about like how honored and blessed he is to have his daughter. And I'm gonna just read you some of his, I'm gonna just read you this a little bit. Okay. Dwayne Wade made a remarkable speech towards 15 year old daughter Zaya as quote as your father. All I've wanted to do was get it right. I've sat back and watched how gracefully you've taken on the public scrutiny, and even though it's not easy, I watched you walk out of that house every morning as yourself. I admire how you've handled the ignorance in our world. I admire that you've what you face every day as your father. My job isn't to create a version of myself or direct your future. My role is to be a facilitator to your hopes, your wishes, and your dreams. Zaya, you have made me a better human just simply by being who you were born to be. A baby girl. Zaya Wade. Oh my God. So I People need to take a page out of Dwayne Wade and Gabrielle Union's. Yeah. Book
Gil:I love it. That's what it's
Eric:about. Yeah. That's literally what it's about.
Gil:Oh teed. I love it. That's a great speech.
Eric:Yeah, I think if anyone, if you look it up, type in, go into TikTok, go into YouTube, look up Gabrielle Union, Duane Wade, NAACP speech. You will be blown away in such a positive way. Yeah.
Gil:You, yes, please do it. Everyone, including myself. Yes. Gil. Yes. Oh goodness.
Eric:Let's talk fashion. Cause we're, ooh, I know we've talked a little bit about. My jacket, right? Yes. I think you talked about it on the podcast. Yeah. Burberry jacket's a bit simple. So I was, I've never been a huge Burberry person. I just recently started getting into them, mainly through that jacket. And then I almost bought some sunglasses the other day that were Burberry cuz they were super cool
Gil:sun glasses. But then I What? Huh? Sunglasses. Why?
Eric:I know. Who would think I would want sunglasses, But then I come across this burberry's Trans inclusivity backlash with Campbell King visibly is not enough. And I'm gonna read this. This comes from gay times. What began as a powerful campaign soon turned sour for trans-masculine, non-binary musician Campbell King, the image of gentle intimacy and queer love featuring Campbell in gender, queer creative Mia Maxwell. Shared on Burberry's Instagram page on January 25th was meant to be a celebration of love between two visibly gender queer individuals. Until the hate comments came, they attacked Burberry, Campbell and Mia, and in the following days, articles and right wing talk shows spread hateful characterizations of the trans experience, all because of this image of love. Then in the early hours of January 27th, Burberry quietly deleted the post without any accompanying response or formal statement. According to Campbell and Mia, the brand also acted thus without communication with the models and indirect opposition to their wishes as expressed in an email to Burberry from Campbell's management.
Gil:That's disappointing for Burberry. I think so.
Eric:That makes me, yeah,
Gil:I I am, I've always been a fan of Burberry for many, mostly cuz I've enjoyed their fragrances is one of my first ones that I, my absolute favorite fall, is a Burberry scent back in 2000 and Fi Bo But it's very disappointing for them not to stand by what they're doing Exactly. And I understand companies are trying to be as vanilla asy possible goal is to, I love vanilla, you're trying to spread, sorry, you're trying to spread, to be as, not as divi a divi, I'm using the wrong word here, divisive Divis. Yeah. You don't want to be a pissing off everyone left and right. And that's what they're trying to do as a brand. And I get from a branding, but at the same time, You, there are times when you're gonna have to stand your ground. This is what we're doing. It is the right move.
Eric:No I agree. Exactly. It's like going back to the M&M debacle. Oh fuck. Where, I said it on this podcast like by cowering to the Tucker Carlsons of the world. Correct. You're basically now excluding those that you were trying to be inclusive of. Just to appease this shit. Correct. And I feel like that's what Burberry is doing here. Oh, these people are getting mad, so we're just gonna go ahead and hurt these people that we were originally trying to market to. Yeah.
Gil:They don't have the trailer park trench coat in Burberry, so I don't understand why are they catering to them? I don't know. I don't get it. I still feel that they sh you know, Burberry needs to either get a response or come back with a bigger campaign for it.
Eric:Yes. M and ms did that.
Gil:Yeah. Because maybe bur I, and I don't know what their mindset right now is. Yeah. And this is the, what did they think was gonna happen Also during this political climate, you're gonna bring out, Yeah. The trans community. And you're gonna be like, oh, I'm shocked this happened. We had backlash. You knew what you were doing.
