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Aug. 17, 2022

Season 4, Episode 6

Season 4, Episode 6

Gil and Eric discuss various topics and share their opinions

Transcript
Eric:

Hello and welcome to the Q lounge, I'm Eric

Gil:

and I'm Gil.

Eric:

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Gil:

Hi, welcome to the Q lounge. I'm Gil

Eric:

and I'm Eric

Gil:

and welcome back everyone. Eric, how do you feel about our lovely number 45 getting raided at Mar-a-lago?

Eric:

I think it's funny. I, what I find really funny is that you have people like Marjorie Taylor, green and Lauren Bobert, who are now screaming and yelling and tweeting to defund the Okay. And I'm like, wow, that's what it takes for you to want to defund law. When we are talking about defunding the police we're taking a stance against police brutality. In this unfair justice system and racial profiling and relocating funds to social work and mental health. And they're just throwing a tantrum because their false idol that the Bible the book that they follow says to not follow Yes, they are following their false idol. And because he was held accountable, hopefully, they're throwing this tantrum, which I find funny. I also find funny, I find that the irony in this beautiful. So this is from Politico. After calling for Hillary Clinton to be jailed in 2018. Trump signed a law that stiffened the penalty for unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents from one year to five years, turning it into a felony offense. So to me, that is just poetic justice. That is just beautiful. The like Alanis morrisette should have written that song about that. Yes. Instead of her song about coincidence yes. To make, actually make it ironic. She should have written that song

Gil:

and this, the thing people are just like it, just fact checking their wonderful Trump. Remember before it's all about her emails, all about her emails. This stems from the present. So just so people realize this is the presidential record act of 1978 is where this all stems from. The information that. The president's taken to office. So when we're talking about their emails, visitor logs, their letters, all of that is, is to be kept for 12 years. After 12 years, it becomes public information. This is unless it's something that's totally classified that obviously cannot be released. So if it puts the nation at risk, those are will be classified. But otherwise it is public domain no. President should be walking out of their office with the information and that's what was obtained. But the DOJ has not released a statement yet. And they shouldn't either of what, and they shouldn't because this is an ongoing investigation, but that's what it is. It was at least 15 boxes plus an additional, no 12 plus an additional 15 boxes were obtained back. And it was more than likely collecting information that he should not have ever taken.

Eric:

So from my understanding, there was like a meeting between the DOJ and his attorneys in June. Yes. And they were discussing like stuff that was taken and they noticed the 12 boxes. And then at some point between then between that meeting and what happened? Was it yesterday? Yeah. So we're recording this a week after or recording this a week before that it's gonna drop. So the raid happened yesterday. From what I heard on CNN, and I don't know if you know anything more about this, the DOJ had contacted his attorneys and told them that they were not to touch anything in that room and they had to secure the room and lock it up. And so they had to add like chains and locks to it. Yes.

Gil:

Okay. But if anything is destroyed yeah. Yes. Then there are penalties beyond So here's, no, he should have removed it.

Eric:

Yeah. So also if you. Him or any president decides like, Hey, I want this like this, they're talking about the quote unquote love letter that he got from Kim Jong UN, correct? That he's not allowed to take that. No. Cause it's official document it's official documents. So if he wanted it and it was okay for him to have it, they would make him a copy. Correct. Copy that he could have a copy of it, but the original had to stay there. Correct. All of it has to be turned in. Every president has. Yeah. Cause a lot of this will go into your library, which I don't know what his library gonna be. Just like a picture book, an empty room. yeah. An empty room. I also find it interesting too, cuz the, I believe the day before they CNN released all released those photos of him flushing ripped up papers down the toilet and trying to flush them away. Huh. And the staff has said that this is not the first time it's, he's done that. And if you read those papers one of 'em says Rogers and the other one, and I don't know who Rogers is per se. You might know who that is. But the other one says Stefanik, who is Elise Stefanik, who is the woman that replaced Liz Chaney as head as one of the high whips for the Republican party in the Senate, not the Senate in the house of representatives because they got mad at Chaney because she did one good thing and said, no, he was wrong. And she's on the July 6th, the January 6th committee. Wow. I cannot get my dates, my, the January 6th committee. And so they replaced her with Ste. So I just find it interesting that name is actually very legible on that piece of paper that is sitting on the bottom of the toilet. And they're saying like, that is his handwriting.

Gil:

I'm telling you if this was the same Republican group that is trying to defend him. If this was Obama doing this, they got

Eric:

mad over a tan suit.

Gil:

I'm telling you if Obama did just take anything from him that Trump has done, they would be, oh my God, this is un-American blah, blah, blah, blah. It suddenly, they are, disgusted with the situation.

Eric:

Look at how they said that it was unAmerican and it was not okay to. For him to name a Supreme court justice nominee on an election year. Yeah. and there was like 11 months. Yeah. And then they rammed it through in five days. Correct. So the Republicans can kiss their own asses. They're not worthy enough to kiss mine. So and also find it funny that he's he was summoned to New York city. That's why he wasn't at Mar Lago when the raid happened. Correct. Because he was, had to give a deposition to the south Southern New York Southern district of New York for the Trump organization or Trump foundation, whatever it's called, where he was scamming people for cancer patients, he was scamming cancer patients. Let's call it what it was correct. So he had to give a deposition and he pled the fifth the entire time. Correct? Yes, he did. Which I mean, okay. That's fine. A lot of people do that, but it's funny to think again, we're talking irony. Yes. Where he is quoted and there's the videos out there when he's at one of his quote, unquote rally saying how mob people plead the fifth, and if you're not guilty, then there's no need to plead the fifth only guilty people plead the fifth and now he's pleading the fifth. Yeah.

