Nov. 2, 2022

Season 4, Episode 15

Season 4, Episode 15

GIl and Eric Discuss world events.

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Eric:

Hello and welcome to the Q lounge, I'm Eric

Gil:

and I'm Gil.

Eric:

join us as we discuss news stories and life situations, as they relate to the LGBTQIA plus experience, please visit us at theQloungepodcast.com and hit that subscribe button or listen wherever you get your podcasts. If you would like to follow us on social media, you can hit us up on Facebook @theQloungepodcast or on Instagram or Twitter @theQlounge. Hello. Welcome to the Q Lounge. I'm Eric. And I'm Gill. And thank you for joining us. a quick apology. I know an episode did not drop this last week. I do greatly apologize for that, or we do greatly apologize for that. Sometimes life just happens and life gets in the way and schedules just end up not matching up So we couldn't drop an episode, so we apologize. But we're now, we're here and we're back now. So thank you very much for joining. How

Gil:

are you Gill? I am good. I am doing well. We survived a little earthquake scare that we had recently. Oh yeah. You

Eric:

guys had an earthquake, was it yesterday?

Gil:

yeah, yesterday. Yes. It was a 5.0 just south of San Jose. for me, my location that is, 70 plus miles away. So I didn't feel it. Okay. but it was felt in a large parts of the Bay Area, is there any damage or not? No. It looked like people more were shaken and more kinda look at each other. Bewildered, but, no, nothing. Nothing majors a report, which is a good thing. That's a great thing. Yeah. I'm always getting nervous cause I'm like, Oh, we're slowly creeping up. it's just a matter of when we know what we're, where we live. It's not gonna be a shocker, but yeah. Thankfully. Nothing major happened. Okay. Yeah. So you, Oh, but you, how are you doing? I'm doing

Eric:

pretty well, actually. it got really cold here. Oh, though it's, We actually had snow the other day. Really? Like way up in the heights, Like in the foothills, but still, I was teaching dance up in the Foothills. I'm like, It's snowy.

Gil:

Oh, that's, But that's so awesome. Yeah. It's been, I feel like almost every day this year, you guys have had some. Rain, snow, something's happened. It's kinda moisture event.

Eric:

It's been weird. I feel like we didn't have a fall other than the allergies. The fall allergies this year have been horrifying. They've been horrendous. But other than that, I feel like we didn't really have a fall. It went from like summer to winter, it went from like 95 degrees to 48, 50 degrees. God. And I'm like, What happened to like the sixties and seventies

Gil:

It's a blur. Like the sixties and seventies. Yeah,

Eric:

true,

Gil:

true Yeah. Yeah, than that. I was gonna say, we're finally in fall weather here. It's kinda nice. That's

Eric:

good. Yes. there's a lot going on Gil. Oh, dear Lord. Yes. where do we wanna start? First off, actually I, this is where we want to start. We wanna give a quick shout out to the adult social media Oh, yay. For sponsoring. and just so everyone knows, if anyone's interested, and you should be, the adult social media.com adult social media is having a six month long open house event while they launched their 3.0, which we talked with Neil about in great detail when he was on recently. And it says, Post your content the way you want without ban. Join, post, comment, and get your account set up completely free. So they're doing this for six months with an open house. So that's the adult social media. at the adult social media.com. Oh,

Gil:

great. Great

Eric:

deal. Yeah, great deal.. It's an awesome platform and yeah, I'm excited for them to take off. So that's that. Let's talk, where should we start? Should we start with politics? Let's get it out. Just get it out of the way. Let's get that out of the

Gil:

way. Yeah, let's just get out of the way. We, It's that time of the year to everyone. We're just trying to get through the midterms.

Eric:

Yes. We're trying to get through the midterms. I've already voted so. So please,

Gil:

yeah, please, If your state has it, you have your early voting, you have your, mail by ballot, Pacific Northwest, let's go to make it happen. Yeah.

Eric:

So a couple things I just wanna ta touch on. the rep, the Republicans on the federal level oh, are planning on. So not only are they trying to plan a na, a nationwide abortion ban, they're now trying to. put into Act a don't say gay bill Federally. I know we talked a little bit about the, when we talk, when we talked about abortion, cuz we came in. On a special episode, I think Yes. Discuss the SCOs, mishap we stated like this is just the first step. Yes. So they are linked them. Try them. What's the word I'm looking for? I can't, Why can't I think right now? just one of those days. them passing an abortion ban. That's not the word I was looking for. Is highly linked to the don't say. Because they're just pushing through their agenda, which is going to be the evangelical side of Christianity agenda.

