Season 2 Episode 4

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Eric: 0:34

Hello and welcome to the Q lounge. I'm Eric and I'm Gil and we want to thank you for joining us for another session in the Q so Gil, what do you think about what's been going on lately?

Gil: 0:47

Oh, dear. Where did we start with our Cancun Cruz yes, the frozen Tundra of Texas apparently was just too much for him. Like a good American, he fled. Yes.

Eric: 1:01

As it turns out, he does understand people crossing the border to escape inhospitable living conditions.

Gil: 1:08

What are the chances like I was joking with you through texts that the Mexican government definitely should have detained him and then deport him back to America. Yes, for sure.

Eric: 1:21

Yeah. I just, I don't get the audacity of him. And then he's going to throw the blame on all the women in his life

Gil: 1:28

course

Eric: 1:28

and really? And then, so they left their poodle there. In Texas to freeze. Cause Of course, and I'm not a fan of PETA. But I hope Peta goes

Gil: 1:38

after him. Now. That will be a good thing. It's just for that one. And it's just, it's very ironic with that. I'm like you. He trashed other States, California, for instance amount. Oh, the rolling blackout and Oh my God, that State can't run itself. See, this is what happens. His own state froze over on their own grid. Mind you. And the first thing he does, he leaves doesn't think about his constituents or anything like that?

Eric: 2:04

Yeah. I get him at him and Abbott. And is it corn? Corn? Is there other Senator, right? Yep. I guess I'll reach out to biting. Like you have to declare a state of emergency. We need federal assistance, which they got. With no questions asked, this is part of the United States, but like you said, he mocked and voted against helping California during the rolling blackouts. He voted against helping the Northeast. When they got hit by hurricane Sandy. Yup. He fled Texas. I get away from the winter storm because they, like you said, had to pull off of the federal grid and have their own grid, which was not winterized because it was not regulated. Correct. But then you have cities like El Paso. That's on the national grid and they have full power.

Gil: 2:50

It's just so ironic. And it just, of course, Republicans are not going to see it that way. They don't. No, we don't want the government's helping us stepping in well, then deal with it then. But now it's a late, why isn't the government helping us? Oh God, we're freezing to death. What do you want? I'm confused.

Eric: 3:09

And then I saw too that a lot of, as soon as the power comes on, a lot of these people are going to be hit with electric bills up to $10,000. Oh my God. And I'm like, what the fuck? No, that's not. Okay.

Gil: 3:21

They wanted it. Remember private private business instead don't trust the federal.

Eric: 3:28

And then I know you're going to love this because you love him possibly more than I do. Jerry Jones. Oh, yes. I don't know if you saw that he's making a mint because he's able to upsell his natural gas to Eastern Texas and Northern Louisiana. Of course he got premium.

Gil: 3:47

That's a bitch. I can't stand up. I just cannot stand him.

Eric: 3:54

And for anyone who doesn't know, that's the owner of the Cowboys, the Dallas Cowboys.

Gil: 4:00

Oh, that guy. Yeah. That's a funny, but on a lighter note, on a lighter note, tell us about boys, Eric. Tell us about boys. Tell us about boys. Let's go ahead and change the subject a little bit. Something a little bit light and fluffy. Little hard at times. Yeah.

Eric: 4:16

I'm always hard when it comes to boys.

Gil: 4:18

But it's part of the, obviously the gay experience and it's something that. Oh,

Eric: 4:21

absolutely. We

Gil: 4:23

have to talk about, like we got through the relationship. We got to the heartache.

Eric: 4:27

It's we have, I don't know that we've really gone there quite yet, but it's funny cause like we probably more so I, but we always talk about like misogyny and toxic masculinity and I probably sound like the total man hater. And I'm obviously not because hello, I'm on this podcast. Yeah, no, I, I love men turn me on. I find them sexy. Yeah. What do you like about men?