Gil:

absolutely. It just it's, you can't make this shit up. Literally this is a PhD student. You watch your, your thesis or something, write about this, write about the, what the fuck happened to the United States between 2016 through now. Yeah, I, this is it's all here and this is the thing it's we all knew this back in 26. Yeah, during the 2016 election we all knew this. But yet people still voted and they're like, oh, what? What's the worst that could happen. But her emails, if I hear one more fucking person about that really I'd be, I'm just saying, yeah. Hillary was not like the greatest person, but let's be real it between the two. Yeah. You're in a two party system and you gotta pick one of the two really

Eric:

try. I still think we should not be in a two party system, but I know we are. I'm just saying we shouldn't

Gil:

be. Yeah, we are in one until it gets changed. You're in it like one or the other that some someone's gonna win and someone's gonna lose. Yeah. I still don't understand it. She is not the worst person we have out there. I'm sure we could pick someone else. Oh, I'm sure we can pick. Cause worse people have been elected I'm

Eric:

sure we can pick worse.

Gil:

Yeah. So I. I just, Ugh, it's disgusting. Like I said, the only people we have, but to blame it's ourselves, cuz this, we allowed it not you and I, we voted accordingly, but yeah. Yeah. Oh my goodness. Irony.

Eric:

I don't know. Yeah. The irony the hypocrisy. See, it's rather If I wasn't living in this country and it didn't affect me, I would think this would be actually entertaining in a really foul and fucked up way. Yeah. Now I just think it's foul and fucked up and it's actually angering and a little maddening. Yeah. Cause I'm tired of this whole, like where held to a different standard when did. The average American quote, unquote, start becoming held to a higher standard than the presidents.

Gil:

Yeah. So don't have an answer. And I don't know, I don't know which point in time it's the same thing. It's I you and I pay more taxes than billionaires. Yeah. We that's disgusting. It's a say, when we look at the candidate flow that we have how much money that is needed to be raised in order to even be competitive for name recognition, these Arent, your average Joe's in office that's effect, even our, for, everyone's oh, the founding fathers, they had money slave money. Let's be real. Let's call it what it is. They had money. Yeah. What poor person, even amongst the presidents, the closest to a normal person probably would be Jimmy Carter. Closest if we're talking about how much wealth that they actually have going in, that's it, we don't have it. That's been an average, Joe. There's no average Joe candidate either. Yeah. And then, if you're talking about going, to a non Ivy league, how many of the presidents there hasn't been, it's been very, I should say there's been very few who did not attend an Ivy league university.

Eric:

It's a Rigg system. Yeah. Very much is. Yeah,

Gil:

it is. And like I said, maybe it's rethink just, you're just thinking rethink how do we make it work for us? And that's what it is. How do we make I'm paying tax? You, myself, listeners of this podcast. If you're within the United States, we're paying taxe. Yes. Or giving money up to the government so that they're able to provide a service for us. It's not, it's a give and take. It's not like this is for free. They're not doing it rather the best of of our interest necessarily. So to, we expect more demand, more

Eric:

and then the IRS in itself is such a big scam because you, they know damn well, how much money you make. They're just making you fill out all this unnecessary paperwork. That way they can be like, Nope, you did that wrong. You owe us this much money and we're gonna penalize you for it now.

Gil:

Yeah. I find it hard to believe that they don't with the amount of technology that we have. And everything's digital. When was the last time you got a physical check? I don't get physical checks. It's all digital. Everything's electronic.

Eric:

I did get a PHY physical check from my last place of employment. Because she didn't offer direct deposit.

Gil:

Yeah. Everything is done electronically. Everyone files, yeah. Your paper. I just find it very hard to believe that they have no idea until you file. Yeah. What's your money? I don't know. I don't work for them, so I can't tell you, but I just find it hard to believe. No, I agree. Yeah. Oh my goodness. So we also have my good friend. Mr. Lindsay Graham. That's not up a bitch.

Eric:

Okay. Yeah. That's so let's talk, Lindsay Graham, I have go ahead and talk, Lindsay Graham Uhhuh. I might have quite a lot to offer to this, but let's go ahead and go.

Gil:

Something that came through and, everyone has an opinion about the recent, obviously we've talked Roe V Wade, and we're gonna keep talking about it until everyone gets it. Correct. But it's the same thing. And it's come up about the question to him was posed about marriage, about gay marriage, specifically and whether or not it should be a state issue or the federal. So right now you have Rob Portman from Ohio, Republican, from Ohio is trying to get it codified to get it codified. Okay. Codified, same sex marriage. Yeah, because of justice. Thomas obviously mentioning it about being potentially in jeopardy, his concurrent opinion. Correct. Now where something that obviously Lindsey Graham is in shit already. We all know that, but to him it's if it's, obviously like everyone who got voted in, not voted yeah. Into the Supreme court right now saying that they're gonna uphold the current law, the land. And he'd say, oh, we're gonna uphold it. But it was up to him. It should be a state to state issue. Yeah. Just like abortion. What's angering about this and maddening to me is that. First off, why are we even voting on my sit on my marriage? Instead of the federal go government's business, it shouldn't be at a state level either because it's impending on my right. My, my first amendment, it's the way that I would be arguing this it's I don't get

Eric:

it's right to life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Gil:

Yes. And that's the thing. I do not understand my, we didn't vote on a straight people's marriages. We don't vote on other things. Why was this one? One of 'em. So

Eric:

let's talk a little bit about this is a privilege thing and in some ways, because not in some ways in pretty much every way, it's a privilege for CIS hetero people to not have to worry about whether their rights are going to be voted on and decided every time there's an administration change. If you are a woman, a person of color or someone in the Q I a plus spectrum community for somebody with a disability, your rights are always on the table. So that's just something I had to throw out there.

Gil:

No, and it's true. It's just to me, this is just mad me. I just don't understand. And it's same thing that they use to use against minorities for as far back as you could possibly go. It's the it's separate but equal. Yeah. Is the way that it, what it was like some, like for instance, for people to backstory in this African Americans could not ride a railroad. For instance, they could not take the train but if they went to the Northern states, so as you cross that little imaginary border that we created you could. But then the next state get to get off and walk across the fucking state and they get back on and another state, that's not the way things should be working.