Eric:You, you That's true. You're absolutely right. And it goes, it plays into the cliches saying of you stand for nothing, you fall for everything. Correct.
Gil:Absolutely. That's
Eric:you. You can't sit there and be like, oh, we're going to do this campaign that's gonna be gender, queer, inclusive, blah blah, blah. We're gonna lead this charge. And oh, we're just gonna be complicit in this whole thing. And by doing that, by being silent or by cowering like that, you're just saying, yeah, it's cool. Go ahead and bully. Yeah.
Gil:It's go ahead.
Eric:Don't the Montana now has that like pro bully law. Correct.
Gil:Pretty much And that's the thing there. This is, we're in a climate of where neutrality does it pretty much accepts it. And that's the thing, it's it's not, you need, there are times when I get it. You try not to be argumentative, I guess is the way the company is cuz you wanna appeal to the masses or so people go buy your shit. It's pretty much what it comes down to. It's money. But I don't know. This is not, I don't think this is the time. It's not that you gotta lead on something you can't always wait for. it safe now? Yes. I support it. I've always been a supporter. No.
Eric:Yeah. I'll fully admit I hate conflict. I hate confrontation. Yeah. I avoid it when I can, at least in my personal life. But when it comes to certain things, you have to make your voice heard. You have to make a statement. Yeah. It's like I got in a lot of heat yesterday for a statement that I ma that I posted on Facebook, and I think I shared it on Instagram too. Basically calling out men for how they treat women, especially being threatened by powerful women. Yeah. Women who, and I, you can see it on my Instagram page. I think it's, it might even be on our. Podcast Instagram page. I'm not sure if it is or not, but cuz there's certain things you just have to speak out about. You can't be silent, you can't homophobia, transphobia, anti L G B T Q I You cannot be silent on. Anti-women. You can't be silent on racism. Yeah. Can't be silent on those are like non-negotiables.
Gil:It just doesn't, to me it just does not make sense when, like I said, with that a Burberry. That's very disappointing. On the flip side right, what's Gucci?
Eric:Yeah. Gucci. Yes. Gucci has their new campaign. Gucci guilty in an ode to self-acceptance, friendship and love in all of its forms. Yes, asap Rocky, who is Rihanna's baby daddy? Yes. Julia Garner and Elliot Page feature in the latest Gucci guilty campaign that invites each of us home, a metaphorical place where we are free to let our authentic selves be seen. I've always liked Gucci,
Gil:you and
Eric:Chris. I have always loved Gucci, so
Gil:yeah. That's awesome. Yes, I heard about that one. That one I was aware and yeah, that's good. I'm happy,
Eric:I was very happy to hear that. I was like, yes, you go Gucci with your bad self.
Gil:But it, it's nice also with some of these, with the fashion, these fashion you. Companies going full throttle with the diversity part because we know it's historically has not been so it's nice to see it, same thing with a lot of them finally having shades more than beige, white Mayo Yes, we are. There's some of us with yellow underneath Dons or yeah. So I like that, not I love it. It's really been awesome to see that, especially in the marketing. Eventually they need to hire people that look like us
Eric:Yeah. You would hope, you would think. Yeah.
Gil:I used to tease that when I, my first one of my retail experiences when I forgot to retell the company I work for or Mark and I used to laugh at, I was tease 'em all the time. I said, within the Bay Area there was like 18 stores, 18 stores at the time, all within. And there was only two minority store managers. Assistant managers under 10 and we're talking, each store probably has seven, eight managers in total. Wow. And that was it. Our marketing said we are super diverse. But I said our management and kind of the people who work here, that's a reflective Wow. And when we were in Seattle, I was the person
Eric:You were that one person. What's
Gil:the person? Oh, he who? Yeah. But that's awesome. Good job, Gucci. Yes.
Eric:Good job Gucci. And quick. Big congratulations to de Brat. Her and her wife Jessica Dukart are expecting their first child. Oh. So if anyone is old enough to remember like nineties hip hop de brat from Soso death, the nineties. Yes. I know. That was like I still think of the nineties as being like five years ago and it was like 30 years ago, which is so sad.