Gil:

Yeah. It's all linked in privacy. Yeah. And or the lack there of the exclusive staining in the constitutions, the way that they're going about it. Yeah. But it's the same thing. This is the same Republican group as we could recall, who were excited about Roe v. Wade getting overturned. regarding every state should decide what to do are suddenly reversing course and like training a federal ban. Yeah. Huh. Interesting.

Eric:

And it, in all honesty, it's economics. Yeah. They do not care about the electrical activity of clumped cells. Yeah. They are just trying to keep poor people poor. That's honestly what it is. Yeah. what would a don't say gay bill look like for the country? Do you know?

Gil:

I'm not fully.

Eric:

Okay, I'm just gonna read some highlights. This is from npr, so that's a pretty trusted news source. If the bill were to become law, it could affect not only schools, but also programs, events, and literature. At any federal funded institution, the language in the proposed legislation lumps together topics of sexual orientations and gender identity with sexual content such as pornography and stripping. It would prohibit federal. Let's just talk about that really quickly. I don't, this whole lumping of I don't understand it. Like I under, they're really good at their scare tactics, and that's all this is. Yeah. But A, there's nothing wrong with porn and B, there's nothing wrong with stripping. Yeah. Both amazing fields. They are trying to say that gay people are these perverts. Yeah. Or that they're sexual deviance,

Gil:

dog whistling.

Eric:

When you look at where the mass consumption of pornography happens, it's in the Bible belt. It's in Utah. Mm-hmm. It's in the Christian

Gil:

household. These are data you can look up on PornHub actually they release their data. Yeah. You can look up on, it was very informative,

Eric:

and who is, and we talked about this too, with the bathroom bills and stuff like that. who are the people who are actually going into the bathrooms and committing molesta, molestation acts and rape and all that other stuff? It is the straight. Yes. Transgendered women are not, They're just trying to go to the bathroom in a place in which they feel safe. Yeah. But it's straight men who are putting their mindset of I'm a dude. Yeah. And this is what's gonna happen. no, that's what's wrong with you. Correct. As a dude. So I'm just getting really tired of that. Lumping up together

Gil:

is this old scare tactic. This a continuing,

Eric:

and people eat it up the base that basically eats it up. Yep. It would prohibit federal funds from being used to support any sexual oriented programs, events, and literature for children under 10, ban federal facilities from hosting or promoting such events or literature, and allow parents and guardians to sue government officials, agencies, and private entities. If a child under 10 is quote unquote exposed to such material. It also calls out events such as drag queen story hours and libraries, which is, Which it describes as sexually oriented it. So we're trying to ban inclusivity. Correct. We're basically trying to force everything into a master race. It's literally, That's what this is. Go read your what? 1930s history. Yeah. Here

Gil:

we go. And this is the thing, especially within minority groups where we need to stick together. Because when you start, Oh wait, they're not after me. They're after me. And at the very end, you're all by yourself. You have no one, No allies. This is. This is exactly what it is. But Americans need to be smart enough to look at this and be like, wait a minute. What the hell's going on here? But I don't think People are more concerned about their careers than standing up or more concerned about, it's not me. They're after, not you yet.

Eric:

Exactly. And the thing is so we all know that Federal or Federal Florida passed their own bill, of course. And Alabama followed suits. Correct. And so now they're trying to push this on the federal level, but with even more parameters. So as it stands, like with the way the House and the Senate are built now, this wouldn't pass.

Gil:

Correct? This is nothing to be scared of. Yeah.

Eric:

I don't know if I like that. It's something to definitely be cautious and aware of. Yeah. It's probably not gonna happen tomorrow. We, I mean we've, In November 9th Yeah. We saw what happened with scotus. so if things change and people and the Republicans do take over the house and they do take over the Senate Correct. Then things are gonna get sketch. if any of these got to the presidential level, he's not, he's gonna veto

Gil:

them. Correct. This is where we don't want that to be the line, The last line of defense.

Eric:

Yeah. Cause what's gonna happen is you actually, as soon as the Republicans get their president in there they'll just push all this through. Correct. So that's just something to be aware of. I don't wanna say it's something to be definitely be aware of and definitely where they're

Gil:

going. The Republicans, the only thing they have going for them is they're cling onto their forgotten. this is, it's all social issues. There's not one realistic issue of how to solve anything that we're actually talking about. None of my friends were not like concerned about necessarily just abortion. I'm like, How the fuck am I going to. pay for groceries. Yeah. Inflation's high. Yeah. We have a solution for that. That's what I want my government officials to be figuring out. How do we lower some of the cost? Crude oil I know is very high and we're all paying high and gas prices. Have we thought about going to electricity, like moving to our electric? How do we move oil together for oil so we're not so dependent on Four Nation?