Gil: 4:56

Oh, boy, for me. Especially if it comes to like physical attraction, generally the eyes, and then the hair. Okay for me, or like the first two things. And when someone says to me, looks don't matter, I don't see looks that's bullshit for self let's. Not even go there. That's normally the first thing that attracts you to someone or there's that little bit of interest for the most part, not everyone, I would say 99% of us is going to be some kind of physical attraction. Yeah. But I will say, yeah, go ahead. Keeps you into relationship is to personality and pretty much. Is there enough, the baggage that they come with, is it worth you investing in sustaining? Okay. And that's the way I always feel about that, but definitely there have to be something

Eric: 5:44

about them. I wanna say there's, I'm sure you've come across this too. There's people that are like, Oh my God, you're gorgeous. You're beautiful. And then you talk to them or you get to be around them and you're like, Oh, no, like what the fuck was I thinking either they're dumb. Or they're assholes. Yeah. You can't, you will maybe meet the guy who's really sweet and cool and everything else. And it's just Oh my God, I haven't met him yet. But you have, obviously

Gil: 6:11

I have. It's funny because as I gotten older, the looks are less. It's not that they've always been really my primary thing, but it's definitely, I love to have an actual conversation with someone. So it's like, when I'm talking to someone I'm like, okay, they're nice are cute. Awesome. But as soon as they open the mouth, Nine out of 10 times, I'm always like, Oh shit, idiot, moron. What? It just that it matters if other people are like let me just go, hit it and quit it. I'm like, no, I can't even do that. Cause they open their mouth and I'm like, Oh no, I should've just kept it quiet.

Eric: 6:50

Now I can hit it and quit it. And I can be like, yeah, just don't talk. But. For anything meaningful. Yeah. Intelligence. Yeah,

Gil: 7:00

it does wit for me, I love a guy with quick wit I cannot deal with a serious guy. Who's every, you don't like it. Something, I don't know, like a cup falls and he's mad about the situation for six weeks. I can not deal with a person like that. That's not my kind of, my kinda relationship

Eric: 7:19

that's happening,

Gil: 7:20

but there's some people who love a very serious person. They don't like jokesters. I enjoy guy with a quick wit I like, guys with just good personality, or able to, wants to go out. I eat as much as I like to tell myself, Oh, I'm a home body. I'm not, I like it pretty home, but I love to travel more than anything. Yeah. What about you, what attracts you to it?

Eric: 7:40

Or actually I want it, I want to go back to what you said about eyes and hair. What do you like about eyes? Yeah. What kind of color eyes do you like or what shape of eyes do you like? What kind of hair do you like? I'm a huge fan of fros. Like I love an

Gil: 7:52

Afro. I love curly guys would like curly to wavy hair. It's because I have, I love that too. I have straight hair. My hair is it's straight. It's the only

Eric: 8:01

thing straight about you. Yeah.

Gil: 8:04

Yeah. I have straight thick hair and it's a blessing because I could style my hair any fricking which way I want, but I love a guy with the wavy or curly hair I love, Oh my God. adore it. Afro too. I like to touch guys hairs. I'm not gonna lie. I really do. I prefer a guy with Brown eyes or light Brown eyes. The blues and greens are nice, but it's normally doesn't attract me immediately. I like

Eric: 8:30

green more

Gil: 8:30

than blue. Yeah, green. It looks a bit, or even Hazel, like a Hazel green. I w I like and then the eyes I enjoy guy with more. I don't know if distinct it's, I don't know how to describe it, but okay. No that it's like there. I don't know, but that's normally for me what attracts me how about. So

Eric: 8:47

I like someone with a nice smile with nice teeth. I like nice hair, but hair is actually not a thing. Like it's not a. Deal breaker or non deal breaker for me, I do care, but I think the first thing I notice about someone is their teeth and smile and probably their posture.

Gil: 9:04

Oh, posture. Okay.

Eric: 9:05

I like someone who exudes confidence. And maybe even slight arrogance, not arrogant. I don't want an arrogant person or correct. An overly cocky person, but someone who has just maybe that slight air about them. I like someone who's extroverted because I'm so introverted that I need someone to draw me out of myself. Yeah. Now I do like to go out though. So I like to be around a lot of people, but I like to be like in my own little bubble with people.

Gil: 9:36

Yeah. With people you want to be in your book yet in your corner, but you're still with everyone. Exactly. Comfortable, ready to go if you

Eric: 9:43

need to social anonymity. So I like someone who's. Much more extroverted than I am. I like someone who's witty. I don't know that is necessarily a huge thing for me, but I do like someone who has a sense of humor, someone who doesn't take everything too seriously and doesn't take life too seriously. Cause I think I can sometimes be too serious. So I like someone that would be able to. Balance that out of

Gil: 10:07

me, I see, for me, I need that calm somebody a little bit more level headed and calm because I could be on the opposite where my moods will swing one way and suddenly I'm like swing back the other way. It gives someone whiplash, but I need that someone who's ease me okay. Let's go to walk this through. Yeah.