Gil:No I'm reminded at work So the 1990s. Oh, I was like, stop wrinkling your nose when you say it. God
Eric:but congratulations to the brat. She, I'm happy for her. She's got some good hiphop music. If you guys want some quote unquote old school hiphop beats.
Gil:It's classic though. It's classic Tupac. It's classic.
Eric:It's vintage Tupac is still considered a poet and a prophet. And then good old Madonna. People were giving her so much grief. Not that long ago, But you know what? She just gave a whole middle finger to everybody. She has Six Madonna, who's 64 years old, dumped her model boyfriend shit and shit. He was like a legit model. Yeah. To hook up with a ripped 29 year old boxer. Oh,
Gil:my God. Yes. Who
Eric:trains her son at the NYC gym that they go to, and he was on an episode of Bravo Summer House For people who watch that show, I don't watch as much Bravo as I used to, but I still do watch Bravo, but I don't watch the summer house or winter house shows. Okay. So I have no idea who he is, but good for Madonna. Good
Gil:for Madonna. She got it. Yeah. I love, she's always in the news. Like you said, there's no such thing as bad press.
Eric:isn't it? Cher's like engaged like a 31 year old or something. It's something
Gil:like that. Yeah. Go
Eric:your bad self.
Gil:Remember this is the things that, if this was a guy, no one would be blinking an eye, but a woman was like, oh my God. Yeah. I don't get it. Good for her.
Eric:I think so. Damn, So here's something I found interesting. I don't know if you guys will find this interesting. There was a study that came out of which countries have the men with the largest penises. Oh. What do you think number one is gonna be?
Gil:I, it's okay. I wanna say Brazil. Or potentially somewhere in, it would be somewhere in Africa. I don't know where. That's a whole continent with a lot of countries. Let's just go with Chad. Okay. A random country. I don't know.
Eric:So I would've picked Brazil too because Okay. Yeah. We've all seen the men from Brazil. Yes. And when you, when people talk about like big dicks, they're like, oh, they must be from Brazil. Yes.
Gil:Not even a hesitation.
Eric:It's, a small dick in Brazil is like, what, eight I would say nine or 10. But we can say eight. Yeah. That's considered like MicroPen in Brazil. In Brazil
Gil:standards. Yes. They
Eric:came in 22nd. Huh? I called bullshit. I was like, that's bull. Yeah. I was like,
Gil:oh, were they converting the centimeters into inches?
Eric:Oh no, I have the breakdown of centimeters and inches.
Gil:Oh, Jesus. Yeah. So 22nd.
Eric:20 seconds. The average penis in Brazil is 15.22 centimeters, which equates to 5.99 inches. I call
Gil:bullshit. I call bull. Eric, you need to test this and every single guy there. Oh,
Eric:I would be more than willing to do that. Trust me. I would be very more than willing to do that. I just for
Gil:science, for the
Eric:children. I just got for the children. I just got I'm getting back on prep. So it's open season. Yeah. I can unhinge my jaw. I can dislocate pelvis. Wait, come on
Gil:22nd. Okay, so 22nd. So those are the top five.
Eric:Top five. Because you top five, you mentioned Chad.
Gil:Yeah, Chad, let's just throw it out there. I is number
Eric:18. So they ranked higher than Brazil. Okay. They were at 15.39 centimeters or 6.06 inches. Okay. I might just watch a lot of porn though, and so I'm thinking like 15 inches is average
Gil:Okay. This is interesting.
Eric:So the top five, do you want me to go from five to one or one to five?
Gil:Let's go five to one. Okay.
Eric:Haiti is number five. Okay. I still call bullshit though. Like I still would think that would be higher, but, okay. Okay. Five is Haiti. Okay. Sudan is four. Okay. Bolivia is three.
Gil:Okay. South America. Okay. I could believe these. Yeah.
Eric:Cameroon is number two. Okay. And number one, Uhhuh. is Ecuador.
Gil:Interesting.
Eric:I thought so too. I think they might have confused Brazil and Ecuador. No, don't get me wrong. Ecuadorian men are gorgeous. I've definitely, yeah, I've definitely had my fair share of crushes on them. I wrote almost a whole book based off of one of them. I shouldn't have put that out there, but it's out there now. It's there and they definitely have very beautiful penises. Don't get me wrong. But have you seen Brazilian?