Eric:

No, not at all. And then you have people. Cause if you do take it to a state level, you have people like the, was it the attorney general? Paxton in Texas who is basically saying no, we should round them up and shoot. 'em talking about Q I a and okay. That's, look at what they've done with abortion. So that's not so far outta reach. He literally helped write that abortion bill. So now he's also saying yeah, give us the rights to make same sex marriage, same sex relationship, illegal take away. Lawrence V, Texas. That way we can take what's take away sodomy. And then that way gay sex is off the table. So same sex relationships are completely gone. And if the people are not abiding by that, it is illegal and we can take 'em out and shoot 'em. Yeah. that's what, that's why there's a problem with hav going back to the states again, people, and I know privacy is not, that's how, that's, how they overturn R VW, but people have that right to privacy. And as you've mentioned, many times it's interesting how the interracial marriage thing has not been brought up. Ha.

Gil:

A black justice, married to a white woman who tried to overthrow the government. That's one thing that they skipped. Yes. And that's the one thing that they skipped over. Huh? And he never recused himself either. Wasn't in privacy argued. Yes. No, he should have recused himself. And then it was argued that particular one was argued about the implication of privacy. Yep. So same thing. Why is that one exempt?

Eric:

Yeah. So I wanna go a little bit into this Lindsay Graham thing. And I know we've had a lot of talk on this podcast about outing people and I'm pretty much vehemently against outing. People, outing innocent people. Lindsay Graham, I don't consider an innocent person. And this has all been talked about for many. I don't many years it's been talked about for a few years. Yes. I wanted to read a few things. So guys bear with me, cause this is gonna be a little lengthy. Okay. This is not new news by any means, so I'm not necessarily outing anybody. But then again, let me preface that with saying, if you are actively trying to pass legislation that is homophobic and transphobic and you are actually gay yourself, then I don't have a problem without you because you are actively trying to harm my community. So let's start with who is lady G Ooh, Lindsay Graham is being accused of hiring gay sex workers. People are calling out the Republican Senator for his hypocritical treatment of the GT community. Senator Lindsay Graham Republican from South Carolina is being accused of hiring gay sex workers. Now people are calling him out for his hypocritical treatment of the LGBTQ community, adult film star. Sean Harding brought the accusations into the mainstream on June 4th. This is of 2020 writing on Twitter. There is a homophobic Republican Senator who is no better than Trump who keeps passing legislation that is damaging to the L G B T and minority communities. Every sex worker I know has been hired by this man. Oh, wondering if enough of us spoke out, if that could get him out of office, he all, but confirmed Graham's identity by referring to the Senator. In question as LG, there is reportedly only one us Senator with those initials and retweeting tweets that specifically named Lindsay Graham. I cannot do this alone. If you'd be willing to stand with me against LG, please let me know. Harding stated at least two others are willing to speak out fellow sex workers. I invite you to stand with me during this crucial time. Every major news network is in my inbox, including high profile lawyers with willing to take this case, their strength and numbers. He wrote who I know so many people who he's hired. One wrote in response. Lady G is a very open secret here in DC. With permission, Harding shared another claim made by a sex worker who alleged to be hired by Graham. The man said via his Twitter account, that he's not really willing to discuss 20 13, 20 14 adult services with journalists. At this point, I will not be crucified by our media alone. He added that he never signed an NDA after Graham was also accused of making some of the men. He hired signed non-disclosure agreements, who was lady G people began commenting on Graham, allegedly on how Graham allegedly likes to be referred to as lady G by the men. He hires. The claims have yet to be verified, but lady G and lady Graham began to trend on Twitter. So some are slamming the alleged outing of Graham. This is what we were just talking about, but others think the accusations are noteworthy considering the type of LGBTQ legislation, Graham supports and opposes discussing rumors about Graham sexuality, our fair game, given his anti L G B T record and support of a psychopath president. Yeah, let's celebrate at Lindsay Graham south Carolina's gayness, but shame the shit out of him for everything else. Okay. Being gay and insisting to be called. Lady G is the only cool thing about him. so I have another story that I, but we're gonna get your reaction to all of that. I definitely not

Gil:

shocked. In a sense of okay, another Republican Senator having some extra fun, extra marital fun. He not married.

Eric:

He's not married.

Gil:

He's single, just another Republican with another male. It's not shocking. Cause we've seen this story before.

Eric:

They say like when the Republican conventions are going on, like those sex workers make bank.

Gil:

Yeah. And that's the thing, it's the biggest hypocritical party. And that's the thing where it's not necessarily news. I don't think we're necessarily outta him per se when he's, I don't think we are going against our community. I

Eric:

mean, that is some high level intense internalized homophobia, correct? Look at Aaron shock. From Illinois. He was the house of representative, very anti L G B T. Guess what? He came out a few years later and was like seeing at like gay party shirtless and having fun. And at white parties slash circuit parties, and he's gay. He still considered considers himself like an ultra Republican and huge Trump supporter. But you are sitting here making and passing these laws that go against you, your community, all of us, because you're so uncomfortable with yourself. Society or your Christian society has made you hate and loathe yourself. So in order to deal with your own self hatred, and self-loathing, you are punishing everybody else because you can't deal with yourself and look at yourself in the mirror because you've been indoctrinated your whole life by this Christian society and Christian. World and community that you know, that it is wrong and it is evil and an abomination. And you're going to hell when really, if you were just given some sort of light and some sort of love and acceptance, then you probably wouldn't be such a big asshole. Yeah. Look at Madison coauthor, same thing. He was just

Gil:

guys doing guys,

Eric:

right? Just being, yeah. He was very anti LGBTQ and I was born doing pushups and blah, blah, blah. I'm a man I'm macho. I'm toxic masculinity. I'm male fragility all wrapped into one, but I'm gonna put in this big, huge macho man thing for you guys. And he got married. I think he got married before he was elected, but I think after, but he got engaged. After he ran, decided to run. That's not really important. Eight months after he got married when after, and he was then won his election, he got divorced. Yeah. And then like videos came out of him at like dry humping, his CU male cousin And then you have all these videos or things and pictures with Steven Smith, who I think coor is 26, 27. Steven Smith's 23, at least at the time. He's probably 24 now. Maybe not. Who was his companion.

Gil:

Oh.

