Nov. 16, 2022

Season 4, Episode 16

Season 4, Episode 16

Gil and Eric discuss hot topics and the midterms

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Eric:

Hello and welcome to the Q lounge, I'm Eric

Gil:

and I'm Gil.

Eric:

join us as we discuss news stories and life situations, as they relate to the LGBTQIA plus experience, please visit us at theQloungepodcast.com and hit that subscribe button or listen wherever you get your podcasts. If you would like to follow us on social media, you can hit us up on Facebook @theQloungepodcast or on Instagram or Twitter @theQlounge. Hello and welcome to the Q Lounge. I'm Eric.

Gil:

And I'm Gil.

Eric:

Thank you guys for joining us. Again. We owe you another apology for not dropping an episode last week. Again, schedules get a little crazy sometimes, especially around the holiday season, and we just couldn't make our schedules meet up last week. So sorry again. But other than that, we hope everyone is well, and we thank you so much for joining us. How are you doing, Gill?

Gil:

Oh, emotionally recovering right now. I don't know where I'm at. we'll get into that. Yeah, definitely. How are you holding up?

Eric:

I'm doing okay. honestly, actually I'm doing very well personally. I'm in a good space right now emotionally. Doing a lot of self work and stuff like that, which we can get into and in another episode. But overall, and I'm doing really good. anxiety's running a little high right now, the last day or two? Yes. If

Gil:

we'll get into that. I'm sure this will drop after

Eric:

Yeah. This will, this episode will drop after and everything will be like known and everything else. We're gonna be like a week late, but That's okay.

Gil:

It's okay. We're here. We're here. That's the fact

Eric:

So just everyone just take some of the stuff we're gonna say. I don't wanna say light er with a grain of salt, but just know that we're recording this a week before it drops. So things will probably change a lot between the recording of this episode. And when it actually drops. Yeah. There's no way about it. That's what happens when you record a podcast.

Gil:

especially about current events. Especially

Eric:

about current events and some of the stuff that we're, we might talk about might be a little dated, but it's still good to know. So yeah. Yeah. Let's start off a little light. yeah, we'll start off a little light. So we had Taylor Swift drop an album a couple weeks ago. Oh yes. She dropped her album Midnights and she broke Spotify. Yes, she did. And she was, she's now the first artist who have, all 10 slots of the top 10 on the Billboard 100. All her own music So good for her. she's going on tour soon. Yes. And she has a bunch of LGBTQ acts as opening acts for her.

Gil:

Oh, great. So

Eric:

yeah, she is set to be supporting Acts or Phoebe Bridgers girl in Red and Mona, or all set to be supporting acts for her. I think that's pretty awesome.

Gil:

That is. I remember she had a vinyl collection and then I guess if you collect the vinyls, then they make an image or something like that. And we sold out a it at my location within I think four days. Oh, wow. Completely sold out. Yeah. Cool. So it was pretty cool. Yeah. I still personally have not listened to the album. Have

Eric:

you? I have not listened to the album either. I did download it. Okay. I've heard a couple songs from it. Okay. Snow on the Beach. That's the name of it she mentioned. She mentioned she, it's with Lana Delray, but they mentioned Janet. Oh. So of course I've heard that. And there's clips online of Janet listening to it and listening to that part, Uhhuh. And then she tweeted at, Taylor Swift. that clip of her listening to it and said that she loved it. And then Taylor Swift responded with, Oh my God, I think I can die now. this is the greatest thing that ever happened to me. I look up to you so much. You've done so much for women in music and Yeah, women in general. And I was like, Oh my God. At least she's paying homage to the Queen. yeah, But no, I think it's really cool. I. I know some people really hate Taylor Swift and some people really love Taylor Swift. She's still a powerhouse and she's very advocative of the GT Q I community. She is a great ally. She puts from anywhere her mouth is. She started speaking openly about politics and just the fact to say it's not cool what we're doing to this community and we need to be there for them. She actually hired Model Lathe Ashley as her love interest in her first video from this album, and he is a trans model, so Oh,

Gil:

that's awesome. That's amazing. That's a great way, Yeah.

Eric:

Yeah. I know there's a little bit of controversy over it because he's very beautiful and he's very cis passings or whatever they wanna say. I don't know. But I still think it's awesome cuz it's still representation. Correct. And as we, we discuss many times representation. It's very important.

Gil:

Yeah. It's bad. I don't care how it, I don't know, gets done. it's representation. Yeah. do you rather have a stereotype? Is that what we're seeking? Cause you always get that slur. Oh, but they don't look trans enough. They don't look gay enough. They don't What is that supposed to mean? the hell does that mean Exactly?

Eric:

Yeah. It's You have

Gil:

to be gay. Gay. Yeah. You have to be over at the top. Oh my God. Yes. Girl. Black. Black. No.

Eric:

And then, let's see, Kit Connor from, Heart Stopper. He came out as bi as a kid. Yeah.

Gil:

Huh? You saw that? I was gonna say he was more forced. Yeah. More than anything.

Eric:

Yeah. no, I was just gonna go into that. he came out as bi, but he was more forced and then, Tweeted back for a minute, I'm by congrats for forcing an 18 year old to out himself. So I wanna have a little bit of discussion on this. and I think you and I are gonna fall in this. I'm sure I'm like 99.998% sure we'll fall in the exact same category. But I find it interesting because he's in a show that is about the LGBTQ community, Uhhuh, and it just, it shows you where society is, where even being in a show about the community, you still, there's still a fear of coming out yourself. And I think that's really interesting. I, again, under no, the exception of like people like Lindsay Graham and Aaron Shook and stuff like that. I still don't think you should ever out anybody. I don't think people should be forced to be outed or to out themselves. re Rebel Wilson, who actually just had a baby yesterday. Oh. Through surrogate. Through Surrogate. was forced to out herself. Yeah. Or blackmail to out herself. So like Kit Connor, I feel bad for the fact that he was forced to out himself. Correct. I do find it interesting though that he's in a show about LGBTQ and he still felt like he needed to keep, that he couldn't be out. Does that make sense? That makes sense. But like Alexandra Ship from Love Simon who played Abby, she just recently came out was it like a year or two ago? I know we covered it on the podcast at some point. Mentioned it. and again, she was in Love, Simon, which was an LGBTQ film, first major produced film that went to like mainstream theaters. Correct. So it, it's just interesting to see that you can advocate for a community and still feel scared to be part of the community. And, I can speak for that too cuz as much as I've been a big part of the LGBTQ community for a long time, I still, even though I was probably like in the heart of it, I kept myself on the fringes of it cuz I was like, Oh no. Like I support everybody here, but I'm not part of this community. But I really was. Correct.

Gil:

Yeah, no, it's true. It's, I don't think it's ever, it's not easy anyways because it's oh my God, how stereotypical a gay guy playing a gay guy or a bi guy playing a gay guy. in a TV show. Yeah. Or something like that. Or you don't wanna be typecast also where he might be limiting his roles, but at the same time, it's, we don't have to out every person. It's not like every actor or actress has to announce that they're straight. Oh, I, that's not part of your credentials. We don't care. It's can you do the job or not? can you move the audience? And I think it's just really, especially with the newer generation, I feel like it's none of our damn business. It's really where they come from. I agree.

Eric:

But then it takes you back into the discussion of should heterosexuals be playing the LGBTQ roles and movies? And I, I understand that like you are looking at the acting ability and their ability to deliver. The film and the part, and I know we had a very lengthy discussion with Rob Williams when he was on, who was a director of many LGBTQ themed movies. Correct. And books. And even he stated that sometimes you need that name to get the people into the seats so that the story can be told. Yeah. And be consumed by the masses. So I see that point too. Like I really see that point of view, but then I also sometimes see that you're like, you don't understand what this was like because you'll never have to go through this. And I understand Yeah. Someone who's actually lived from that experience and can draw from that experience, can tell the story in a better way. Correct. So

Gil:

I don't know. For me, I think the acting is part of it. But I think it has to also go down to the writers. If the writers aren't from it, they're then, they're the ones creating the story. They're the ones creating the, whatever illusion or stereotypical thing that we're trying to uphold. I think it also comes down to some of the writing, the producers, some of the people like that. Also, it's not so much just the No, I agree with that

Eric:

too. Yeah, they're actresses are a part of it. I think it's important to have your writer's room that has people from all walks of life in all different experiences, or at least what