Gil:Or even Argentina. Argentina.
Eric:There, Argentina is on here. Where are they? They are number 30.
Gil:Interesting.
Eric:I often hear Germany's really big too, but they were 39th. Ooh. And just in case anyone wants to know where the US ranked us, the US tied with Israel for 59th, so 59 60. Jesus, which is Israel. Penis is beautiful too. And then when I say beautiful, I, it's substantial. Yeah.
Gil:Interesting. I, Part of me is curious that they actually measure these themselves to get the real data or they rely I guess then no, they would've been skewed if they're actually asking guys, straight guys, especially what's your PE sizes?
Eric:Yeah. Because every straight guy's gonna be like, I'm 36 inches
Gil:It's true. Yeah. Don't, we're gonna lie about it. I'll have the biggest thing. I'm like, really? And I can ask the whip maybe cuz they're gonna be like, oh yeah, I totally break up Yeah. Then we get total size.
Eric:They'll be like that half inch did nothing for me. So the global average is 14.1 centimeters or 5.54 inches. Okay.
Gil:I think I've heard that one before. So that's about, oh by, yeah, that one. I could believe that seems to be the average,
Eric:although I've always thought average was six.
Gil:Took five and a half. 5.5. Yeah. Five and a half.
Eric:You can round up ish. Yeah. So yeah, I thought that was really interesting. I still call bullshit on the Brazil thing, but I don't know.
Gil:That is interesting. It was obviously South America in Africa.
Eric:of
Gil:course. I mean we're not shocked here. Anything south of the equator pretty much. Yeah. Maybe gravity pools. The genetics.
Eric:too. Compressed to theor. Actually that could be why Ecuador? Cuz depending on where you live in Ecuador. Yeah. Because I've seen it on video where they like take a tub of water with a drain and they like go on this side of the equator and it's spins, runway. Oh yes. And they go on the other side and it spins the other way and then they go on the equator and it just falls straight down. Yeah. So maybe that gravity's just pulling straight down, I dunno.
Gil:maybe.
Eric:So then maybe they're all show there too.
Gil:Could be like a grower, a good surprise. I'm like,
Eric:oh, I saw this this guy posted something on Twitter, this was months ago. Uhhuh and talking about don't judge a book by its cover. And he showed, he had a picture, he had a side by side of him, soft versus hard. And it was like, like two inches soft. And then it was like nine and a half hard. Oh shit. Oh my god. Oh no, God. Like, And the veins were like the identical. So holy shit. Talk about a grower. Yeah. Because most people who grow, they grow like maybe three inches. So like from a two to five or from Correct. Three to six. Yeah. Maybe a seven or most show are like nine to nine and a half. Yeah. Then But then you have, you do have those show who are like nine to 12 and you're like, hell, who the hell? My pot
Gil:here.
Eric:But yeah I found that interesting thought. That's
Gil:interesting. Yeah. You would've enjoyed that research.
Eric:I would've definitely have enjoyed that research. We should
go
Gil:country to country.
Eric:Okay. Let me measure the circumference. Friends, Let me try on the different colors of lip glasses and see how deep I can go with each one.
Gil:Oh my goodness. But I, that's always fascinating. Guys are always gonna be interested. We're not gonna lie. What's the Yeah. I'm not gonna lie. I was like, how many,
Eric:how many 13 inches can you take out one time?
Gil:Shit. I like that. Fun fact though, You're booking your
Eric:sex tourism for a reason.
Gil:Yes..
Eric:And so Gill? Yes. Any new growth this week or last two weeks? He, not penis growth, but just
Gil:I know I can't,
Eric:well, mental, emotional, self-improvement type,
Gil:self-improvement. One of the things I've been working on, or not one, I've been working on a lot of damn things at this point. I started doing decluttering and I'm holding on. I, it's not just oh, I'm holding onto old shirts. I, I have documents. I have all those notices. Oh, your student loans are due. I, it's minor paid off finally. But I was in that boat.
Eric:And Are you gonna throw, are you gonna throw a fit if they do away with student loans? Are they? No, I'm just kidding.