Eric:

And went to all these places with him was always with him, lived with him, traveled with him, was getting payments from him that he wasn't documenting. And that's how all this stuff came to light and ven mowing him. and putting little notes oh, thank you for last night. Thank you for that time in Brussels. Thank you for when you did this to me. Thank you for going down on me, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. There's pictures of him with his hands on his crotch. So again, he gave him thousands of dollars in loans and gifts and never claimed it. So that's, there was an ethics complaint, which is why he got caught. But you look at that and that's fine. I don't care if you like get divorced because you realize that you were only doing that to put on a show and that's why you got married and you were trying to be accepted and you've realized and found your true, authentic voice and no, I am part of the LGBTQ community. That's fine. That's great. That's cool. Welcome. We'll give you a toaster. Cool. But when you're making these laws to punish us, because you have so much hatred and resentment towards yourself, I don't think you get that pass. Like a, you definitely don't get a toaster. Correct. You don't even get the burnt toast. You, I don't think it's shitty to out these people. And I know that sounds hypocritical of me, but when you are doing so much damage, it's okay with me that these possible and alleged truths are coming out. Correct? I have to say it that way so that we don't get hit with legalities. Yeah.

Gil:

but it's true though. We're calling out their policy choices. This is affecting a specific minority group. You just so happen to be them also? Yes. And I personally, I just don't get it when people vote against their own interest. It's like, when you see the women for Trump, really, this is the way you're gonna go. I, and I understand people, like I say, even within the LGBTQ IA community, we are problematic. We have within our group, we have our, are all racial breakdowns. We know that. Yes. And we have we, some of the stigmas against the fem part of, within a group. Yeah. Or, you

Eric:

know, we have a huge divide between yeah. How many more we have a huge divide between sexuality and gender identity. Correct. Because it's all put under the umbrella. Correct. But they're two very different parts, but one, one side, and to me it's more, the sexuality side does not accept the gender identity side as openly as they should. Okay. That's how I view it. I could be wrong, but I noticed that more of your CIS gay men Uhhuh call out what it is, have issues with the trans community. Yeah.

Gil:

And I think it's just a lack of understanding. Agreed. But there's no communication. It was between the groups. True. I would challenge you to, it's just within the racial part of the gay community. It's if I see, the same thing, all the advertisements to another white CIS passing gay male how many more Neil Patrick Harris fucking films do we need? Although I did like he more than just him. He's not the only gay guy out there. No, we have Matt Bower.

Eric:

We have Matt Bower and Cheyenne Jackson. Yeah,

Gil:

I just,

Eric:

I actually just really quickly, I did that show uncoupled. I did too.

Gil:

I actually enjoyed it. Yeah. I don't care for him, but I do like the film. I like his surrounding the supporting pass. Yeah. I

Eric:

love Tisha Campbell,

Gil:

right? Yes.

Eric:

I've loved her since house party. So I was very happy to see her on there. Agreed. So I, going back to this other thing we were talking about, I have this story to share about Lindsay Graham. I don't know if you want me to share it. I don't know if you want to just move on to another topic or if you want me to share this, just why not? I'm just gonna say, okay. You said, why not? So I will definitely share it. Once you hear this and visualize this, you can never unsee or unhea this again. So if you need to get your vomit buckets, I would suggest you get them. Now we will hold for you a few seconds. Hopefully you got your vomit buckets. Let's go into this sex worker who showed up and yep. It's right. So this is his recounting. When I came out the bathroom, he was on the bed naked on all fours. I noted that there were, I noted that there were dark marks around his anus. I asked if he had showered. He said, yes. I asked if it was okay. If I wiped him down, he said, sure, I, we a face towel and wiped between his buttocks, but nothing was coming off. Then I realized that his taint wasn't dirty. It was just full of moles. Dark moles, dense clusters up and down the length of his taint. Ah, he said, hope you don't mind. Those are just my little lady bugs. I ran out of there now. You know what I see in my mind, anytime he comes up on the news, any escort he's hired should be able to verify this. Thank you for listening.

Gil:

clutch the pearls.

Eric:

you can't unhea or unsee it like

Gil:

No, the visual's coming in strong. I was like, oh,

Eric:

we will, you, we will hold a few seconds. If you need to throw up listeners. That was just way too much for me. I heard about this a few months back and I was. Oh my God. So I guess I've been sitting on that little story for a while, but I've been, I was traumatized then, and I'm traumatized reading it now. Oh my

Gil:

God. I need a wet wipe for my brain. It's all. What the hell just

Eric:

happened? I need bleach for my brain.

Gil:

Oh my God. You are brave to read that to us. Thank you, Eric

Eric:

is brave or is it just stupid?

Gil:

Just. With that party and just what else can he throw at us? And just when he thought you hit rock bottom, da one more floor end up

Eric:

dropping. I can't even get that visual out my head now. Like I'm so gross out. I'm gonna be traumatized for at least the next week or so. Oh my God. I have a hard time even looking at lady bugs now because he calls them his little lady bugs.

Gil:

That's terrifying. What the fuck? Trying to be like cute. No, not cute. You gross, but if that's your thing, go for it.

Eric:

That's your thing. Go for it. That's fine. But yeah, I don't wanna know about him that much, but since I do now, you all do too. Yeah. I'm probably gonna get a lot of hate for this.

Gil:

It's okay.

Eric:

No more than we got from our last episode though. Oh,

Gil:

I'm sure. Yes. Yeah. So what happened with that?