Gil:

they're

Eric:

trying to talk. So like I think it's important to have a writer's room with people of color in many different ethnicities and races. And I think it's important nationalities. I think it's important to have people from all walks of white people that are like from the hetero experience and the LGBTQ experience. And again, I'm not trying to bring up love Victor every single chance I get, but I know cause, But there was controversy a lot because Michael Cimino identifies as straight and so does George Sear. Yeah. And Anthony Keyvan. And people were like, Oh, it's a cute show. It's a good show. I really enjoy it. But it's like they're queer baiting or gay baiting, or however you wanna state it. because they're, they don't understand the experience. I'm like, I get that. But then you have to look at the show runners and the writers and they were part of the community, or are part of the community. So they were able to at least instill that knowledge and they could have discussions with people who were part of the community. And I know Michael Cimino talked about that in interviews, how he talked very much about, with like his cousin and. Other people about their experiences. he did his homework, but

Gil:

I just don't think we're there yet from a name recognition as a community to necessarily star or we have our own thing. It's most we don't quite, we're not there yet in time. Yes. Yes. In 40, I hope in 20 years from now, you and I are not talking about this, where it's more Oh my God, look how many actors and actresses we have and they're starting in little big films and as whatever. Yeah. Then yeah, there should be some change. Like we have to think about like under 20 years ago, Will and Grace debuted and then before then that was groundbreaking. Yes. Now we can look at it or Oh my God, it was so problematic. There's so many, but from, you have to think about the Quantum Leap from 1998 to. No, and

Eric:

that's true in the community. Cause like I had just put things in perspective. Like I had a conversation with a friend of mine cause we were talking about Will and Grace actually, and it is a problematic show in some ways. I still enjoy the show greatly and I laugh every time I watch it. Not nec, not necessarily the reboot, but like the original of it Blood. Yeah. it's just like friends too. Like that show was very problematic and that show did not age well. But I actually enjoy it in reruns and I still laugh and watch it. I did see the episode where Kathleen Turner played Chandler's dad and I was like, Ooh. Like I, I cringed a lot in that episode. Cause like that is not cute. And I know she has said as of a few years ago that she would never take that role again. Correct. but anyways, so what I was saying is, I was talking to a friend about Will and Grace and we were talking about Will and Grace and America's Next Top Model actually and how like both shows have been problematic and especially in recent years, people have been talking about how they've been problematic. And she stated though, like she's from a small town in Colorado. Yeah. She wasn't really exposed to a lot of LGBTQ community stuff, lifestyles, whatever, in her little community. But because she watched Will and Grace and because she watched America's Next Top Model, she was introduced to the LGBTQ community. and yeah. So you have to think about it that way too. Like it at least Brings it to the masses. It permeates into the souls of some people. Yeah. Not all people, but some people. And so that is a plus. Yeah, but you have to look at that too. Sean Hayes did not come out for a very long time, and he was on Will and Grace playing. Yes. Jack McFarland. Yeah, So

Gil:

yeah, it was what, at least almost 10 years after the show canceled, like Yeah, it was fairly recent. Yeah.

Eric:

So it still shows you where we're at, but things have even changed from then to now. Correct.

Gil:

absolutely.

Eric:

Three, four years ago, like Lil Nas ex would not be anywhere near where he's at right now. Oh God, no. So

Gil:

yeah, there's that. But it's, like I said, it's part of the times where we are, we're evolving and it's gonna take time. It's just true. Part of the waiting game with it. Unfortunately. Yes, we want change quicker, Obvious anyone does, but absolutely We're not there yet. Yeah.

Eric:

Yeah. let's talk a little bit about, Miss Argentina and Miss Puerto Rico.

Gil:

Ah, yes. Maria, Gorgeous

Eric:

couple Miss Argentina, 2020. Marina Valletta and Miss Puerto Rico. 2020. Fabiola Valentin, they got married. Congrats. Yes. Congratulations. They got married October 28th and they said after deciding to keep our relationship private, we opened the doors to it on a special day. they posted this on social media and included a 30 second video showing the holidays that they have been together and a glimpse of the moment. So they've been dating for I think two years. They met at a, they met at. Beauty pageant and they've been dating for two years. gorgeous couple, like as you were just saying, like beautiful

Gil:

couple, just holy shit. Yeah.

Eric:

I'm super happy for them. I think it's amazing. When I saw that headline, I was like, Wait, what? And I was like, Yeah, I didn't expect it. I was like, Oh. I was like, Oh my God, this is amazing. Love it. Love. Yeah. Congratulations to them. Amazing couple, beautiful couple. I think that's awesome. Yeah. And then also, I know I just like skated over it, but congratulations to Rebel Wilson and her partner because they did just have a baby through surrogacy. So I didn't mean to just jump over it and be like, Oh yeah, and then keep going. So I wanna give congrats to them as well. So yeah. Some good news. Pretty awesome. I think that's great. Yeah. some other good news that happened is that, Bolsonaro lost in Brazil. The Yes. So he, Oh, the people spoke. The people spoke and he lost to, Luis Lula the Silva. That's great. Cuz ERO was like Trump. Oh, in some regard they might think he was a little worse.

Gil:

So I'm telling you people, especially from that 2016 was just, that was a year. Yeah. politically, at least speaking, obviously that's a good top 2020 with the pandemic, but, yeah. 2060 politically around the globe. It was just this ripple effect and the conservatism swing of everything. It was not just a purely American thing. it was literally, I think France was the only one who maintained a liberal government. Yeah, but it was every, yeah. Ugh, flashbacks already.

Eric:

so that was good news. I was very happy to hear about that. I was like, go Brazil. Sadly though, Israel elected Netenyahu I think that's all I can really, I try. I think that's all I can really say about that. yeah, that was some not so good news. Yeah. I don't know. That was bothersome, I thought. And then in Russia they have voted to expand their gay propaganda law. So now, it used to be just for the youth where you couldn't have anything that propagated what they said was the gay experience or the LGBTQ experience. But now they have made it to include adults. So adults cannot be exposed to that lifestyle as well through any type of visual thing. So you cannot hold hands anywhere where anybody might be able to see you. Anything else like that? Oh

Gil:

my goodness. Yeah. I feel bad for the people. It's what do I, It's the people who are being affected by this. It's not the government it's, I just feel bad for them.

Eric:

I know there has been some talk, cause we were talking about Qatar the other, like a couple episodes ago or the last episode, talked about World Cup and there's been a lot of people coming out, speaking out against it. And I guess FIFA has said, Looking back, they never should have said yes. The Qatar.

Gil:

Even the way that they goand it over that particular bid. Yeah, it was already sketch fishy. And I know people were Yeah, the US kind of called it out. They got, and they, us got a lot back on Oh, you guys are just being, cry babies about it. And then they realized, wait, ding. There was some shit happening. Yeah. It's a little side door, little money here, little money there. But FIFA chose to close their eyes. Yeah. Because they would take money. Let's call it what it is. Yeah. That is what it is. I just say they went from Russia to Qatar. I'm shocked they did pick North Korea as the next option. Cause they would've taken any one of the money at this point.

Eric:

yeah. it's pretty crazy though to think, Like I said, we were just talking about it a couple episodes ago and yeah, people are actually, I don't, I'm not saying that it was our discussion that sparked this by any means. Cause I know none of those people listened to this podcast.

Gil:

It was our podcast, Eric. Absolutely. It was

Eric:

us. But I just think it's interesting that we were literally just discussing this and then all of a sudden, like people are really speaking out against it in volume. Correct. And there were other, started here first, there's been officials from other countries that are like, I don't even wanna go for our team because I am part of the LGBTQ community. So

Gil:

and it's the thing, it's like I, I like you and I, we both watched the World Cup. We've been pretty much dedicatedly doing it for what's says oh six, I believe is when we first started. It's just, it's. It's hard to watch it right now. Like I, I don't, I want to, but like I said, it's just, I don't know if I could Yeah. Mean it's just like with the Russia one, I was very much on the fence. Yeah. I try to watch it and I also did not you, that's the first time normally I glu to my screen.