Gil:Oh, they going through like old. Pay stubs, old things. And I was just like, why am I holding onto this shit? I really, I could not explain it at first. I said it was taxes and I think became laziness or I don't know. I really don't know. So I started going through stuff and kind of going down memory lane, some of it. And I don't know, I just been like
Eric:all those Bravo tickets,
Gil:I still have some. I do have some up I really did. I put in my little, that's a core memory. I can't get rid. No, I know. I'm just kidding. Yeah. Yeah. But other stuff I did I was just getting rid of stuff. Like I don't need this in my life or I don't know. Just I was getting in that mood of let me just start getting purching stuff that it, I don't know. It just doesn't bring joy. There's no reason for I keep hauling it from apartment. Apartment. That's so
Eric:Marie Condo of you.
Gil:I know. I know. The Asians. I kicked into me I was like, no, joy done I got rid of it. Oh my God. But yeah, I started doing that. It was funny cuz another friend of mine started doing the same thing up north. But, that's something I was, I started working on because like my sister moved out. So we've been working on our own stuff. It's why do we have this in the closet? What's going on? Do we need, six DVDs of the same damn movie? Or, no one has a DVD player anymore. So yeah, I started working on the, just decluttering and, keeping stuff I don't need or paperwork that I've had for effort that I'm not gonna look at my elementary school, some of my elementary school stuff and the stuff that we were taught back then is not relevant probably when my kid, when I had a kid kind of thing. So I started getting rid of some stuff and it was just, it was interesting. It was relaxed, I don't know, like relieving, with some of it. I was just like, time to go relive the memory. Time to go. Yeah. Oh, with you.
Eric:Let's see. I have started to actively look for a therapist Now, I was more passively looking before, like Uhhuh, oh, I should get into therapy. But let me see. And like I would look stuff up, but then I wouldn't like necessarily follow through. I think I follow, I followed through a couple times, but never heard back from them. Okay. And this happened again just recently, but I've been actively like looking for a therapist like near me. I think I might just go through better help though because that they seem to be the only responsive people right now. But yeah, I think I'm gonna, I have been talking about wanting to get into therapy for at least a year and a half. Yeah. So I'm actually actively pursuing finding a therapist now.
Gil:That's good. I'm glad you rec and it's. For the crises. I hope people, no, people know that it's, sometimes you do need that third party person impartially. talk it out, whatever it is, and that's healthy. That's excellent growth right there.
Eric:think so. Acknowledging the fact that it's okay to say I need help. Yeah. That's
Gil:a hu How many of us have struggled to even admit that? Yeah. I admit I'm
Eric:guilty. I'm also trying to, I've recognized that I have been an angel gay most of my life and I'm trying to reconcile with that and maybe, I guess push against that more so now. Okay. Of being the angel gay.
Gil:So I didn't like it. Good job Eric. Thank you. I can't wait till you, you meet them. And then tell us what you would like to tell us about it. Cause I know this gonna, beers is gonna be like, oh, Yeah. Yeah, it's good. Oh, good job. Great job.
Eric:So I have one more question for you, Gil.
Gil:Ooh. Okay, go ahead.
Eric:If anyone wants to get in contact with us, how would they go about doing that?
Gil:they would have to go to the Info.theqlounge@gmail.com. I believe I said it's right. or DM US on Instagram. We respond on Twitter. And
Eric:what are our handles? Yes, I do respond on Twitter and Instagram
Gil:Yes. We sorry, I'm all dying still. The Q Lounge is where you would get our handles.
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Gil:we're on Facebook. Oh, good. Yes. Everyone,
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Gil:We are on every streaming device possible. Apple iTunes, right? Is it iTunes still or is it Apple Music?
Eric:It's Apple Podcasts. Apple Podcasts. you can tell who, sorry. It's 1999. I apologize everyone. Spotify, Pandora, Amazon or everything. We're on everything. We are.
Gil:Yep.
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Gil:You'll see our faces, our real faces. Yes, you will. Cartoon, we'll
Eric:see you when and real. Yes, we'll see Cartoon and reel. So anything else? Gil Sorry I just fit you on
Gil:this spot. you're fine. I should know this. I'm like we're there. We respond. I promise.
Eric:they're all Eric, you respond
Gil:Yes. That's all I got.
Eric:Thank you guys all for listening to us and thank you. We'll catch you on the flip.
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