Eric:

Interestingly enough, I didn't get stung by a B, but I did wake up with mosquito bites this morning, which is the day that the episode dropped. So I think the bees may have sent the mosquitoes out first, and then I'll probably walk into a hive that's built inside my car or something really I will say though, like she changed a lot of stuff for her album. She dropped the Kelis sample. Kelis is being dragged again by the hive and KELIS basically told them to fuck off and that yeah, she was happy that that action was taken and everything else. She did drop a remix to was that break my soul? Yes. And. I like the song break my soul anyways. I like the remix. I don't like the beginning though, where she's doing her stuff. It just doesn't go with the Vogue with the backtrack of Vogue But other than that, I do like the remix. I think it's funny that it's featuring Madonna, but it's literally just Vogue. It's not like Madonna recorded a depart for anything. No, but at least, Hey, at least she's learned that she has to do it that way. I like that she paid homage to a lot of the black female artists that came before her and made it possible for her to be where she's at. And I love the fact that she paid tribute to all the houses of the ballroom scene. I shouldn't say all the houses, but a lot of the houses and the bigger named houses of the ballroom scene. I don't know why I'm making a heart with my hand. I thought that was really cool and important. Cuz if you are gonna say Hey, this is going to be a tribute to the LGBTQ community. Even if it, as Gil says, is an album full of covers at least be respectful and pay tribute to all aspects. So I do applaud her for that. I applaud her for paying homage mainly to the houses. Of course I was happy that she mentioned Janet, but and anyone else that she mentioned. But I, yeah, I liked that. That's all, I that's the only update I really have on that story. I may have the episode just dropped today cuz we record like a week out. So we may get more. We may get dragged more for it in the coming week when people actually have a chance to listen to it. If people want to listen to it, people may have heated our warning and turned it off or put, press pause. I mean we put a few warnings out there, so

Gil:

yes we're courteous. If nothing else you probably heard us through the back channels made the updates to the album. So now that our episode is outdated yeah,

Eric:

pretty much that episode that's obsolete. Now it is in some ways. Yeah. Some of it's not though. Some of it's still true. Yeah. So you can use it as an archive though, because oh yeah, that's true. This was the original version and we commented on the original and then it had to be changed shortly after. So you can archive us to be like, oh, there was an original. So we are now proof of another version existing prior to what people are gonna be able to mass massively consume.

Gil:

Now it, it amazes me personally is that they can audit or, completely change the song in an instant. Wipe it off the face of the planet. It's oh no, it never happened. This is the real wa listen to that. Yeah. And we're like, no, this is not the version. And that's like the sucky part about having everything. So digital versus the physical evidence that you would have back in the old days. Yeah. Of having a CD or vinyl or something like you can't just edit that shit. It. it was what it was. You fucked up that's what's going on. Yeah. And it, just, to me, just it's fascinates me with that because even songs that I have personally uploaded from, I see to my computer and then a computer for apple has found a version of it. it's on my original version that I had of certain songs have deleted. And now these new updated versions of them different, it sounds a little off cuz I've, played the songs a billion times. I know how they should sound. Now they're audited to sound different. It's some of them actually mirrored, let's say for this Lady Gaga Judas. One of my favorite songs from Gaga, I have the original CD version. I know how the rhythm, the beat and all that, and suddenly hear this new one. It's oh, this is more like the music video. And it is the original,

Eric:

the same thing happened to me with Sia chandelier. Okay. I ended up getting some weird remix version, Uhhuh and I was like, I never heard chandelier like this. And the first couple times I was like a little what is this? And then after that I really got into it. And then all of a sudden there was like this update. Yes. And then that version was wiped out and it went back to the original version

Gil:

and if it never happened. Yeah.

Eric:

And then I also have I don't know if, I don't know if you are old enough to remember this. The, not tonight ladies night remix with Lil Kim and Lisa left. I Lopez and Missy Elliot was a Hugh Angie Martinez. It bra it was like this huge, like super power group of like female MCs. Amazing. If you guys don't know it, you, I forgot what movie it went to. It was a Tim Robbins, Martin Lawrence movie. Go listen to the, not tonight. Ladies re ladies night remix. Okay. It's an amazing song. It's like one of the best female hip hop songs ever. At least in my opinion. I don't know what if my opinion me holds anyway, but so I had the regular single version for a long time on CD but it's like the clean version. Okay. So then I ended up getting the unedited version or the UN uncensored version and they're both good, but of course I like the curse words. Yeah. So I listen to in its purest form. Then when I had to bring everything over to my, to apple music, the just from like my iTunes into apple music and everything, it gave me the clean version Now, if I go into my actual iTunes Uhhuh, the original uncensored version is still there still very part of my library. But it is no, I can't access it on my iPhone. It's only the clean version, which, like I said, I still like that version, but it's not the same. Correct. And I had a bunch of issues migrating over to apple anyways, because I have a lot of music that you can't find anywhere. Like I have Jordanian hip hop in Israeli, hip hop and Egyptian pop and Egyptian funk, and a lot of middle Eastern experimental music and just middle Asian music in general, being that I was a belly dancer for many parts of my life, many years of my life. So I was like, I need my music, cuz I will never be able to find this music again. Correct. And it took a long time to bring it over and I still, some of it ended up transferring over with like weird alpha, new alpha numeric codes. And it's, and I'm not saying like it's not different language style. It's like AF KJ, like what track is that? Like I have some Turkish pop where I'm like, I know the song, but I it's not that. And so that was just interesting and how that happens.

Gil:

I know I've. It's affected some of my stuff where like I purchased certain songs, like Jesse from Ivri Lider back in what, 2000? Oh, I love that song six. Yeah. And I bought it, I physically bought this off of iTunes, but because suddenly iTunes doesn't have it anymore. My song just I could still play it on my computer, but I can't up, it can't be part of the cloud or whatever to physically go to my phone or to my my iPad or anything like that. Exception is just the physical computer that I have it on. And I'm like, I don't understand. I'm like, I bought this from you guys and how it's this not transferable now, but it's just I don't like some of the, I have it on my there's yours. Yeah. Cuz mine will not play. And I,

Eric:

I just pulled up, I just pulled it up on my library and it shows Jesse's song by Ivri Lider

Gil:

Ivri Lider. Yeah. I have it on my computer. My MacBook, but not, but

Eric:

I'm on my I'm on my iPhone.

Gil:

You are? Yeah. I could have pulled it at all for mine.

Eric:

Wow. You know what I love. I love his, I can, and I can't find it. If you have it, please send it to me. His version of, I kissed a girl.

Gil:

Oh, I know. You're talking about how was a good remix cover? Oh yeah. Cover. Oh yeah. It's a cover. Why is that? He re okay.