Eric:

Exactly. And I'm like, I want to know who's winning. I wanna know what's going on, but no, I can't watch it. Can't support it. Yeah. I don't know. let's talk quickly. the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Yes. I know that probably should have gone in the early part of the podcast when we were talking more of the light stuff. I don't know why I went political, but let's talk about the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

Gil:

on a lighter note. a nice fun

Eric:

note cause we're about to go into a not so joyful territory,

Gil:

Yes. So everyone get ready. We're gonna get into the midterms here in a hot second, but, yes, we had the, 2022, Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Los Angeles. Yes. and obviously I was glued in. Normally I don't really care or I I don't have that same investment, but obviously Uths were being inducted, so I had to know everything that was going on. Who was performing. Yeah. All the other kind of stuff. Who was inducted? So Dolly Parton, who was inducted with the Eurythmics. We had, m and m part of it, Pat Beitar, Ly Richie, I believe. And yeah, I feel I'm probably missing, oh. Duran Toronto. I always forget. I didn't care for them in the eighties. I still don't care for them now, but they're there. They're in,

Eric:

they're, they do have a couple songs that I absolutely love, but I'm not a huge Duran fan. But yeah,

Gil:

we had the. I was gonna say, we have the edge, from the u from u2. he's the one who introduced the Uth mix. I don't care for u2. okay. I think people know my distaste for Bono. I'm just not a fan. Never been. and U2 in general, just the music doesn't, it's eh, to me. I've,

Eric:

I like one song from U2. From U2 and it's, I don't even know the name of the song, so I'm like, Oh, I like one song from them. I don't even know what the song is. as far as Duran, I like the song Come undone. But that is, honestly, that's

Gil:

a good one. That's a great song from the wedding album, I think. But that wasn't from their, the well past their prime at that point. But it was

Eric:

a great song. But it's a great song. It reminds me, it reminds of, it reminds me of somebody, Oh, it makes me all happy. And Butterfly. Oh boy.

Gil:

No, that's a good one. I actually, that's probably the only one. Cause I know they have what's a Rio and. Hungry like a wolf. I think that's another one. Yeah. I just, I don't know what it is. I just, I don't care for it. Just,

Eric:

I'm not a big fan of theirs. I never understood why people loved them, but I do that song a lot. and it's not only do I like that song, like to me it's just like a phenomenal song. And I will, Oh, it's a great one. Listen to that song whenever it comes on.

Gil:

Oh no, it's a good, that's a, that's I probably, Okay. There go. I like one, the one song

Eric:

Okay. That's one song.

Gil:

One song. But I was happy, like I said, I was watching some of the clips. I know it of on HBO if you're interested. November 19th. Okay. If you have that. Yeah, it'll be an hbo. I saw some clips on illegal clips on YouTube. they fans are in there recording.

Eric:

So did I, So like Janet Jackson was there because she was in, she's already been inducted, but she was in Inducting, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, Her longtime producers. Since the 86 Control album, and she actually talk about her

Gil:

hair, talk about her outfit.

Eric:

She paid homage to the control album. if you look at the cover of the control album and the way she was dressed. Yeah. In remembrance of that. Her hair was on point. It was phenomenal. her outfit, who, which was designed by Christian Siriano, was on point. She looked phenomenal. Her speech was great. Her speech was so cute, how she's they've worked with all these amazing people like Mary j Blige, Aretha Franklin, Mariah Carey, naming all these people. She's But I'm their favorite. And I was like, Oh, that's cute. And then she laughed, of course. But, how does

Gil:

she laugh? Eric

Eric:

She has like the greatest laugh. So yeah.

Gil:

Oh yes. it was good. Yeah, I saw her. I was like, Oh my God. Yes. I was living for that.

Eric:

Her hair was freaking amazing. Oh yeah.

Gil:

It was six all over again. Yeah. Great album by the way. People have not Oh,

Eric:

album is phenomenal. Oh yeah. 'em without control. You don't have a lot of women's anthems. Yeah. Just in general.

Gil:

No, very true. so yes. People go watch it November 19th. It should be good. Like I said, the rest of the people I wasn't paying attention to, it was mostly looking for my watching a Lennox and all that, so I was having a grand time. Then you like, Come on, let her tweet. Yeah. It came actually across my Okay. Janet, I. Because of you? I think so. It automatically is like Gilbert, you must like this too. Which I do. So I was like, oh, it's Janet.

Eric:

Because I post so much Janet It's like I'm reading a post from Eric. It's Janet, of course. So it's gonna just say, Oh, he likes Janet. He likes Janet. They like Janet. So also on a good note, just so in case people don't realize we're headed towards gray sweatpants season.

Gil:

Oh God bless

Eric:

I came across a meme that said, I came across a meme that says I took my man lingerie shopping and it's a whole bunch. It's like a rack of like gray sweatpants. Oh,

Gil:

that's awesome.

Eric:

So I thought that was cool. I thought that was fun. I enjoyed that.

Gil:

we need, at the time of year anyways, It's the best.

Eric:

Oh, and then I got put in Facebook jail again. What happened? What did you piss off? I posted an article about how psybiicilin can help combat depression and there's a study and I posted the CNN story of the study that was showing that psybicilin, which comes from magic mushrooms. can help combat depression. I not put in Facebook jail for that. Cause I meant, cuz the article mentioned magic mushrooms apparently.

Gil:

Geez Louise.

Eric:

So yeah, that was fun times. Fun times. I honestly think they, I think they just have a team of people like monitoring my page

Gil:

Have you been more banned on Facebook versus Twitter? Yes. MI must just took over Twitter. So at this point anyone's gonna

Eric:

be banned. I've been, Yeah, let's talk about that in a second too. I've been more banned from Instagram than I have on Twitter. Twitter's the one I've been banned from the least. Oh, so

Gil:

it's been Facebook. that will change soon.

Eric:

Yeah, it's been Facebook, Instagram, Twitter. Okay. But, and I know Instagram and Facebook are the same company, but I don't always get banned for the same things. Oh. So

Gil:

I've had more people trying to hack my account in Instagram than I have actually been banned on anything. Okay. You're probably like, Are you still there? Oh Lord. before we get into the midterms, Twitter, Cause that's been the hot topics. Yeah, that's, And I'm in this weird debate right now. Do I continue? What do we do with it? So we all know Elon Musk, obviously is Yeah. The king and queen and prince and everything of Twitter. At this point it's been taken off of, public trading. It is privately held now. he terminated the ceo, cfo, coo the legal team.

Eric:

team. I heard that he's facing, I heard he is facing a lawsuit though because he didn't give enough notice when he was terminating people. So

Gil:

yes, for California, if you are a company with more than I believe it's 75 employees, which obviously they do, and you're gonna be intently know you're gonna be having a mass layoff, you must not notify 60 days in advance that you are going to be doing such an event so that people are able to get the resumes, get ready to go, to be let go because this is a change of livelihood. He did not, he gave pretty much, I'm taking over. within 72 hours, he was like, Okay, by the way, we're gonna let go what? 50% of our staff? So it's about 7 30, 500 people, 7,000, I forget what it was, but it's 50% of his staff that he was letting go. So under California state law, that's a huge no-no. Which I'm shocked he did not know. Granted, he's had several companies in California, I think he just didn't care.

Eric:

Yeah. He's Elon Musk. He's that rich.

Gil:

Oh. He's Oh, whatever. But the law still applies here. So that opened up a class action lawsuit from the former, now former employees, Yeah. Against him, which is

Eric:

good. Good for them. I hope they get it. I know he's asked a lot of people to come back and a lot of them have been like, from what I read, only tho pretty much everyone said no, except for those that are on work visas. Correct.

Gil:

so that's been what it is. And I know a lot of. Artists or artists, You have musician, you have just, everyone from mobile to spectrums are dropping, either dropping out of Twitter altogether. There's a lot of confusion, anger that no one knows what to do with it. because like I said, it's him. We don't, even myself, I'm like, I felt like I post a lot, but it's still, I'm like, should I continue using the platform or do I go classic and go back to Tumblr or what? what do we do? So I have, Cause I get a lot of my news sources out of

Eric:

it. Yeah, I do too. Cuz I follow a lot of news outlets and independent journalists. Cause yeah, I follow like the big main ones to cnn, npr, Axios, Politico. But I also follow like in individual journalists and stuff like that as well. And so I get a lot of news from Twitter. Yes. I also get a lot of porn from Twitter. Yeah, it does happen. That it, Yeah. And so I'm like, Do I get rid of my Twitter? Because I still want my access to my porn and I still want access to, It's important. I'm not gonna lie. it's important. And I get You wanna think about this? Yeah. And I get access to a lot of my news and politics and a lot of things come across my desk, and they're coming from sources that I do trust, and I know that they've been vetted because of who is delivering the news that I'm getting. It's not just all opinion and pundit stuff of

Gil:

Correct. And that's why it's a. To me, it's a big decision right now because I'm not gonna lie, like it's a 2016 election is pretty much why I got off Facebook because I couldn't do what the, and I knew it. It was all mis, it was all the, was it the fake bots? The fake, all the news that was completely wrong and the too good to be true. Yeah. Kind of bullshit that was going through Facebook. That's why I got off of it. It wasn't so much just dealing with the family drama about you're finding out who the races are in your family, but it was really just the misinformation and people were riled up for it. I'm like, I don't wanna be part of this shit. So I left and then I went for a long time for Tumblr and Instagram. Obviously Instagram got bought out. so I've always been hesitant since I've been going on it. Then I went to Twitter finally, and mind you, I've been having my accounts since 2000. And then I didn't post for what, almost a decade that I finally popped up again. because I'm trying to figure out, and I found out that like NPR and some other good newses that I trust are on there and they post regularly and yeah, anyone who lives in the Bay Area takes Bart, Lord knows they're always on a fucking delay. And then I got my part delays on or updates what's happening? Yeah. I started using it regularly since two 20, about 2019 before the 2020 election. So now I'm on this weird fence of, do I continue knowing who the owner is? I don't know,

Eric:

It's the ethical dilemma.