Eric:

Yeah, but if you look at the Republican

Gil:

agenda, but that's the thing, the Republicans don't have a plan, and that's why I don't understand why people keep voting for them. There's Oh, they have a social plan. They have no economic plan. No,

Eric:

at all, their plan as far as like oils concerned is keep up the drilling, keep up the fracking because drill,

Gil:

baby drill is their thing.

Eric:

Probably because. Climate change isn't real. Yeah. In their eyes. See, I'm gonna say like abortion does not affect me personally. Like I will never have one. just cuz I can't. Yeah. but to me that's probably like the biggest issue for me because I see where it trickles down. So once you start taking away women's rights, which they've. now you're taking away minority rights, which they're trying to do with the Voting Rights Act and they're trying to do with the Harper versus more where they're saying that you can gerrymandering this and you can gerrymandering that. Correct. So that people of color have less of a voice. Yeah, it's definitely, And now with the don't say gay bill that they're trying to get on the federal level. Abortion, Like people just look at it as, oh, it's abortion rights, or it's more than that. It's healthcare rights. but it's also equality rights, like human rights. So it's not just abortion. With abortion comes, equality comes, healthcare comes your basic human rights to just live.

Gil:

They need to figure a way to just put an amendment regarding privacy. It explicitly stated, because all of this is being argued under something that is not stated. it's an implied because I believe that it's a living briefing document with the, within the, for the Constitution it is. And privacy to me is pretty much in there without being explicitly stated. to me it seems like an obvious. I'm sure if he asked the founding father, they'll be like, Why would it not? Like it's pretty obvious. Yeah. We don't have to state out the obvious. but apparently we do. So I wonder if Congress could look at that and it's something we start challenging. and I know they're trying to do, It shouldn't be an issue later down the road that's they're

Eric:

trying to do, They're trying to do a codification

Gil:

of it. They need to put it in writing privacy. Yeah. No, I get that. That is an American right to

Eric:

No, I get that. But at that point, you need to have the majority of both chamber.

Gil:

Yes. And that's what

Eric:

America is. And you have to have a super majority of both chambers. You can't just Senate can't just be 51 to 49.

Gil:

Yeah. But that's something that the Democratic party needs to figure out. Long-term goal, how do we get there? Yeah. Because we keep fighting Republican fights. This is the thing we're always playing back up to. What are they gonna do now? What are we gonna do now? What are we pushing for? And that's the thing we need to start think thinking. this is the narrative we're gonna force. I

Eric:

just think it's, And they could happen. I just think it's interesting that Republicans make up like 29% of the population.

Gil:

Yeah. The voting. They have so much power. They do. And that's the thing with us. How are we getting bullied? It doesn't make sense. Even though we outnumber them in voters. We just need all vote. We win every time. Guaranteed. But I you

Eric:

have the independence who I think make up

Gil:

the biggest, There are a chunk of it, but even if you split that in half, we would. But Democrats do not, and this is something I've bitched about since I was in college. I was like, I don't get it. I just, I don't get it.

Eric:

Yeah. So I don't know. I think I'm just always amazed. And I know I, we probably differ a little bit here, but I'm always amazed at how the economy is ranked as the priority over human right. That's just me though. Like I think human rights should be your main concern. Cuz without human rights, nothing else really matters.

Gil:

Yeah. it's gonna come down to your bottom line though. It's either me or them. When it comes to

Eric:

the, and everyone votes

Gil:

for the me you'll to yourself. Yeah. That's why the, when it comes down to the economy, we'll always win on it. It, it does. Why it doesn't.

Eric:

Which I think is disgusting though. Cause that just shows you what's wrong with people. What's wrong with what's wrong with the human race. Correct. Cause you wanna have all these people that sit there and say, Oh, what's happening in Iran is discussing which it is. I'm, I support the people, I support the women of Iran for sure. their regime is disgusting. But you wanna have all these people saying, Oh, what's happening there is horrible. What's happening there is horrible. You're supporting the same damn thing here. like legitimately the same damn thing you are supporting here. The only difference is it's not extreme Christianity. It's extreme, Islam. and the people have darker skin than you.

Gil:

The US invasion Of Iraq? Yeah. That's was looked over. But Russia, invasion of Ukraine. They're another white country in Europe. Eastern Europe. Yeah. On the low end. But they look more European. Yeah. Not like people up in arms.

Eric:

And then like I know, and I posted something about this on my personal social media. The, was it the UN is putting sanctions against Iran because they supplied the Russians with drones to attack Ukraine. Okay. I get it. I get it. Don't, I'm not saying that's not a horrible thing that happened, but why aren't you putting sanctions against them for human rights violations in twos Iran sits on the com, the UN Committee for Women's Rights. How does that work? Make it make sense to me? I know. How does the US sit on? We do. How do they sit on that board? Because we've literally just stripped women of half their rights. Yeah.