Eric: 10:25

I'm super chill myself. So I don't need anyone more chill than me. Cause then we'll probably just

Gil: 10:29

asleep. I use it. I like to tell myself or that lie, that I tell myself that I am calm at all times. No abs so freaking lutely not,

Eric: 10:40

not calm at all times, but I'm calm. I would say 85 to 90% of the time. But like when I swing to the other side, I like. In full-blown either internal freakout or external freakout, depending on what qiao I am hanging out in in that time I also, I like someone who's like super supportive and yeah. So someone who is going to support me, but someone who's also willing to take support from me. Because. Yeah. So I think, like you said, like there's obviously going to be like some sort of physical attraction and there's going to be something that attracts you to a person. Physically being guys were mostly visual.

Gil: 11:20

Yeah. It's not like you could see their personality. That's something that you learn over time, their day-to-day habits, their, nuances and stuff that you're like, Oh, especially living together. Yeah. I don't know how people could go 20 years without living with each other. And they're like, Oh, we're finally the wait till marriage. And I'm like, there are so many day-to-day stuff or like just even them sleeping or their bathroom habits that you learn. And, it's can I live with this? And that's true for me, it does matter at times. Because I know I could be a stickler in my ways and the way I want certain things. organized

Eric: 11:56

see at that point, I would just be like, you organize it all yourself. Do you know how you want it done? And plus you personally like yeah. Love to clean.

Gil: 12:05

I do. I like to clean, it's funny because the thing I don't like to do is fully decorate. I will provide them money. I'm like, do what you need to do. And that's where my husband at least takes over for me. And he's Oh, take right away. I'm like, excellent. Great job. I don't have the patience after a while with it. And that's where, one of my things I like, I don't have a lot of patients. I need somebody with the patients,

Eric: 12:29

you know what? I actually, I'm pretty impatient myself, which I find interesting because I'm so chill. But if someone's supposed to pick me up at a certain time, I want them there at that certain time. I'm like, Oh my God, I'm having to wait five minutes. Like I start getting irritated, but I'm also the same person. Oh, I'll be there in 10 or 15 minutes. And then 30 minutes later I show up. So I'm like, you can be patient for me, but I like really impatient when it comes to waiting for somebody else or for something to happen. If I'm expecting this thing to happen and it hasn't happened yet, I'm like this was supposed to happen already.

Gil: 13:04

I'm totally with you. I've actually exactly the same. I hate to wait on people. If you told me at eight 30, it's eight 30. If I do a 40 rolls around, I'm already like annoyed. Am I ever on time? If I have to be I'm generally running a little late.

Eric: 13:20

Yeah. It's funny because I always make the joke that I could say like I'm supposed to be at work at nine o'clock I'm there usually between eight 57 and nine Oh three. Like I'm, they're like, okay here, 15 minutes early and I'm leaving 15 minutes before now when I was a dancer. And also when I did what theater I have done, when I did acting, I was like, super Ahead of time. I was there early. Cause you have a call time typically, which is usually at least I'm going to say 30 minutes to an hour before I was there, like an hour and a half early, I was like all ready to go. Cause I I knew I had people depending on me. Correct. And I don't want to be the person who lets other people down. So when it came to my love of the arts and being within the arts, I was there like super early. All my costumes were laid out. I had time to do makeup and then just chill. And yeah, I was at that point, very respectful of time when it came to dance and theater and call times. Cause you have your scene partners that you have to be there for.

Gil: 14:33

So do you prefer a taller guy, shorter guy, someone, your height don't care. You know what? I

Eric: 14:38

don't really care anymore. It used to be, I wanted someone taller but I've been with people shorter. Okay. And I'm not very tall myself. I'm five seven on a good day. Five, six and three quarters on a normal day. And yeah, I don't mind necessarily. I've been. It's, I've been with both. And I like both. I've been with someone who is like my height and that was fine too. It also depends on I guess personality like comes into that too for me. And then also of course sexual role. Yeah. But at the same time, I've also been with tops that are shorter than me, and I've been with bottoms that are taller than me. I consider myself vers, although I will go into positions now, I guess I used to consider myself more bottom. Yeah.

Gil: 15:22

I remember you mentioned that before. It was like, I only bottom and then cause I

Eric: 15:26

I have a really big ass and I used to have a really pretty ass quarantine has not been kind to my ass right now. It's just big. But I used to have a really pretty ass too. So I used to have bottoms that wanted to top me because my ass was so nice. Yeah, I was like always bottom and then I started meeting people who wanted me to top because I have the, I don't know that. Look that I'm a top. I don't know what that means, but

Gil: 15:54

I know people try to stereotype about as Oh you must be this. Or you look like this. It's so

Eric: 15:59

sounds good. Want to do that too? And it was fun and it was fine. And you have tops have privileged. You don't, you can pretty much eat whatever you want and not be worried about it. Whereas the bottom, you have to be on a strict diet and you have at least an hour of prep time before. You meet up with somebody,

Gil: 16:16

at least you're ready to go. Yeah. Yeah.