Gil:

Yeah, it really is. It's like recently at work we, I had a great chicken sandwich. I was sitting there munching away. I was like, Oh my God, this is the best damn thing. And then they're like, Oh, we had Chick-fil-A and I'm like, Of a bitch. Cause I know how Chick-Fil-A's politics are. Yeah. But it was a really good sandwich. And I had, I was like, Oh, this is delicious. Cause I love chicken sandwiches. I really do.

Eric:

So I don't like Chick-Fil-A now. I don't go to Chick-fil-A ever. Yeah. And I've actually only eaten their, I've only eaten their food once, and this is before I even knew about their politics or anything, or cared to know about their politics. a coworker was like, Oh, I got Chick-fil-A. I was like, Okay, cool. I do you wanna bite? And I was like, Nah, not really. And they're like, Oh, just have a bite. It's like the best chicken in the world. I was like, Okay. So I took a bite and I didn't like it. It was a nugget. I don't know it, I didn't care for it. it had I don't know, I didn't care for it, so I haven't eaten there. I guess it had like a gingery taste. Oh, okay. And I just, I'm not a fan of Ginger. I'll do ginger tea, but other than that, I'm not a fan of Ginger, so I just really didn't like their food. And now knowing what I know about them, I'm glad I've never liked their food because they're a shit company. Yeah.

Gil:

They're that company.

Eric:

And like I know a lot of times, cuz I've gotten in this argument with people about the company and they're like, Oh, you can't take it out on all the Fran franchises because people buy into the Fran, the franchise from them, and so they buy into it and everything else. And that's just the, that's just like the main person who feels that way. It's not all these franchise franchisees that feel that way. I'm like, But they're buying into the company knowing that. Yeah. So no, it's still not okay. Yeah, it's a choice. And then I never understand either how their fucking lines are. I don't know how it is in the Bay Area, but here in Albuquerque, their lines are like fucking 80 cars deep. Oh shit. People are waiting for 45 minutes to like an hour and a half just to get to the, what's it called? The where you place your order at? Fast food restaurant. Like the drive through? Yeah, the drive through. Yeah. Like they're waiting just like for 45 minutes to an hour just to place their orders. And I'm like, Oh no. Really? I don't know. I don't understand, I

Gil:

don't us at least I mean I only seen a handful here. Like they're very spread out. Okay. the lines, only time I see lines like that would be for, In and Out I know people are like, I don't care for in and out, but that's just like I said, it's Bay Area, it's a California institution kind of thing. So yeah, Ivy, the lines for us have always been extensively long yet to know when to go the proper times and when to avoid that's the only time I've ever seen lines excessively long hair. Okay. For drive. But yeah, not, no. I've personally not seen a Chick-fil-A like that. But like I said, it's different Yeah. Yeah. It's like finding a Walmart in the bay. It's very rare and infrequent. they're there. They're just not everywhere.

Eric:

Hey, Gill. I was just having a discussion with another one of our guests being flagged on social media. There really needs to be a place where queer content creators can share their content without the fear of being flagged or

Gil:

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Eric:

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Gil:

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Eric:

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Gil:

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Eric:

I'm headed over to the adult social media.com right now.

Gil:

Oh, Eric, we ready for the mid-term conversation. This is what everyone's waiting for.

Eric:

Yeah. I guess I am. I'll let you kick this off cuz this is your specialty. Oh.

Gil:

Oh boy. Here we go. I. This is just my perspective. Like I said, it, I personally don't feel that it, Let's start it this way. Gen Z, young millennial is the reason we are not seeing this epic red wave, tsunami, whatever the fuck do you guys wanna call it, that a lot of people were expecting to give context to this is that historically since 1934, when they started tracking really the midterms So normally your incumbent president who wear whatever party it is, you generally will lose about 26 seats in the house. That's about an average. right now, he is slated to be in the ballpark of possibly losing five seats in the house. Six, which is enough technically to lose the house. The house, we had to remember the Democrats had only a five lead, a five seat lead, which is. Nothing, virtually nothing going in. If the average is 26. Historically, with the war's beat down since FDR would've been, Obama first term in 20, in 2000, 2010, he lost 61 seats. Oh, shit. It was a swing to the Republican side. So that's what they were expecting on this wave, because normally you do lose it. Trump lost in 20 18, 40. It was like 41 seats to Democrats. Okay. So on that, on, based off of that, the data showing, how that, how the president, especially the first term due with in the midterm, the first midterm election, it was expected for Biden to be possibly losing five, six seats. When this is all said and done, eight max. It's phenomenal, but it goes down to the way the Gen Z. young millennials. This is your 18 to 29 came out and voted and they came in numbers. Yes. And you have to really thank also the people of color within those groups who came out in hella big numbers. Yes. I wanna start off there just from a overview, just so we know that it's, like I said, it's not, there is some loss, huge losses financially Yes. For some candidates, which we could go into. But from an overall standpoint, it's still not bet. The Senate right now is a 40, 48 split with Democrats picking up a seed in Pennsylvania. So Dr. Oz lost Yes. Fantastic news. huge win. It's still a win. I was nervous. because Democrats should not take anything for granted. We're just assume we're just gonna win. Yeah. Yes. Pennsylvania, historically is a democratic state for the most part, Pittsburgh. It swings.

Eric:

Yeah. It is a swing state

Gil:

still. Yeah. We don't wanna take it for granted. So Democrats has a huge pickup. They're still counting votes in Nevada. Yes. Like I said, we're reporting this a week. It's gonna drop a week late. So as of now, they're still counting votes in Nevada for the Senate. That's another big one that they come, as of now is losing by. It's two points, but it's well within the era of margin, the counties of, in Nevada. Yeah. So Las Vegas is in Clark County and Reno being in Wasu, they both are not even done anywhere close in finishing up the votes. Yeah. And they move to a, by ballot kind of thing. So their ballot, everything got mailed out, so they have to count. And Lord knows the Nevada is notoriously slow on

Eric:

counting and Clark County tends to swing pretty Democrat, if I'm not mistaken.

Gil:

Correct. They do Washoe, all large cities. So historically that's also, so like I said, it looks grim right now, but like I said, the votes aren't done counting yet, And it's gonna be tight. We know that's gonna be very close. Here's really what it comes down to. Yeah, go ahead. No, go ahead. Finish. I was gonna say, it just, it really comes down to, right at this point it comes down to Nevada and Georgia. So it's gonna come down to, if Nevada goes blue, we don't need Georgia to take control of the Senate. If Nevada goes red to maintain a 50 50 split, we need Georgia. Yes.

Eric:

And we're headed far that going to a runoff? That's going off to a runoff because people, we'll talk about Georgia in a second. We'll use this to go into Georgia. I don't understand how Warnock did not get the vote in Georgia. I am really quickly, let me just rewind cause I wanted to make a comment earlier. My big thing is that, so if the house swings red, say if the house swings red and then say the sentence stays blue. and obviously the executive branch is blue, nothing's gonna get done because the house will just block everything. McCarthy will block everything. If both the Senate and the House swing red, nothing's gonna get done because Biden will just be vetoing everything. Correct. So everything's gonna be at standstill. Correct. So there will be no progress. Hopefully. Hopefully there won't be any regression.