Eric:

He pulled a Beyonce. he covered the song. I'm just kidding.

Gil:

Yeah. No, that was a good one.

Eric:

I love that song. I read lighters. Awesome. He's a father now. Oh, is he? Oh, good. Yeah. So let's talk a little bit. Let's talk about. Going back to politics. I know everyone's favorite topic. Sorry, but we did just pass the inflation reduction act. Yes. Surprisingly Manchin and Sinema were involved. Now what made me mad is who is the parliamentarian. Like I never heard of that position until this administration and they can't do anything now because a parliamentarian says, oh, that goes against the Senate rules. So they wouldn't let them cap insulin costs for private insurance only for Medicare. I know that's bullshit, but other than that, they did pass that. I wanna give them some props on that. I, cuz I've been pretty harsh on Joe Biden and saying he hasn't done much. I've also been very harsh on merit Garland saying he hasn't done much, but I've come to learn that he's just very silent and make sure that he makes sure that every duck is in a line and every T is crossed and I is dotted before he takes any type of action. Yeah. And I thank him very much for going after those asshole at cops who killed and murdered Breonna Taylor.

Gil:

Yes. I'm glad with the administration was able to push it through in their way, like at least get to that 50 50 tie so that yeah, you're able to actually use the VP. I,

Eric:

I have a question for you though. I do have a question for you. So there's two independent party senators. So technically wouldn't the Democrats only have 48 seats, correct? They do. And the Republicans have 50 seats. Yes. So shouldn't, they honestly, I'm glad they're not in the majority, but shouldn't they be technically in the majority? Yes.

Gil:

Okay. Yeah.

Eric:

I hope I didn't give them any type of pool to be like, we're gonna change this role now.

Gil:

No, because they are it's not 50 Democrats.

Eric:

So how come it's viewed as a 50 50?

Gil:

Because we have the sitting president in the house, that we have the sitting president and your tie break. With assuming you have the two independents that go Democrat, your tiebreaker is gonna be the no,

Eric:

I no. I understand the tiebreaker. I understand that Kamala Harris is a tiebreaker because it's a 50 50 split, but it's not actually a 50, 50 split. It's a 50 to 48 split with two independents.

Gil:

It's it goes to the, I

Eric:

know they usually vote on the side of the Democrats, but they are not Democrats.

Gil:

Yeah. But because they consider it, the Republicans lost seat on the last election cycle, because they have the outright majority because at a 50, 50 split, or even this 1 50, 48, they, you have to have the actual over 50. What? So be 51. You have the control. Okay. Okay. Of 50 50 is not, or even at 50 48. Okay. So that's why, but because the Democrats, if assuming the two independents fell with us, which they normally do, then we have, because of the VPB Democrat would have it, if it, does that make sense?

Eric:

No. Yeah. As soon as you said that, because they don't have the 51, it made total sense to me.

Gil:

Yeah. So that's why it's considered a, in the Democrats favor even though technically. Okay.

Eric:

No, that makes sense to me. Thank you. Thank you for schooling me on

Gil:

that. No. That's

Eric:

what it was. Yeah, no I was genuinely curious. Yeah. So yeah, I know they pass through the reconciliation option, correct. I still find it funny how the Republicans were able to use everything through a nuclear and reconciliation option with no issues whatsoever. But I know Manchin and Sinema have made it really hard to do anything cuz of the filibuster shit. And I know that this inflation reduction act. Fell within the parameters to be voted on through reconciliation rather than having to go through the 60 majority. But I still don't understand where this parliamentarian comes in and how come you can be like, oh, that doesn't fit. What's supposed to be in there. So we're gonna take that capping by for private insurances off because we need to let the private insurances make even more money because they're not rich enough because the American insurance. World is not a scam. Yes, it is.

Gil:

Yeah. I think it's just because you have to think about with Medicaid, Medicare, all of those are federally funded government. Those are government entities, something they own in comparison to any of the private, the what say like United healthcare, your Aetna's, your blue cross and whatnot. Those are all gonna be independent capital, under the capitalist umbrella. Okay. So that's where I think, unfortunately, in order to get this through, you're not quite there yet, but anything like that would fall under what does the government directly able control or they're ownership. That's why they're able to do with, do we agree? No, absolutely not. There should be a cap, it's at the same time, it's okay, let's at least cap a, we, what we do can control. And that would be that okay. In comparison, not that it's.

Eric:

But do you know who the parliamentarian is and has this role been around for a long time?

Gil:

Yeah, I actually don't know. I actually, when you start tell I'm like the, who ha where, okay. No, I actually, I don't know. I don't know if it's something that's created just to keep things in check to make sure what can we push through? What's worth fighting for, and what's not, what can we do to help

Eric:

McConnell out

Gil:

more shit. I know. And that's the thing it's at what point is the Democrats gonna decide this, enough is enough? I'm glad that, something is enough is enough.

Eric:

sorry. That was Agra thing. I had to just do it. I loved Karen. Go ahead. Sorry. I did not mean to cut

Gil:

that's my favorite. No. I was just it, just to myself, I'm just thinking like with Biden, we knew he was gonna be, his goal was to, reach across the aisle and do whatever he could. But at some point, when do we just say, we need, get this shit going. Yeah, he has, grant, he has gone, there has been stuff they're getting passed through the houses and stuff. They're getting pushed through as much as you get through the Senate. It's not that they aren't doing it, but at the same time, it's yeah, that's

Eric:

enough. And I will fully admit I've been critical. I've been very critical on a lot of things, but I also realize, especially in the Senate, because it's a 50, 50, like it's not a true majority. No. So the Republicans are, what's it disabling the ability to pass anything, correct. For the most part, they are like, other than like things like this where they can roll through reconciliation. It's been

Gil:

for 14 years.