Eric: 16:20

Yeah. Cause I've hooked up with people before and they're like, can you come down? And like 20 minutes, I'm like, dude, you just hit me up. Like now I have to go prep. Like I have got to go. Clean out and douche and everything else, be ready. Correct. And then I have to drive over there. So it's going

Gil: 16:38

to kick it old school.

Eric: 16:39

yeah, know. I try not to do that. So I'm like, if it's just a blow job, then yeah. You can be there in 10 minutes. But if there's, if you're wanting more, the possibility of more than it's going to be. Little bit longer for me to get there. It's give

Gil: 16:51

you time. Yeah, it's funny because with me, I've never dated anyone short. We probably could call this the short podcast because I'm only five, four. I barely fight for the likelihood of me finding somebody at my height or shorter. It's very, at least for me, it's been very low.

Eric: 17:10

I've been with someone shorter than you though. Shorter

Gil: 17:12

than me. Really? I in for me, it, everyone says every day to me it's always been taller. I think the shortest guy data was five, 10. Oh, and then the tall was six two. So I've been somewhere in that range of,

Eric: 17:26

you don't have to like, worry about knee pads or anything like your knees are completely safe.

Gil: 17:31

Oh, I'm a gentleman. Of

Eric: 17:32

course not. You don't, you can just stand and be at waist height.

Gil: 17:36

I'm ready to go. It's the Asian compact. I'm ready to go. Yeah I've never had to do that. And. Like a predominantly bottom, there's been a few cases where I've actually topped and I'm like, I actually did not

Eric: 17:49

know that. Yeah. I want to explore this a little bit.

Gil: 17:53

It's very far in between, but almost what am I doing? What's going on here?

Eric: 18:00

So are you aggressive?

Gil: 18:02

when I do. I can be okay. There's suddenly, I'm like, I'm rawr I'm like, who are you? Oh, but yes. Cause I

Eric: 18:11

typically aggressive. Yeah.

Gil: 18:13

It was really weird. And certainly not. I'm

Eric: 18:16

like, so you've topped Chris then. Yes.

Gil: 18:20

Okay. But that's so far in between when it does.

Eric: 18:23

No, but every once in a while. Yeah. You want to try that other position.

Gil: 18:28

Yeah. Oh, it was like dusted off a little let's get going,

Eric: 18:31

get the cobwebs out. Yeah. So I've had people who, cause I apparently look like the top who wanted me to top to them and I have fun with that too. Like I said, there's top privilege and so that's always well and good. So it

Gil: 18:43

really is everyone always. I like what's, special about them where it's like, what are you doing to prep yourself? At least make it, make yourself clean. Someone's Oh, here we go. I'm like,

Eric: 18:54

Oh, especially if you. are uncut, which is really popularized and very much loved and fetishized in the gay community. Yes. He didn't know that. No, I did. Yeah.an uncut guy or a guy with foreskin is highly sought after it's like a very hot commodity in the gay world. It's highly fetishized, but make sure you keep that clean, pull that skin back. Yeah. Soap, water, and dry.

Gil: 19:20

Yeah. And I think that's definitely a lot of them. Some people don't mind it for me. Keep it clean if it's okay. Yeah. Like hygiene is a thing that's highly suggestive or the 21st century people so you

Eric: 19:32

know what, like going back to nice teeth and everything. and posture, hygiene,

Gil: 19:36

hygiene.

Eric: 19:37

Yeah. I completely, I guess I pretty much thought that was a given, you're right.

Gil: 19:40

Yeah. No, it is not because I've been with some people where I'm just like, Oh my God, what the hell is going on here? You're a gay man. I could, I, God forbid you be straight. I could only imagine how much worse this could be, but there's been some people it's, the cleanliness, your body, your especially your Southern region. I'm like, what's up. What's going on here? Yeah. I don't mind the full Bush, but this also is like the, if it starts smelling. I think that's assemble high level English though. Oh yeah, me too.