Gil:

Correct. And that's where I would, to me this could have been dad because you could have had huge losses where you have to think about it also this way where a lot of the legislation that was passed also, there was a lot of bite. Bipartisan support in the house, that it really did come down completely to party lines. So with it being like, if Republicans have a lead of two, yeah, it's e still easy enough to get the support. Let's say Democrats push something to swing a couple Republicans who are in fair weather, fair, areas. like some of the new ones who got elected in New York, in the New York suburbs, New York City suburbs, Then they need to vote Democrat in order to keep their constituents happy. So it's close enough where they, we don't, we need, they still need the Democratic support in sitting in the Senate. We expect it to lose the Senate, and that's not going down that way. If Pennsylvania went red, as of now, if Pennsylvania went red, that would've screwed this whole thing would've been completely Yeah. Bad news. But because Pennsylvania going blue, the Democrats now have either Nevada or Georgia, really need Nevada. To maintain. We know we're gonna keep 50. Georgia would get us 51.

Eric:

So let's talk Georgia, since we've been dancing around Georgia. Oh, Georgia How Someone who's a friend of our, who's a friend of the show tweeted something yesterday, a friend of our podcast. When I say the show, oh, tweeted something yesterday about how can you have elected to put Herschel Walker into the Senate and still think that you deserve to be a state I'm para, I'm paraphrasing here, but that was the gist of it. And then also tweeted, and I completely agree with this, Kemp should not be governor, like how they elect, the only positive I can give him. And that's because someone threw this at me when I got in a discussion about it last night and I was like, Okay, you can give him that. Is that he didn't go find those 11,000 votes that Trump was insisting he find he was

Gil:

doing his basic duty as the governor to uphold the constitution. He's doing like the basic job duties.

Eric:

no. I'm not saying that Yeah, he's, I'm not giving him really any praise. That's, like I said, if you can, if you have to praise them on, like you're saying, the bare minimum of what they're supposed to be doing, then yeah. Then that shows you how shitty of a person and the candidate he is. Yes. And he should not be governor. I do not understand Georgia and the fact that they put him through that. We're going into a runoff with Warnock and Walker. These Christians are voting for a walker who is a known adult who has paid for many abortions. Yep. And they're saying, Oh, but he's going to give it back to the Republicans. And that's what's most important when Warnock is an actual reverend. Reverend Warnock. Like he touts the Bible, He speaks the Bible, He's given his life to the Bible in Christianity, and you're voting against him for walker so that you're, So you can have power, And then the fact that Marjorie Taylor green wand by 60 some percent, like she got 60 some percent of the vote. Oh my God. I just can't, With Georgia that

Gil:

state, it needs to be revoked at this point. But most of the south at this point, it's almost should we have just let them go? Let's do a big bonfire sale that just everyone, anyone wants to take it, I don't get it. Because, or the one thing is that Warnock is outperforming, he outperformed Abrams amongst white voters. That's the thing that's really the kicker, is that a lot of Republicans still were angry enough with war, I mean with a walker. Dammit. Why am I forget? With a walker that they voted for, Bo, with the, Warnock, what's his name? Warnock. Instead, that's what happened is a lot of the Republicans were able to split the vote in comparison to Abrams for the governorship against Kemp. Because she did not fare well aga with white voters, women or men. It didn't matter because she's a person of color. She's a person of color. She actually did worse this time around than she did in 2018. That's what I saw against Kim this time she was down 300,000 plus votes. Last time she was only down 55. Yeah. Which is, like I said, it was just, it was not, it wasn't close.

Eric:

I was shocked when I saw that. Shocked.

Gil:

And another thing about, let me just read so fast with Georgia, and this is the one that's baffling to me. So there was about roughly about 10 little over 10 million people who live, reside in the state of Georgia. 65% of it. So that's little over 7 million. Georgians are registered to vote, who are actually voted was 3.9 million. So that of the 65% of population that actually can vote, that's eligible to vote 56, only cut that in half was actually voted. So from that 56 p 50 half the percent was actually voted of that group. So 3.9 million out of 10 million dictated where the state went. Wow. I didn't know that. It still increase. Yeah. If you break it down to that way, only 3.9 million Georgians dictated where it went. The outcome.

Eric:

So many people don't care about the midterms. They only care about the presidential elections.

Gil:

Yeah, it, yeah, She, Abram specifically, she only picked up 23% of the, her rotors were white men and then amongst women, 27%. Oh. Which is almost the same. Yeah. That's part pretty much what killed, I know some people are saying, Oh, the black people, black, She didn't get the black support. That's bullshit. Yeah. Cause black men supported her at 84%. Black women support her at 93 amongst eligible voters. That's it. It came down to the white voter. The demographics for Georgia, it's 59.7 white, 30.5 black. Yeah. You're not gonna win if you can't get the white vote in Georgia. Yeah. Unfortunately.

Eric:

It's just so sad to me cuz you have Atlanta there and Atlanta's a very progressive city. and I just, I don't gotta, I understand it. I totally get it and I know I'm just in my own feelings and in my own thoughts and everything else. And I know not everyone thinks the same way I do and Okay. But I. Yeah. I'm still battling this whole notion that people don't think that everyone deserves equal rights, and I'm

Gil:

Absolutely, But that's exactly it. The Democrats ran on that abortion your rights, democracy. and that's what resonated with Gen younger millennials. which, like I said to the older people, we, a lot of them did not care. The what, 40. It was like the 46 plus did not care. But to the young ones, it was like, Hey, yes, I care. I'm gonna go out there and get, That's what mobilized. Yeah. And thankfully it bucked the system where it could have went. same thing in Texas, the Texas governor race, everyone kept eyeballing, like Democrats as a whole did very well outside of the two high profiled areas, but there were long shots. Let's be real. A Democrat winning in Texas for governorship. It's been a long time.

Eric:

No, it's been a long time. It's been what, like over 40 years I think, or something like that? Yeah. But I can't believe that a, I can't believe that they don't have term limits in Texas. And secondly, I can't believe people voted for Abbott though. Like Abbott is an evil al to himself. Let's remember the power grid situation where like half of Texas froze and all these people died from that freeze.

Gil:

Didn't the senator Ted Cruz flee to another?

Eric:

Yeah, he went to Cancun. He wa he was all happy to cross that border then Uhhuh, and he left his dog there in this winter storm. so let's not forget about that issue. But obviously Texans were fine with it. They literally just spit on all the graves of all those children that were massacred. Yeah. And gave a big fuck you to all those poor children and poor families that were affected by that massacre. Yeah. So like I, we were talking, I don't know if it was the last episode or two episodes ago where I was talking about having ethical dilemmas and we were just talking about it with Twitter too, but where I won't be going to Florida. I think it was the last episode and we were talking about Qatar and stuff. like I was supposed to go to Texas this last year or just a couple months ago for something, and I was like, I can't, just out of their policies and their treatment of people and human rights violations, I cannot give my money to a. Like that. And I'm like, I, not that I plan to go to Texas often, but I do have some friends in Texas and I'm like, I will not be going for at least the next four years. because you're telling me that I'm a second class citizen there because they're already trying to like, they're already pushing all these anti LGBTQ things as well. Correct. So why am I gonna give money to a state that is persecuting me or my community? That's true. It's like Florida. Let's talk Florida. Oh fuck. How the fact that DeSantis won and Marco Rubio beat Val Demings.

Gil:

That's the thing. If Florida was a clean. It was outside of, let's get the shout out outside of, to Maxwell Aro Frost. Yes. He won the 10th Congressional District of Florida, which was Val DMing the first Gen Z.

Eric:

Yeah. Yeah. and that was Val Deming seat. Val Deming seat.

Gil:

that's a huge, that's a huge, that's huge. Props for now. And like you're thinking future

Eric:

and Afro, and he's the first Afro Cuban too. from there. So no, I give him props for that, but Florida like just really was like, No, we're all red. Yeah. Like Marco Rubio, like Florida is like the, is anti lgbtq.

Gil:

But with regards to Florida, it's, I want, I don't know, I would challenge what people are talking about, especially at the federal level. Is Florida a swing state? The answer is no. No, it's a get over it. It's a Democrats. Democrats need, It's just like Ohio. Democrats need to figure a different path to the presidency without Florida, Without Ohio. Yes. Florida. Especially because Democrats, I literally, we got fucked in 2000. We all remember what happened with Gore v Bush. It came down to Florida and there was no

Eric:

used,

Gil:

Oh, you don't wanna, If they wanted to talk about stealing an election, I would re-look at that one. That's one's close.