Gil:

The sad part is within even the, guess it's almost like any minority group, even within the women's group, you don't have, It's not a unified front, because I'm like, that's half a population. Yeah. You either male or female, or, ev, whether or not it's the non-binary that's, at this point, irrelevant. It's a half and half. 50. 50. even within that 50% group, you would think, okay, they would have to be challenging this back. It's split, which amazes me. This is just, it's just mind boggling. you have the, like

Eric:

you have, it's not a unified, You have the mentality of the Lauren Bobbers in there where she just recently stated that the women were the lesser vessel and they needed the men's masculinity to complete them

Gil:

for procreation. That's about it at that sperm it out. Like you

Eric:

can literally clone Now men are, Yeah, men are not needed for anything literal.

Gil:

They don't need us. they're the main vessel. I don't understand. Yeah, you're pushing a child out. if our PPP gets hit, holy fuck, we're down. Yeah. no.

Eric:

So let's talk about the World Cup, cuz that's coming up. Oh

Gil:

yes. So there's next month, November. Mid-November, I believe. I

Eric:

believe so.

Gil:

Oh boy.

Eric:

So the World Cup is being held in Qatar? Yes. And let me just read this. the football association has assured LGBTQ fans that they will not face arrest for kissing or holding hands in public at the World Cup in November. But there have been arrests and abuse as recently as September, like last month of LGBTQ people. in Qatar. So we're giving all this money to places in which human rights are still not a thing. Yeah.

Gil:

It the World Cup being there is already, it was under very curious circumstances to begin with because it was the briberies and everything else I was involved, to get located it could and. They still allowed it, which shocked me. I thought they were gonna strip 'em and put it to another location even though they knew what happened. And then you have this situation where exactly that it's, they're awarding a lot of places. Oh no, you'll be okay if you stay within the premises, but if God forbid, you venture outside the premise. Yeah, then you're on your own. And that's the thing, it's like this is supposed to be a unified, not unified, but this is a global event. So you would pick places I thought that would be inclusive or. Where people could feel safe to go to. Yeah, for sure. Relatively speaking.

Eric:

But it's, and it's just like when you think about like when you had, the, when Russia hosted the Olympics, Uhhuh in the Olympic Village, Oh yeah. And let's talk about that too, because that does affect us. Britney Grinner. Oh. She just lost

Gil:

her appeal. Yes, she did. Is it nine years? Correct. It's

Eric:

nine years. That's the free, we, I was very supportive of the free Britney Spears movement. But what about free

Gil:

Britney Griner? And I know a lot of. Athletes have been speaking out against that. Yeah. And I'm kind curious what the US government's gonna do with regard to that. she's a high profile individual. They're going to, I know they're gonna try to figure a way to get her out. And that's a fact. Like I said, if it was one of you or me, No, I, we just guess our life. Goodbye. That's nine years. 100% guarantee we're gonna be in Siberia. kind of thing. she at. Will be tortured. Yes. She's gonna probably go through some situations there, but I'm curious as to what the US is gonna give in the exchange for her.

Eric:

then you also, Cause you know that there's gonna be something about like how we're gonna have to turn against Ukraine or something, or there's gonna be some sort of leverage that way. Oh, absolutely. But you also have to think too, a lot of, this started. because the US does not pay its women athletes. substantial money as compared to male athletes. So they have to go abroad. to make money so that they can survive. Yeah. Yeah. But anyways, going back to my point, it's just like when they hosted the Olympics and like in the Olympic Village, okay, if things happen within the Olympic Village within, it's like your own people's huts or places kind of thing. we could turn our the cheek, but we're still giving all this money to a country in which they have. Propaganda about, Oh, there's no such thing as gay people here. And while it's not like truly illegal to be part of the LGBTQ community. you also cannot express that you are part of the lgbtq i community. Yeah. like any outward expression is a punishable crime.

Gil:

Yeah. It's like the 1970s in the US

Eric:

Yeah.

Gil:

Yeah. I just didn't, and like I said, it was shocking that it ended up there. Yeah. I wanted to, I love that. At least they're picking up there being a lot more, Global. Literally global. with their choosing of markets instead of just a, We're going to Paris now we're going to Madrid. It's oh yeah, they were in Brazil again, which they haven't hosted quite some time. Then they were in South Africa. 2010. obviously it was cool to see in, in a Middle Eastern country. at the same time. It's that, yes, it's there, under the circumstance, Is there really one where we can place it that's gonna be open

Eric:

to law and Yeah. Yeah. And and I understand like the people there deserve to have their stuff too. Yeah. You can love the people of a country and not love the government. Yeah.