Eric:

No, I get that. That's why like, when people are like they have the majority and they still haven't done anything they don't really have the true majority. So let's like give them the full majority and bolt the house Senate. And of course the executive branch and hold their feet to the fire to make sure they get shit done. Correct. And hold them to their words so that they can no longer hide behind the excuse of we don't have a true majority. Okay, cool. Let's give you the full majority, and make sure that you do the shit you said you're gonna do. Correct. So that's what I think needs to,

Gil:

and I think that's why I'm not gonna lie. I'm on the opposite spectrum with you with I am not as critical with Biden to me, just keep floating, keep, tread water as best you can. I was critical under Obama's first administration when he had the super majority in both house, the, and the Senate. And the only thing we could get through was the one, during the Obamacare, that's what we pushed through

Eric:

and everything. It was a bastardized version of what he really wanted. Cause he almost basically wanted like a health, a healthcare for all

Gil:

Medicare for all that's 60 democratic senators. And that's the one I could not in my

Eric:

mind, but the medical system in that big pharma are in their back pocket.

Gil:

He could have pushed other things through and just Ramed it for two years

Eric:

and he could have codified R V w any of it. Yeah. I would say LGBTQ rights, but he wasn't even on board with that until like his, no, he was

Gil:

not. And that's the thing is that, like I don't get me wrong I still love Obama, but I was pissed off very pissed off about that. Cause I'm like, this is the only thing we're pushing through with this majority. And you think the Republicans are not gonna go after you? Yeah, really? I don't know. I would, to me, the way I looked at it is they're gonna block you. Because you're black, let's call it what it is. Absolutely. And let's like, get your stuff, get your entire, you had the everything set up for you, push

Eric:

through, get your shit and get it done.

Gil:

so that's why I, that pissed me off. And that's why with Biden, it was like, I knew he was gonna be screwed. It's how much can it get to me? He's done when he could it. It's not, it has not gotten any worse. And I, I guess that's a sad base now. That's a

Eric:

really sad

Gil:

bar. It's a sad bar to think about. But let's

Eric:

be when that's your ceiling that it hasn't gotten any worse. Yeah.

Gil:

I'm like it didn't, they haven't really necessarily, but it has, but but that's residual from

Eric:

the previous administration. I will say though. Yeah. Where we were before at the last admin and if he was still there, oh, I would be in a concentration camp right now. Literally.

Gil:

Yeah. So that's just, if I just, I'm just curious what 20, 24 is gonna look like. The midterms are gonna be interesting for November, but also they are gonna be interesting the 20, 24 presidential cycle, what's that gonna look like?

Eric:

Then with all the gerrymandering too, like they've been able through the state houses, they've been able to basically guarantee the house to the Republicans because all these states of gerrymandered the crap, our districts, and that's the, so they'll understand how a minority party of what, like 26% of the population has all this power.

Gil:

And, maybe it's a question of, do we start gerrymandering the blue states and you just eliminate and wipe like California, just completely wipe out any of the red counties, make it a 58 there's 58 counties in California, just make 'em all blue average that go on with the representatives blue. Yeah. Split LA county to 20 there's enough people there. Yeah, there is. We could gerrymandering as well. My, have you seen the street in the San

Eric:

Francisco, then you need to get on that and have that done. I

Gil:

don't know. Maybe you just start rethinking the way we do it. We could play I'm at this. I don't know. I'm this point in my age where I'm just like in my life with this, it's just there's no even ground there's no, this let's be nice. Let's play, those days are done that were referring to the fifties and sixties. Yeah. When the parties were more willing to work together and Republicans were less invasive about, what to say, all American family look like in comparison to now, like I said, they're all about small government. Why the fuck do you care about who I sleep with? Some of your damn business. True that you already guess said used to be part of their platform. I don't even what to stand for right now. I couldn't tell you,

Eric:

I wouldn't know either other than to make people's lives hell. And to push their Christianity on us. So did you hear that inflation has gone down, went down in the month of July. So from June at 9.1% in July, it was 8.5%, which is still really high. Yes. But it has gone down. Yes. And that's a pretty, a 0.6% fall, I think is pretty significant in a month's time. Gas has gone down tremendously.

Gil:

Yes. That's starting to go down a little bit here. Wow.

Eric:

I think it went down like 40 to 50 cents here.

Gil:

Yeah. I think we fell almost a complete dollar. Granted we're still paying

Eric:

like $17. I'm like we're paying 3 49 here. Huh?

Gil:

Yeah. Fuck. I think I filled up right. Cause I had to pay premium gas right now at five. What are we at? 5 99, 5 89. Okay. So the cheap gas right there is like at five 40 something. Okay.

Eric:

So I don't have to get super high end gas and I have a hybrid. So

Gil:

that's good. Yeah, no, I have my little mini here. pizza, a premium

Eric:

gas. You have a mini though, like I have a Honda. Yeah. So

Gil:

German engine yeah. Yeah. It's wonderful. Except for the gas part. I'm like, God dam it. A

Eric:

German engine can make me pur night. Yeah.

Gil:

oh, we digress. But yes, no, that's good thing. That's good news about inflation. Cause I know we've talked it up. I've heard people like, cause everyone already knows on this podcast, I'm in retail. So I hear firsthand all the time. When I was here last week, this is how much it caused and blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, yeah, no shit. It costs half this in 1984 big deal. Come on now. I was expect intending on buying it at this price. So what I was intending to be 40 pounds lighter it's

Eric:

interesting too, cuz there's a lot of the service industry. People never expect certain things to go up in price. So I people know that like I've been grooming dogs for since, for a while. Yes. People expect to be paying the same price for grooming their dogs that they paid like 15 and 20 years ago. And no, like I'm at the point in my life where I am not going to kill myself to make a dollar. yeah, I am going to work smarter and not harder. Yeah. And people do not pay that respect. They're like, oh, I don't pay this much for my own hair. Your dog has five times the hair that you do. Yes. And your barber's not shaving your ass and shaving your genitals and clipping your nails. And if you have laser ticks, which most dogs that I touched do not have bugs on them. They're not doing all that stuff. They're not spending an extra 30, 40 minutes getting all the tangles out of your hair because you don't comb your own hair. Correct. But people expect to be like, oh, I should only be paying $30 for this dog. I'm like, no, that dog is like a 75 $80. Easily.