Eric: 20:08

If it's shaved and clean, it doesn't bother me. It's not like a deal breaker for me, but if I had to choose, I would probably go for a full Bush. I have to say though, it's weird. Like things that I prefer. Are things that I don't go for myself, if that makes sense. I'm not a huge fan of six packs. Like I can appreciate a pretty six pack, but it's not like my thing, but at the same time, like I don't, I feel like nobody wants me because I don't have a six pack. So that could also be myself.

Gil: 20:44

But it's your self hatred because that's not, especially with the young, the generations now. It's not, they're not, I have to do that either. Remember back in the day, the Abercrombie and Fitch or the Hollister model that look it's dead. It's been dead for quite some time. It is a lot of the new ones. It's all about that body positivity and just making sure it's true. It's changed so much. Or, some of the conceptions that we had growing in a body. Issues that we had, they don't look for, or at least in theory, like I said, we can get into the Grindr apps and all that. And what people say on there? Yeah. Hot mess. I don't of course know what that is because I did, I was dating before that it was during the stone age, we had to meet people in person. They did come to my door, like my food. So

Eric: 21:36

I come to people's doors in a doggy bag all the time.

Gil: 21:39

Is this your pizza order?

Eric: 21:43

Just open it up.

Gil: 21:45

Yeah, I I don't. Yeah, hygiene definitely. Sorry. It's space for a second there. Yeah, it's definitely one of them and. I'm glad at least it feels that we're moving on beyond just the six packs and stuff like that. But it's the guys that dated, who've never been, there were toned, but they weren't fit in that regard. Or they're like these extra muscular guy. That's just never been my cup of tea.

Eric: 22:12

I have been with some that are like super muscular and super cut and super lean. And they're very pretty to look at. But I will say like 45 minutes of having the pelvic bone smashing against your nose is not very comfortable. Like I've literally gotten bloody noses from that happening. And I'm like, Oh my God, like we got to stop for just a minute. And then you get the nose bleed to stop. You're like, okay, now throat, fuck me. some more. Yeah. That's pretty. Yeah. But it's not necessarily my thing. So yeah. Then I guess you go into the personality thing. So would you consider yourself a bottom who occasionally tops then, is that fair to them? Yeah,

Gil: 22:50

that's pretty much me.

Eric: 22:52

It's I would pretty much just consider myself a. Vers through the middle. Yeah. So like when I was

Gil: 22:59

lazy at times, I'm not going to lie with that because I cannot be a true verse. I would be absolutely like, I have to work a little bit more. Like I'm not, I'm like put me in the back. I got it. Okay. Yeah. That's I don't think it's surprise to you, but yeah. I feel like another Asian stereotype there.

Eric: 23:18

Do you prefer to be penetrated or do you prefer to give blow jobs?

Gil: 23:22

I'm actually half and half with that. Okay. Yeah. I can either go either way. I really don't prefer any one over the other because I just enjoy yay. Something's happening. As you remember my first relationship, we're not gonna throw anyone under the bus, but

Eric: 23:36

Every 4.8 months

Gil: 23:37

or something. Yeah. Almost five months. One sexual activity. Every five months. Yeah. Let's call it five. Let's round it up. Okay. how about you, what is your?.

Eric: 23:49

I think I prefer I am actually, I'm super oral. Love giving blow jobs. It's always a big feat for me to be able to completely deep throat, especially like if they're over eight and a half nine, and I can take it all the way down, like I've taken 11 inches all the way down.

Gil: 24:05

What's your Lord. That would go all the way into my

Eric: 24:06

stomach, which was amazing. And on more than one occasion And I like to rim, so I'm super oral. Like I will lick a guy all over his body and I love to kiss. So I'm super oral. That goes a long way. Yeah, it

Gil: 24:23

does count the good kiss. I'm like,

Eric: 24:25

I like a lot of body contact. As far as like actual fucking and stuff, I. I don't know. It depends. It depends on the person. And I know that sounds stupid, but I've been with people who are just like 30 seconds to two minutes and I'm like, really?

Gil: 24:40

What are the things that I can't stand? Especially if they think that they're, they're already hung and they could get away with it.

Eric: 24:45

Yeah, that bothers me because there's a lot of hung guys who are just like, I'm super big, so I don't have to work. And you're like,

Gil: 24:51

that's it. This is all we're doing. Oh, okay. Like it's as vanilla as it gets.

Eric: 24:59

I thought you liked vanilla. Like your, you being kinky is French vanilla versus vanilla bean,

Gil: 25:07

but you gotta do something more than just okay. It's lower than my heart rate.