Gil:

Cause the government and people are not the same. They're not one

Eric:

at all. At all. And I think a lot of people equate the two. Yeah. Especially when it comes to like Israel. If you say anything against the government of Israel, then you're automatically saying something against Israeli Lees and no It's, But like you said, they're not the same.

Gil:

They're not, I don't know why people, like I said, I could guarantee you could go to any person in any country and we all have the same gripes. We all bitch about the same thing. The people that we're paying taxes to do a damn job. we all have the same day to day gripes about our work that we do. We, like I said, I think there's more in common, just like when I was, when I traveled Europe, teenagers there are just as stupid as hell as they are in America. I don't know why there's this clout about of Oh, they're European, it's different. No, if they're the same stupid ass teenagers that we have in the United States just with a different accent. But it's the same thing. I just laugh because people are people, even when I rarely do I, people watch, but I, sat at a park, watched people. obs, observing the natural thing, what they're talking about, what they're laughing about. Like I said, we as people are the same in a lot of ways. Yeah. That government, that's a different. True. that's a completely difference. Absolutely. Absolutely. And that's the thing, that's why I felt bad when people throw us to like the government say, you're going to war for what, How is this gonna benefit me? How are it gonna benefit my friends? It doesn't, like I'm not the one having a small dick fight. Exactly. that's, you guys go out there, you said your kids, you first

Eric:

but you might have bone spur. Yeah.

Gil:

Hell, God. So I don't know. I'm excited for the World Cup just cause it's the World Cup, but at the same time I am in this weird fence about it. I don't know how you're feeling. Cause you and I like watching,

Eric:

I love watching soccer. Yeah. Or football everywhere other than the United States. I love it. It's like one of my favorite sports to watch me. I honestly don't watch it a whole lot because it's usually on during the day and I'm at work, so I don't get a chance to watch it as much as I would like to, but I'm having some dilemmas, Ethical dilemmas. Yeah. Like I was supposed to go to a competition, earlier. No, Yeah. Earlier this month, like end of September, early October. But it was being held in Texas. And I could not ethical. Give my money to the state of Texas.

Gil:

You should never give your money to that state.

Eric:

So sorry. No, I know, but I

Gil:

hate them so much. I

Eric:

The people in the government again, are not the same thing. They're not the same. No. but to give my money to where it's gonna benefit that government, I could just, could not do it. It's like right now, like I'm supposed to go, I was supposed to go to Florida this year. I can't do it ethically, I cannot do it with DeSantis in there. Yeah.

Gil:

It was hard. I wanted to go to Disney World. I can't right now. I'm in this weird, like

Eric:

and then with the, don't say gay bill that's in Florida. that makes me a hypocrite to be here on this platform. And then going to support a state that is fighting against Yeah.

Gil:

Against us. Yeah. Against our friends. Yeah. Our chosen family. No honey. No.

Eric:

So that's where I am with like this whole World Cup. Yeah.

Gil:

I know it's hard. talk. Cause I look forward to, it's only happens once every four years. Yeah. So I'm just like, ugh. Cause just like with Russia, I was like, I really didn't pay attention much to that one. Yeah. Same. I'm not gonna lie, like the Brazil was probably the last one I really was watching more. and then the South Africa one, but on the flip side, it is coming to United States here the next. Oh, is it? Yes it is. It's coming to United States, Canada, and Mexico. It's a joint effort. So it's a North American effort. Yeah,

Eric:

which is cool cause people need to, real people need to realize that America is two continents, not just one little country.

Gil:

Yes. So it's coming to us. So if you ignore it this year, see us in four years, Hey Eric, did you know that the Q Lounge is on Newsly?

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Eric:

did you wanna talk about the Kanye stuff?

Gil:

Let's just give him a tiny bit of information because I try not to fuel Okay. Him the conversation just because it's it's, I. It's just like, like a, like Trump for instance. Like we spent so much time, everyone spent so much time talking about him and everything. Okay. Every outlandish thing he has done, it's the same thing with him. It's what else has he done? this shouldn't be a shocker to anyone. I'm just glad they dropped his ass.