Eric:

you also, you have to look too, like you look at that election Yeah. And you look at the 2016 election where they both lost the popular votes. Yep. And they still were able to get the presidency and then they were able to appoint an obscene amount of justices in

Gil:

judges. This is why the midterms, everything matters. Everything sets it up. And say who In Florida it's, if you look at the last, since Jimmy Carter Florida has, since Jimmy has only voted three times since then with three Democratic presidents who actually supported them three times since then. Eight Republican times. They have voted, Republican for presidential year and only three times since then since Jimmy Carter. As a Democrat. Florida ain't at swing state. Let's get over it. It's not, and that's the part I don't understand why we keep focusing on Florida and even within minorities who are not, they don't see themselves in the same light that Mexican American see themselves in the same light or any other Central American. I, Yeah.

Eric:

I don't get the, I don't get the Latino vote out in Florida at all. Someone needs, someone literally needs to write into this show and break it down for me or be a guest on this show and break it down for me. Cuz I do not understand the Latino vote in Florida

Gil:

I, I don't get it. I'll tell you, I've taken the classes in what I was, for my undergrad and they were the outlier in every statistical group that I could, we studied, I, that's part of my degree and it's, they are an outlier. A hundred percent outlier, It's, it is what it is. And even within the younger communities there, it's still not, it's improvements within the Democratic party, but it's gonna take some time. I thought it would be a, That's a long game.

Eric:

I thought it would be an improvement though, cuz of you have marched for our lives that comes from there because of the Parkland shooting and all the very vocal gen Zers coming from that. whole situation. But I also realized too, like I am partially blinded by a lot of the people that I follow on my social medias because they, a lot of them have the same beliefs that I do.

Gil:

And the new sources, we're gonna think it of a certain way. It's that vote is, they are different. It's just, it's a completely different mindset. There, and it's something that, like I said, it's amongst the Latino vote or, voting block. They are an out outlier, complete out outlier. I,

Eric:

I don't get

Gil:

it. Yeah. And it's something I will not, I just, I don't understand. I

Eric:

think it goes, it does go back to, and we talked a little bit about this last night when you and I have just regular conversation off the podcast about how, it goes back to historically speaking, how the Latino community sued the United States so that they did not have to be recognized as a different race. They could still be recognized as white, but the ethnicity was Latino, Hispanic. Correct. So I think you still have a lot of that mentality coming through, unfortunately Yeah. So

Gil:

it's just a mess. But Florida, like if you wanted to look at something like for Republicans that was probably giving them comfort is that they. They did almost, It's a clean sweep there. Yeah. And that's where I know a lot of Democrats lost a lot of money, a lot of investments and stuff like that. And I just think they need to really rethink where the, where we're going with it. Where are we gonna try to win. On the flip side, Michigan Democrats did fantastic. They swept both the House and Senate, for the Michigan, for the power. So the first time since 1983 that they control both the House and Senate in Michigan. Now they obviously hold the governorship, they hold Senate. so it's pretty blue right now, which is good. Like I said, you wanna start small in which they did. So they reset themselves. So hopefully that blue wall is back up again.

Eric:

And Gretchen Whitmore wanna reelection, so that's good. Yes,

Gil:

absolutely. let's see.

Eric:

I will, New Mexico understood the assignment. Yes, and went very blue. I know we can't compete with Florida when it comes to like congressional districts or anything, but we even flipped the second congressional district from, we took it from evil her.

Gil:

Yeah. And that's the thing, like if people don't know about New Mexico politics, especially Southern New Mexico, historically it's very conservative, wider than most of the state. so this is a big thing, a big change. yeah. For turning it into a very blue, but very

Eric:

blue here. Here's the ironic thing. Here's the funny thing about it, Uhhuh, because the Republicans are super happy that they want all these house seats because of gerrymandering. Oh yeah. But now they're like calling foul here, But, she lost because they, the way they gerrymandered the districts. they did that to all these other states too, to get you guys an inevitable win for the house,

Gil:

Southern Texas that used to be a strong democratic held area for the house. they split that bitch into six different ways. El Paso, it's by itself, cuz they broke it off from the white side of the district and that gained them another seat. And there's another, if you look at it like a little strip, I forgot which district it is for Texas, but it's literally like probably the size of my finger. And it stretches from literally the base where the Rio Grande touches. through the outskirts of San Antonio curbs, coincidentally to the suburban side of Austin. And that went red because they created another Republican district out of thin air, which used to be a held, strongly held area for Democrat. It's all bullshit cuz this is the same districts that LBJ had in the sixties. Yeah. And how he won it got through power from Texas. It's the same thing. But the question is, how do Democrats position themselves to be in power when, because they redraw these every 10 years. Yeah. And miraculously the Democrats always find themselves out of it. How can we actually get ourselves into it, into the photo to be like, Hey, let's redraw this. That's what the better question is. At some point we need to figure it out. Cause we are, we keep losing every year we're like, Oh,

Eric:

Yeah. Almost there. and then the thing is too that we have to on the docket is the Moore V Harper case. going to scotus, which deals with all of this. Yeah. Oh

Gil:

man. Yeah. And that's what, yeah, it's interesting. It's just.

Eric:

how did California do I, I know California is predominantly blue, but there's red

Gil:

pockets. It is, there's right now I think it's barely 40% of the votes are, and like we're a big state where there's a lot of votes in accounting. We all did the mail, my ballot. they still accept people to physically go in to vote cuz you have the, some people who still want that physical thing. It's fine. I generally prefer to go in to vote. I like the experience. but right now I think there's a couple of districts more in Southern California who are, little bit newer districts and they're trying to, right there it's like that in between. They're technically leaning Republican. Granted these are in the interior of the state, so it's generally more conservative. But they do have some big cities in there like the Riversides and stuff that are not gonna be near the coast. That could easily swing, but like I said, it's barely 40, 50% of the votes are in. Okay. And like I said, California's, it's, she big, there's a lot of votes to be counted for. So like I said, it's not all doom and gloom in a lot of ways because the votes, especially everyone, a lot of states with mail, it's gonna take time to open this up, make sure that if you mailed it off yesterday, it's gonna be within a couple of days to be counted. It's gonna take some time. And that's the thing that the results will be rolling in just like Nevada, California's gonna get some of bits of votes rolling in. they also created a new district in Montana, so the US only have one now. The, there's two, that district potentially could go democratic because it has the city of Missoula, which is a huge, college town. And like I said, especially for Democrats at this point, we, anyhow, seat counts so we should not, we need to look at everywhere and just like, where can we win? And just be very smart about it. to me, one of the big losers, what I've been watching, at least from the house perspective, is New York. New York State. Yeah. I was shocked about that. New York State had, Yeah, there was about five, I think. Yeah. It was five districts in New York and three of 'em were within the New York Metro, New York City metro. Wow. That flipped that. We lost so out the, That's, I forgot how many seats. Oh, yeah, it is, And that's something that I know AOC pretty much pointed out, but it's something with Democrats do not get complacent or just be like, Oh, we'll be fine. We got this. You don't,

Eric:

And the Democrats like to, like you said, like to take things for granted a lot of times. Oh, this is predominantly a Democratic stronghold, so we're good here. We don't have to worry about it. And you're like, No, you very much have to worry about it.

Gil:

Yes. It's please look at it. voting matters. Especially when they redistricted some areas. Yeah. And

Eric:

condensed. Now I did hear some people arguing the their case of Don't get mad at us, that things didn't go your way because we've been gerrymandered and we can't always vote. Our vo, our votes don't always count the way they want to because of the way gerrymandering works. But I'm like, okay, I get that when it comes to like congressional seats. But when it comes to governorship and when it comes to the Senate, those are just statewide. That's statewide.

Gil:

So that's on

Eric:

you. So yeah, you can't use that as an excuse.

Gil:

I, like I said, I hail from California. My, You wanna talk about votes being watered down? That's me. My vote is watered down compared to somebody from who I, somebody out of Idaho. That's facts. It's like almost 800,000 of me for every one congressional district versus other areas. 300,000, 200,000. So I personally, I don't like to hear it from other places when they complain about it, about feeling. That's just me. That's me as a California. Cuz I feel like there should be, I should have more votes in the house, let alone I should have more than two fucking senators from my state. I'm the fourth largest GDP on the planet, and yet I am on the same rank as Rhode Island. Yeah. As a Vermont, no offense actually. Yes, Offense, or any southern state because Lord knows I am paying their welfare. And that's fact. So no, I, for me, the way I look at it, just get out and vote. If I do it out here, and Lord knows that there's no reason to be, for me to really vote in the blue bubble. But I still do it. All of us do. Here. It's just your, You're me

Eric:

too. Because if enough of you have that train of thought that there's no point in me voting in the blue bubble, eventually it'll become a red bubble.