Gil:

Yeah. And it should be that's and

Eric:

that's just to start for a small dog where I'm at larger dogs are like 1 20, 1 30 and up for basic haircuts. If you want something flashy, then you hate for it? Sorry. I had to just throw that out there.

Gil:

No, but it's true. Even within men's haircut, like I could go to a $20 barber. I could go up to my next boujee window that serves drinks and all that for 60

Eric:

bucks. I miss having hair and being able to indulge in all that. I just shaved my own head now.

Gil:

Yeah. With my cuz my grows really fast. I need to get a haircut at least minimum three weeks. It was like, yeah, pretty much every three to four weeks. I'm out there getting my haircut and I used to

Eric:

be at that when I had hair.

Gil:

Now it's more you're like

Eric:

now I'm S so I just shave all the down. Although right now, I've got a little bit more than peach fuzz because I'm letting it grow so that when I, cause I'm going on vacation in two weeks, I can just like really shave it down and it'll be like super, super smooth.

Gil:

Where are you heading to? I'm going

Eric:

to Las Vegas

Gil:

or a week. Oh, you're gonna have fun. Any shows or anything you're gonna be watching or,

Eric:

I am hopefully gonna go see Curtis, who is on our show twice. Yes, he is in zombie burlesque at planet Hollywood, which is happens to be where I'm also staying. So I'm gonna hopefully go see him. I have another good friend that I'm gonna go sit Margarita's at her pool and then go have dinner and whatever else I'm actually going for a convention. So it's not actually a vacation. Okay. I'm going for a convention. So that's why I'll be in Vegas. Which I love Vegas. Vegas makes me happy. Although I will fully admit I'm very hesitant to go. because I'll like, I have to be, I'll be masked up everywhere I go. But like I used to I usually go to clubs and go dancing when I'm in Vegas and oh yeah. I can't wear a mask when I go dancing because I just, I sweat so much that it becomes like I'm waterboarding myself. yes. And so I have I have to be cautious of COVID and now monkeypox, and I wanted to Hore it up a little bit. out there, but now I can't. But yeah, that's, I'm going to Vegas in a couple. Oh, you're gonna have fun. Okay. So yeah. Oh yeah. I'll have fun. I love Vegas, as I don't know if our listeners know, they may know this is like a complete peaceful Zen. Experience for me. Like I am at such peace when I'm in Vegas. I just, everything about Vegas makes me happy. It calms me down. I just feel enlightened and I could float I'm also not a big gambler. Yeah.

Gil:

I'm with you on the non gambling part. That's why I'm always curious. What are you gonna do? And for me, it's I just do shows, go out, eat.

Eric:

I go to shows. I go to all the malls and all the stores that I can't afford.

Gil:

they have great

Eric:

shopping there. They do. I have amazing shopping there and I go to shows a lot, as you said, I will gamble a little bit just for the experience of it or whatever. It is fun. I don't drink much either. So there's that, but. You do get free drinks while you're gambling. So that's always nice if that's your thing. Yeah. But I'm also not a big drinker. So

Gil:

I, I laugh base sister, actually. She and I were talking about it cuz we're up in like the Reno area and she like, she likes to do that where she'll play a game or like a slot machine, 20 bucks while she shall stretch it out. Yeah. So she could drink

Eric:

yeah. Why you go to penny slots? How's brilliant. Go to penny slots. They'll be there for days. Yeah. And she's only she's now the only thing is though, was that a lot of times they don't come around as often to the penny slots because there's really no money there, but I'm like, I just want the free drinks. I promise you. I will tip you way better than the person who was playing blackjack over there. Yeah. Or the person that's at the $10 slots. I will tip you better. That's

Gil:

true. You have put people through school, through your tipping.

Eric:

I have and now I have no money myself, but at least they got through school and they're now multimillionaires. Yes.

Gil:

You're gonna have a great time. That sounds like fun though. Vegas is Vegas. I need to go. Great.

Eric:

You and I have never been to Vegas together. No,

Gil:

we have not. Surprisingly. We've been to Colorado.

Eric:

Yes. A few times. Yeah. But we have knock

Gil:

on to Vegas,

Eric:

Vegas and Palm Springs. I think we need to go to,

Gil:

I should go. Have you ever palms? No, I have not. I was like, oh, it's a desert. I like going to hot areas.

Eric:

I like Palm Springs. I don't know. I've only been there once, but it was fun. Okay. I went there for a sex party. It was fun.

Gil:

Yeah. I just haven't. I know I need to go. I just, yeah. I'm like, oh, I'm gonna fly to the desert. Okay. Here we go.

Eric:

It's fun. I would totally retire there if I had the money too.

Gil:

That would be the goal. Save up where I

Eric:

Absolutely.

Gil:

Yeah. I haven't been to Vegas since I turned 21. So when I went to Vegas, no, so this is what happened. I went there 14 days before my birthday for a wedding. And not that we were drinking under rage, supposedly. But after that I was like, oh, I'll return to Vegas. Now I'm gonna be turning 21 Woohoo. Back in oh seven. And I went one other time with Chris and it was just on our way driving through to Albuquerque. We drove her a little tiny, smart car size vehicle from bay to Albuquerque back. We stopped with a friend in Vegas, but it was literally overnight. Got dinner and it left, but we didn't get to do it up. Oh, wow. Yeah. And that's it. That's the only time I've been through Vegas

Eric:

and you need to go back to Vegas. Yeah. Vegas is where it's at.

Gil:

Yeah. So I'll make it one of these. I'm gonna be 65 at this rate.

Eric:

that's okay. You've traveled way more than I have. And when I'm 65, I'll be like, I'm finally getting out of the country. if my passport's still good by then,

Gil:

shit, we might be in another country by then. yeah,

Eric:

that's true too.

Gil:

Shoot hands made tale. Here we go. very much. It's sad, but true.

Eric:

craziness crazy times. Hopefully it gets better from here. Hopefully this last power grab is falling. Oh, and on that note, I, we bid you a do thank you so much for joining us this week and we will be back next week to chatter in your ears. Some more. Thank you. Bye.

Gil:

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Eric:

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