Eric:

So he had his fashion show. where he had the White Lives Matters t-shirts, and then the, an editor for. Called him out on it and then he went off on her. And then you had a lot of people coming to her defense and then now he is a Fox News darling. And then he went on his antisemitic tirade. and crimes against the Jewish community have doubled in la They're getting death threats at the Holocaust Museum of la. Like more so than normal. Correct. so he then, he's started to lose a lot of endorsements, but the House of Balenciaga. dropped him his, was it his talent agent? His talent agency dropped him. Yeah. and then Adidas dropped him even after he like made some sort of, kind, not, I guess it's not, wasn't really like a threat, but it was like a, I dare you to drop me kind of comment. Correct. And so they dropped him. And so with him being dropped with that, he lost his billionaire status. Correct. Cause they said 1.5 billion of his dollars was wrapped into that part. His partnerships mainly Adidas. But he still has fi, he's still worth $500 million, which I still don't get.

Gil:

I'm curious of like how much that is, like liquid funds versus, like your net value because you're tied up at different endorsements and different, and I

Eric:

think that's very true. I think you'll start seeing him lose bit more. Correct.

Gil:

So wants to be, He's a pariah. No one wants to be near.

Eric:

He has a lot of supporters still though.

Gil:

Oh no. There are people because he love him from his, when he made music.

Eric:

Music, Yeah. Which I was never a fan of his music either. I liked two songs of his, one that was actually his and one that he was featured on. Yeah. But I don't even think I can listen to those anymore. Yeah. just honestly. and then, Has been dropped by a lot. He's worth 500 million now. He went to Sketchers today, right? Was it today? Yeah. He went to Sketchers Uninvited and then they escorted him out? Correct. But I don't know if they escorted him out because he was uninvited and showed up, or because of what's going on.

Gil:

It could be a, they could have asked him to leave and I'm sure he refused to leave. Cause it's the person who he is. So they escorted his ass out. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Eric:

So I don't think we need to talk too much more about that. Just that racism in any form is disgusting. Yes. Marginalizing. And hatred in any form is disgusting. We have talked about this numerous times. Yes. That, How does one marginalized community hate and work on a pressing another marginalized community?

Gil:

It doesn't make any sense.

Eric:

It doesn't, it makes no sense

Gil:

as a, like I said, as a group, as a unified. you're not gonna agree in everything, but at least more unified, we make up a large majority. Now we become a power. But when you break down into every little, piece of letter, then no. You have no power. You have no friends, you have no allies. Yeah. When you need it. Exactly. And strength in numbers

Eric:

a d human rights is not a difference of opinion. Correct, like a difference of opinion. And I'm not trying to give this, I'm not trying to throw, give another shout out to the show that I'll never be able to watch again, sadly. But a difference of opinion is you not being happy that Victor and Benji ended up together, and me being happy that Victor and Benji ended up together. Yes, that was a difference of opinion. Or if you have two pinons and I have one pinon, that's a difference of pinon. Yeah. But that was a stupid New Mexico joke. that's a, that's the difference of an, of opinions. Correct. not You deserve less rights than I do.

Gil:

Yes. Yeah. They act there's only. Piece of pie, and we're trying to cut it into X amount of slices. This isn't pie. These are people's rights. Everyone gets it. Like end of discussion period. Yeah, I don't understand, like I should have to explain the obvious.

Eric:

They're trying to say, Oh, here's a burnt piece of the pie crust. You guys all fight over that and we're gonna keep this whole rest of the pie. And I like burnt food, but

Gil:

Yeah, that's what I just don't get it. And within minority groups, like I said, we're all from different, The unfortunate thing within the United States is that we're all bulked together. And that's the thing, we're just bulked together. Like you're minority, you're all together. And yeah, there are some differences within each other. I think it's just getting to know each other. what are you about, kind of thing. But as a unified group, then we're, like I said, where we have power. you. That's just the way it is here. The sad part is I leave the United States and I travel, I'm an American, but only in America. I'm not an American. Yeah, I am. Whatever my ancestry lineage tells me I am. I could tell you, No, I've never been a manila. I my half my sight, I have no idea where that is. I do, I know where it's on the map, but I've never been. Yeah. If you throw me there, like when I was told by somebody, I'm gonna deport. Fresno, that's where I was born. The fuck you sent me back to the Central Valley. Don't do that. It's hot I'm not made for that anymore. like that's the thing and that's the part I just don't understand. We're American, You're born here, you're born with rights and did discussion, period. I, and I don't get it. I really.

Eric:

Neither do I.

Gil:

I just, I really

Eric:

don't. I really don't. I'm super confused by it all. It makes no sense to me.

Gil:

Yeah. this country's built on slaves, is built on, blood. It's built on stolen land. Families that were not good enough in the original country. They're from. Let's be real They've fled. They were good.

Eric:

And people who were stripped from their titles coming here. Oh, I had a title, but I am this great person.

Gil:

no Yeah. It's just mind boggling.