Gil:

Oh yeah. Easily We don't want that. God forbid, Cause

Eric:

again, like Republicans show up to vote. I will say that because they are 29% of the population and they have such a stronghold.

Gil:

Oh yeah. I don't get it. Oh,

Eric:

absolutely. I still think now, and I will say this and I know it's inevitable and whatever, or I don't, Inevitable is not the word I'm looking for, but I. I know that it's a two party system. I still don't agree with the fact that it's a two party system. I think we need to have more representation in there. and I will still stick by that and stand by that. I realize that's not the case now, but I still think it should be more than a two party system.

Gil:

Yeah. They need to figure, I think it's how do you do it so that everyone still feels that they're being heard,

Eric:

but it's not even that people aren't being heard now because it is a two party system. It's the people in power feel fear that they will be silenced the way that they silence the marginalized True.

Gil:

That is the issue. I think they just saw term limits. Absolutely. Cause that should, that would change some stuff around a thousand percent.

Eric:

Senators should get two terms max. Cause this is six

Gil:

year term. The six year terms. Yep.

Eric:

The house should get four to five max, cuz that's two year term, so eight, 10 years. Okay. Correct.

Gil:

We need some fresh

Eric:

blood. Like they were saying, and I don't know if these figures are completely truthful, but like Grassley from Iowa has been, I think he's on his sixth or seventh senate term. Senate

Gil:

term. Correct. He is 89. Yeah, he's 89 and he is reelected for another six fucking years.

Eric:

Yeah. And he was born before the chocolate chip cookie was invented, Correct. and he's telling a 22 year old how they're supposed to be living their life based on how he lived his life back in the 18 hundreds. I know he was not that old, but still.

Gil:

You mean? Yeah.

Eric:

Like Iowa, you need to do better.

Gil:

Yeah, absolutely. And that's the thing is that these should not be a lifetime appointment. And the fact is that people will revote for these people again and again. The whole, like I said, I, it just, it doesn't make, it just to me doesn't make sense. it just doesn't make any sense to me. I always believed in a term limit. At some point you need a change at the top, you need something, a little bit different. Yeah. And no two people from the same party are necessarily gonna be on the exact same page either. I don't know, the Republican party especially, maybe something you look at the, Huh? I

Eric:

said, I think the Republican Party as of the tip of the now is all on the same page.

Gil:

That's true. They're all crazy They are. They should all be tried for treats and every single one of

Eric:

em, they should be. Okay. let's talk about this too. How are people who gave tours Uhhuh of the capital building, Yep. Who gave tours to the Insurrectionists for January 6th? Insurrectionists? How were they able to run and campaign to be reelected? None

Gil:

of 'em should have.

Eric:

And going back to Florida, why in the hell are you voting in a sex trafficking pedophile? Matt Gates.

Gil:

Oh my, I, yeah. I couldn't even explain this one. And that's the thing. I don't know what I mean. Literally, they could have killed people and I still think they would've voted for a murderer. Oh, they would have, It wouldn't have mattered what they did. And that's the thing, it's a lot of people. It is party over anything. Party over. That's what it is. But it

Eric:

is. Yeah. No, it is, it's party over people and it's my pockets over anybody else. but let's also talk about this and we, I know we discussed this a few, like many episodes ago. You cannot say that you are the party of law and Order Pro-police when you are celebrating the fact that six police officers were killed in the

Gil:

interaction. Yeah. I guess it's also the same party who celebrates the Confederacy. True. They lost true. like I said, these are still their great grandparents were democrats. and that Democratic party before FDR was the same bitches we see now. These were your KKK wearing flag tuning. Yeah. God bless America. That's exactly what it is. It's just a different company. America now they're wearing cheap made in China hats That's what it is. Ironic, right?

Yeah.

Eric:

We're for the Americans. Yeah, but we're gonna wear everything made in China. Yeah.

Gil:

that's, it's the biggest hypocrisy, but people, let's call it what it is. It's poor, uneducated white people from the south who are the ones voting for Republicans because they don't know any fucking better. Yeah. And that's what it is. People underestimate dumb people, but dumb people stick together. They follow. and that's just fact. let's call it what it is. Democrats like I, they piss me off because we all like bicker at each other. But the thing is, we're all trying to talk philosophy to each other. You also trying to talk philosophical to a dumb person. You really think they're gonna listen. If I talking to a toddler, Have you tried using logic on a toddler? True, please. The answer is what are you gonna get? We know that. And that's the way you to think about it. And like for me, I would've made, for me it was especially what the Republicans did the, and they're like, Oh, it's just the mag. It's just the, no. They are registered Republicans. These are Americans who are trying to turn on a America. They are not Americans anymore. They are traitors to this country and should have been dealt with accordingly. And just like they should have did to their great grandparents. They all should have been killed. And I will go on record for this because I just don't understand it. You traded against this country. that's you don't wanna be here then leave. But you chose to kill fellow Americans. and on, on a lie. And that's just like what your great grandparents did with the Civil War. And just like what they did in, like in other nations, like I said, they, they didn't erect people of losers like their, like they did. That's something I don't understand. Yeah. We just sweep it. And then you have this resentment and these people think it's pride. No, you should be ashamed. And the fact is

Eric:

there's no, they all got away with a slap on the hand. Oh, five months, two months here, five months here, seven months here. No, fuck that. You have a woman who spent five years in prison for using a different address so that her child could get a better education.

Gil:

Yeah. Or person like shoplifted. Yes. Getting longer prison sentences or marijuana possession. Yes. hell, a black person just walking across the street incorrectly, God forbid, or in the wrong, they're in jail longer. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just saying like there is way more things that we have put people in jail for longer time than these people are receiving. And that's what I don't understand. Like I said, if these people were minorities, this would've been a much bigger situation. let's be wrong. Let's you know it is what It's absolutely. Yeah. But these are white people. Let's find their stories and see why each individual one invaded us and tried to do that. Oh, poor things. No. It's the same thing. Like I've been watching a news coverage about, about, Nancy Pelosi's husband. Oh, let's see, what psychological issues is the guy going through? Are you fucking kidding me? He tried to attack her. Yeah. Went after her husband because she wasn't there. But the way they tried to make it,

Eric:

pity him. Oh, I know. I saw an anchor off of Fox News, and I don't remember his name right now at the top of my head, but he was like, Oh, people get attacked by hammers all the time. It was just a hammer incident. What? Fuck you kidding me? I don't know. I know people get injured by hammers, and I know people get attacked by hammers, but it's not Yeah. A very frequent situation.

Gil:

No. Correct. Correct. And I thought, I was just like, Are you kidding me with this? Yeah. But that's just me. I just, I don't, I personally just don't get it. I really do not understand it. But here we are. Yes, here we are. Here we are. For like 10th time on this podcast. Thank you. Gen Z and young millennials. Yes. Thank you. Gen

Eric:

Z. Thank you. The young millennials. Thank you to the young generations, people of color for actually stepping up and trying to save this country.

Gil:

Oh my God. So some data that came out from the white, the Gen Z, white male. Oh, white millennial or white voter. Okay. And right now they are, it's, its long twisted. 58% of them have so far have voted for at least the expo league have showed about 58% voting for a Democratic candidate in comparison to a person between the 45 to 64 age group, which voted 63% g. Which is a huge swing when you wanna look at it that way. the only other area where they saw big in or fairly big increase is the Latino vote, the 18 to 29. It was 68% of them of voted for Democrats compared to the 45 to 64 age group, which is only 55% Democrats. Okay. So that's where they're seeing like the big, pretty big swing in the gen, like I said, the 18 to 29 age group. Yeah. Yeah. Especially we haven't seen that kind of shift in a white, especially the white vote voting Democrat in. You have to go back. Millennials started to buck the trend, but like Gen x boomers are the ones who started the very conservative trend. Yeah. You have to go back to the greater gen or the gray generation is what they call and silent where you started seeing the shift.

Eric:

it's interesting to me too, cuz a lot of the boomers are your original Woodstock and hippie people. Uhhuh free lab.

Gil:

But I think it's because of Vietnam was under a, under jfk, l BJ Uhhuh kind of thing. So I don't know, maybe that was some bad taste or it could be. The fact that they got, they reaped the benefits of what Democrats did and they got lost in thinking Eisenhower and Nixon and Reagan, every, conservative afterward, changed everything. They're

Eric:

all in love with Reagan and I don't get that. Yeah, they'll love Reagan.