Eric:

So let's make a

Gil:

U-turn. Okay. And you

Eric:

let's give a shout out to Kim Petris and Sam Smith for becoming the first non-binary and the first openly trans musicians to have a number one on billboard's Hot 100 with the song Unholy, which is a great song. Yes, I love that. I'm not a Sam Smith fan. No, I've not really big on. I think there's one or two songs of theirs that I like, but Unholy is such a great song. That song is like already on my stripper playlist. like that song is fantastic. I would put That song is fantastic. I would put that song almost. It would be sitting around the same area as closer. It wouldn't be at the same table as closer. Yeah. By nine inch nails. but it would at least be like waving hi. Being able to wave high. Yeah.

Gil:

It's like couple of tables behind it. Adjacent. Yeah. Yeah,

Eric:

Yeah. But they still acknowledge each other. Yeah. it's a good. So just kudos to, That's good for them. Sam Smith and Kim. Kim Petris.

Gil:

And thank you for educating me on that because I actually didn't know that Sam Smith was non-binary. Yeah, I did not know my bad on that one.

Eric:

also a huge shout out to Angelica Ross. Oh yes. So people who may not know she played Candy Ferocity in Pose.

Gil:

Great show. Yes. If you guys haven't already seen it. fantastic show. I thought late. I was late to that one.

Eric:

And she has made history as the first trans woman to ever play a leading role on Broadway. Oh. And she has been playing the role of Roxie Heart in Chicago.

Gil:

Ah, great.

Eric:

I love you. she is kicking down doors. Yes. She is making. Easier for people after her, for women after her to run. Correct. So I am all open. I am all here for the inclusion in which she is bringing and I think that's fantastic. I'm shocked that it hasn't happened sooner. Being that just cuz it's Broadway and like the Tonys and all that other stuff. Correct. But I think at. It's a great thing. Not only is she a trans woman, but she's also a trans woman of color.

Gil:

Yes.

Eric:

Important. So that is very important. But it's always the trans woman of color who make things happen. Yeah. Always.

Gil:

it's that. I think it's because that unfortunate, like I said, you're gonna stand out and it's a fight or flight kind of thing. and they fight. those bitches fight. Let's be.

Eric:

It's not, Thank you for fighting. No, thank you. I mean for

Gil:

fighting, because they're the ones who kickstarted our, you know where we are now. And I, we thank them for 'em. Cause they can't hide it. That's who they are and that's okay.

Eric:

Exactly.

Gil:

Oh, that's so good for her all. Yeah.

Eric:

Congrats. I was super excited for her. Super happy. I think that was some. That was great. That's absolutely fantastic. So that's some really great news for her. And then Kim Petris and all I, that was just wonderful news. Some unfortunate news and some sad news that we need to talk about. and maybe just discuss our little memories. So Leslie Jordan unfortunately passed away.

Gil:

he was only 67.

Eric:

Yeah. He was 67 and he passed away due to what they're suspecting was he was in a car act, a car crash, but they're suspecting it was due to a medical episode that happened causing the accident. Oh, So this is just a little blurb? where is this from? From the gay times? That's no from gay. Since arriving in Los Angeles in 1982 with just $1,400 to try and make it in the entertainment industry, Leslie has made hundreds of appearances across television, film, and theater, known for roles in Will and Grace. Hearts of Fire, American Horror Story, and many more. Leslie recently made viral appearances on RuPaul's Drag Race and his own social media during the Covid 19 pandemic. Yes. Speaking to Gay times in 2021, Leslie said, The beautiful part is I've almost accomplished anything and it's all gravy from here on out. I'm enjoying life. I'm perfectly happy with who I am, what I am, and that is absolute gold. End quotes. also, he just bought his first condo like 10 weeks ago.

Gil:

I know. That was his first like property, right? He was like property, Yeah. He was so proud of it. Was so proud of it. I loved his little because on, like I said, I wasn't being on TikTok, but it helped watching his stories during the pandemic, especially during the height of, we had no fucking idea what the hell was going on. No, we were, none of us. Like it's at the 2020. We was like, The hell is, And you needed something normal to, or to bring some normal say, guess. Yeah. You wanna. Yeah, and I, obviously you and I used to bond over him over Will and Grace. That's where we started watching him with Benji. Benji, that's what we all aspire to have. the

Eric:

business associate. And his wife, Crystal.

Gil:

Oh yeah. Wife Crystal. never seen,

Eric:

No. We saw her

Gil:

dress. Yes. We saw her dress. The Oh my God.

Eric:

The banter with him and Karen

Gil:

Walker. Kara Walker, yes. I saw that Megan Mullaly was just completely devastated from that. they worked together. Eight plus years.

Eric:

yeah. Yeah. There's been a lot of, Margaret Cho released something, Mayim Bialik, Cheyenne Jackson. Yeah. He was also on the Reba show.