Gil:

I,

Eric:

Reagan, I couldn't tell you. Fucked. Fucked this country hard. Yeah, like raw with no lube,

Gil:

so other coming outta the, I was gonna say, out of the midterm election, that was, interesting. Obviously, like I mentioned before, abortion was on the ballot. So we had, sorry, let's see. California, Michigan, and Vermont. And Vermont, Yeah. Codifying it and Kentucky and Montana rejecting that. They're trying to make it illegal. Yes. Which was pretty impressive.

Eric:

I did see that. That I was shocked. I was shocked to see Kentucky went that route, especially being Yes. Did, Yeah.

Gil:

Yes, they did. Especially, like I said, it's a deep red state, but they, that part was like a no-no. Like I said, still it was, they saw a lot of young voters coming. Yeah. with that one, marijuana was also on it again. So you had, Maryland in Missouri, now making that 21 states that approve recreational. Yeah. where it's legal, it's Arkansas and both Dakotas are the ones who actually voted it down. Shocking. Yeah. oh. but that's really, it's interesting cuz I found out with South Dakota, they actually approved it back in 2020, but it was their Supreme Court that struck it down. Okay. Yeah. Odd Yeah.

Eric:

Interesting. Yeah. That's probably why they put it against it this time. Cause they're like, Oh, even if we vote yes, the Supreme Court's going to shoot it down again.

Gil:

Yeah. Yeah. But it's, it just, it's very interest. It's interesting. You know what happened in a lot of the elections and stuff like that. Like I said, the mid, this midterm was very unique. I still have a little bit of hope that the Democrats will be able to cl onto minimum the Senate. Hopefully maybe something freak happens in the house and we maintain it.

Eric:

I have a question because, and I know we need to get going soon, but with the, all the gerrymandering that's happened, does this basically guarantee that the Republicans will have control, full control of the house for the next 10 years?

Gil:

No, and we've seen it with the way people are with the young voters. Okay. That's why this bucked the trend. Okay. Yeah. And then also you have to think about when a presidential election happens. Normally the turnouts even higher. So the turnout was really good, was really, this was even higher than 2018, but, We have to look at 2024 where we are gonna see a much, hopefully it should be much improved, turnout. So that's where I don't think so far. And maybe with all the remote, you know how people California's us where apparently we're just flooding every state there is, will help bring more liberal viewpoints.

Eric:

you need to flood some Florida and Texas then. Cause Florida

Gil:

just used to go underwater by itself. That

Eric:

bitch is gone. I saw me where saying, Florida will eventually turn blue. And it was basically cuz it's sinking underwater.

Gil:

yeah, good

Eric:

credits. you realize that we're gonna get a lot of like hate mail from Florida now? we'll probably get, we might get like one DM or something. I'm a California and it happens. Our audience isn't that big, It's

Gil:

okay. Yeah. Like I'm from California music getting shit. Anyways, I'm like, let's join the list. Get in line honey God, I know another gay from San Francisco. What happens How shocking. It was funny cuz I know the one thing like if people don't know, like I love sports obviously, and I'm a big 49ers fan and I just, I remember like me being, I was like, Wow, another gay guy root for a San Francisco team like I used to hate. I was like, oh my god. here goes more stereotypes. Not only do I like sports on like a San Francisco team, Yay, I figure we're gonna get hate and like I said, this is just our, at least for me, my viewpoint and how I feel about it. But yeah, Florida in a swing state, honey,

Eric:

no, Florida's not a swing state. I actually really appreciate you breaking it down a little bit more cuz I will fully admit, like I was super anxious with all of this last night. I was like all set to like, I am watching this all night long from 7:00 PM on even, maybe even six 30 on, cause I knew East Coast up would be coming in for me. Yeah. And then about seven 30 I was like, I can't watch anymore. And then I was just like, I started watching other stuff but then I would turn it back like at every commercial break. And then someone had text me and I was like, What are you doing? Do you wanna come have some wine and chat? And I was like, Yes. Get me out of the here. I need to get my mind off of this. And just checked it when I got home and throughout the day today.

Gil:

just to put some good, like I said, just good points. 1930, let's, Yeah. 1938. FDR in his second term, lost in one midterm, 81 seats. Wow. That is still the record. Wow. And I love me some fdr, but he got a rough midterm there. He lost 81 seats, Like I said, the, even Trump, everyone loved twos. Mr. Trump, he lost 40 seats in 2018 for his midterm election. Clinton and his first midterm election lost 52. That's why with Biden, like I said, us, were debating we might lose the house if we do by two. You're talking about a seven house seat. Loses of seven is not. Really, what are we thinking of? A big photo.

Eric:

And I'm glad you brought all that out. Cause you've been political far longer than I have, even though I'm way older than you are. Yeah. you've been more political, far longer than I have, so I appreciate you breaking it down and helping this person over here understand things and calm down and not be so dramatic about it.

Gil:

no. I, it just sucks because like I said, we know what the Republican stand for and I really felt like my democracy, my independence as an individual. it's at stake. That's why every fucking vote, every conventional house. That's why I talk about fucking Montana because it's the same thing. It's everywhere. Counts. Every, No, there's no corner of this country where I'm like, Oh, it's okay. We could lose that. No. Us losing seeds into New York should not happen. Yeah. New York Metro should not happen. It's as if Marin County went red, God forbid. Yeah. no, the last time that county went red was in 1936. If that's state, that county went red. Like I said, like you just have everywhere counts. You don't assume it's gonna be blue or no, those days are gone. Yeah. So like I said, we could look at polls and all that. This is results, this is what people need to look at. the voting happened, so now we're just waiting and hopefully everyone voted correctly. But like I said, it just, it's tough.

Eric:

not everyone voted correctly cuz there's a lot of red on the map.

Gil:

Yeah, no, absolutely Yeah, I hope I, hopefully that's all everyone's problem. But like I said, overall I think it was not that bad all things considered.

Eric:

It was a very enlightening delivery from you. So I appreciate that. So in case I don't tell you enough, I appreciate your insight, Gil

Gil:

Okay, thank you. Like I said, everyone I, like I said, hopefully if you guys listen to this and. Maybe it's gonna be better by the time everyone listens to this a week from now. Yeah,

Eric:

the results will be fine. A lot of this will probably be make be completely obsolete or what's the word I'm looking for? Won't matter because I irrelevant. That's the word I was looking for. All of this will probably be irrelevant, but you'll at least get our take or the week prior.

Gil:

Yeah. At least our initial, like I said, it's okay. People, like I said, it takes time to

Eric:

vote and you probably won't even have full results until December anyways. And then, Yep. The Georgia runoff is December 6th, so God,

Gil:

December 6th. Shit, that's gonna be interesting.

Eric:

Yeah. So everyone, if you can please donate to the Warnock campaign.

Gil:

Yes. That's where I put some money now.

Eric:

Yeah. First Walker cannot be in there and people are voting for him because he's a. Celebrity and he was handpicked by Trump.

Gil:

Trump nominated or was backing 300 candidates and he did not do well. No, I know he did not at the atypical ones. Oh, I forgot to mention before we're off of here. it's hella close right now. Colorado District three with your wonderful Boer she's still trailing 64 votes. 95% of it tallied right now.

Eric:

Okay. Yeah. Cuz they had called it where they hadn't called it, but people were saying that it was called that she lost. And then one of the independent journalists that I follow on Twitter was like, I don't know why people are saying she's fully lost. Because it has not been called anywhere.

Gil:

No. No one should be calling it. Like I said, he has, it's 64 votes. That's it. That's super close. It's still. I mean as a, like I said, my degree, I'm this like Super Bowl time. I'm excited Yeah, that's hell of close. And it wouldn't shock me if she challenged to have them recount it.

Eric:

Oh, I wouldn't doubt it either. what's homegirl from Arizona for the governor's race is already like putting in lawsuits and everything else to fight the results because she's losing. Oh yeah. And a lot of people are already saying Oh, this is a fraudulent election. My thing is too, and we'll go here in a second. Going back to the 2020 election where Oh, it was fraud. It was fraud. It was fraud. Okay. then if it was fraud, then all you Republicans who won, your seats all lost.

Gil:

Yeah. So I agree. It's almost like a little five year old. If it's not my way, it's not right. That's what it

Eric:

sounds like. Yeah, but I can sound that way too. Cause if I'm, I get mad if people aren't voting. I, it was very nice chatting with you Gill. Thank you guys all for joining us, on this podcast. We will, Yes. Thank you Hopefully be dropping another episode next week, but we'll see what schedules allow for Yes. And thank you guys so much and we'll catch you on the flip side.

Gil:

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Eric:

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