Gil:

Correct. So I He was great. Yeah, he was, it's just one of those characters, especially from the era that he's from. To see how much character he had. because he's from that part, know, like I said, we don't have a lot of people a lot of gay men from that time. That's why, for him to, when he was telling a story, stuff like that, it was like, Oh my god. it's a relic for us. Like the right pieces and stuff like that. So it just, it was really, it's just

Eric:

sad. It was very sad. I was like in the middle of a conversation, and I know it's rude for me to be scrolling through social media as I'm in a conversation, but I was in a conversation and I like opened my Facebook and it was like the first story that popped up and I was like, Oh my God. And everyone was like, What's going on? What's wrong? What's wrong? What's wrong? And I was like, Leslie Jordan died. It was so unexpected for me, and I was just, Yeah, didn't expect it. it was like a throat punch. Yeah. I, like it's a huge loss for the community. No, it's huge. Yeah. It's a huge loss for the entertainment world and just for people at large, but for their community. And he

Gil:

was such like a good, like I said, he was just a good spirit. Yeah. He was like, Yeah, he gave, he's genuinely a good person. He's wasn't like Ella nice. He was genuinely a good person. Yeah, for sure. Not to throw, shade within our community, but I'm just saying it was a little shady with her situation. But I'm just saying from like I said, he was just one of those just genuinely good people. and yeah, it just, it's. It's just weird to think

Eric:

about. It's like surreal. I almost don't believe that it's real, but I know it's real.

Gil:

Yeah. Cause it wasn't his ti I don't feel like it was his time. Yeah. Cause not, I was hoping he was gonna hit into his nineties, Pull a little Betty White there. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I just wanted of those I, like I said, I got the news from my, I think Chris texted me when I was at work and I just started like getting super teary on him. what the hell has this? Yeah. I just didn't expect

Eric:

it. Chris texted me too. Oh did he? And I didn't know if it was cuz he saw my posts or he was just texting me and we were both like crying over text together.

Gil:

yeah. But it was, ugh. Oh my God. Yeah. But yeah, he, I grew even more like that, respect for him during the pandemic, watching his daily videos and, relating to it. It was like, I don't know, it just, it's sad.

Eric:

It is. I don't know. Like it also reminds me too, I don't know if we, when we would go to Denver or before I lived in Denver Uhhuh, there was someone in, there was that guy that always came into the club who reminded us of, Oh yes, Beverly, Leslie. Oh,

Gil:

Beverly, Leslie And so we all knew of Beverly. Leslie. We

Eric:

all knew definitely Leslie. I was probably a Beverly. Leslie at some point, or I might still be

Gil:

My business associate, Benji. I'm like

Eric:

He had a beautiful business associate.

Gil:

Yeah. And then he had the dac. He had the new Benji. Yes. What happened to the old one? Oh, he got old Oh my gosh.

Eric:

Wow. And he was the true pioneer of the pocket gay. He. He and I think he and I think he's like the one pocket gay that you don't have an issue with. Eric, Sorry, Did I just call you out on something? Yes, you did.

Gil:

Sorry. But it's true. I see all the other pocket. I don't help you keep walking. Oh my God. They like to clinging to near Chris. I always crack up to myself, I like, Wait, he already found one. Ok Oh my goodness. Yeah. no. Beverly. Leslie, Lisa, the leader of the pocket case. That's why it's really said he's gone. Yeah. Oh, Just bright, rested power, as you say. Yeah. Rest in power for sure. Oh my goodness.

Eric:

Anything else Gil?

Gil:

no. Just like I said, just for our listeners, make sure if you are in the US you are voting, midterms are coming around the corner here. it's happening with or without you, so at least might as well make your vote count. Yes. Yeah, here we go. Hope for some good results. We will be doing a special live ish, edition ish,

Eric:

ish being the operative PR of it.

Gil:

We will be live together doing it, with the results as they roll in. and you guys will be painfully listening to us, obviously a week later to hear what we have to say, Yes. But that will be happening soon. Yeah.

Eric:

I think that's a good place to end. Yes. Oh,

Gil:

everyone, I hope you guys have a happy Halloween.

Eric:

Yes, have a happy Halloween. Remember that? That is gay Christmas.

Gil:

Yes, it is. It really is. Slut it up.

Eric:

Have fun. Be safe. And I reiterate, have fun. Yes. to me, I get to be a whore, What my none outfit. I don't think that's actually even a Halloween costume though for me. I'll talk about my Halloween costume on our next episode. Okay. thank you guys so much for listening to us and we will be around next week. Thank you so much. Thank you.

Gil:

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Eric:

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