Eric: 25:15

Sometimes slow is good. Like slow and

Gil: 25:17

deep, slow, deep at push, but Jesus it's the by waiting. Okay. Yeah. Got to get moving. Are you a

25:24

size

Eric: 25:25

queen?

Gil: 25:25

No, because I don't it's I don't like to feel kebab either. Okay. There's not a lot, like I said, I don't have an ass like yours, so he'll be, he'll go through me quickly. That would be already into my upper intestines and my rib cage.

Eric: 25:46

What do you think the perfect size is then?

Gil: 25:48

For me, it's that's about seven. That to me, that is perfect. Like perfect. Okay. I'm happy. I know other people it's 14 minimum and I'm like, no, I would not be happy. Very uncomfortable for me. So no Brazilian men for you. oh god no beautiful. I see them from afar

Eric: 26:05

and I know that's total stereotype, so sorry.

Gil: 26:07

Oh, with you,

Eric: 26:09

I'm not, I used to be a size queen. I will totally admit that I used to be as high as can I be like it? It's gotta be like eight plus inches to even try to get on this ride. Yeah. Nine per nine to 10 was preferred. Not so much a size queen now. Now I'm still a fan of size. Yes. So a nice big Dick is. A bonus. Yeah. We say, but it's not everything to me. And like you said, that I've been with people who are super hung and put a no work. Yeah. And you're like, really? That was it. And I've been with people who are less than average, like five and a half. And. They work it in your life. Oh my gosh. My eyes are like, literally rolling back and my toes are starting to curl. Yeah.

Gil: 26:57

I've been with that where I'm like, Oh, okay.

Eric: 26:59

Okay. I would say probably the best I've ever been with was about seven and a half. Like just the person that was attached to it was really good. And they were about seven and a half. And that was just really amazing. Cause he was just really good. He was from Egypt actually. Oh. Which is like totally my. Dreams will help

Gil: 27:18

you say that's the wheelhouse right there. I love

Eric: 27:20

Middle Eastern and Mediterranean men.

Gil: 27:29

It's funny. I've laughed because I told Chris if I was single and I did schooling, like abroad back when I was in college, I don't think I would ever came back. I would have been a gigantic ho across the Continent

Eric: 27:40

Yeah. I wish I would have had that opportunity to like, Oh yeah, they would've just erected. A Plaza for me where I'm just like open in the splits. Everyone just takes a turn,

Gil: 27:49

but it'll statue of you in Athens. Hey. Yeah. Yeah. I just laugh at myself and like my God, if I went, when I was younger, it could have been different.

Eric: 28:00

So what's your favorite position or positions? We can say positions cause.

Gil: 28:06

The one I like is let's see me on my side. More of a sideways, it's more of how if I'm going to get penetrated, that's the way I prefer. Because then you could grab me from the front or grab my hair, or however I enjoy it versus being just something back or on my, I don't like being on my head, my knees

Eric: 28:22

they've never touched the ground cause everybody

Gil: 28:25

yeah, that's for me, that's what I prefer. Just because if it feels a little bit more intimate, because that's, for me, it's always like the intimacy part is I wanted to make, I want to feel on all. It felt like I'm just like your $4 trash off of central kind of thing, where I'm like, Oh, don't look at me.

Eric: 28:41

But sometimes that's fun

Gil: 28:43

if I'm filthy drunk, perhaps there's something that comes out.

Eric: 28:47

Sometimes it's nice to just be fucked. Like you're like a $2 whore

Gil: 28:53

classy bitch. Okay.

Eric: 28:56

Be fuck like your a hundred dollars an hour. whore you're still being fucked, like a whore. Sometimes that's fun. Like you want to, you want it to be the person doesn't love you. Like sometimes that's just, And what about topping the, like the two times that it's happened?

Gil: 29:09

All two times in the last decade. We only seen really one with that because he's not as comfortable. That was bottoming. Okay. Yeah. So you take, it's a slower for

Eric: 29:19

him and plus he's seven-five and you're, you said five, four. So that's of

Gil: 29:24

course, great dane and a Chihuahua. It is fascinating when it does happen. Yeah. Oh, t's open the kama sutra book

Eric: 29:34

you didn't, which page you didn't answer the question of what position you prefer as a top?

Gil: 29:42

I know it's like when I do, sorry, I'm looking back through the decades online, which I don't think it taught tough enough to really have a favorite.

Eric: 29:56

Okay.

Gil: 29:57

Yeah. I can't really, because it's so far between, I'm like, That's so sad.

Eric: 30:06

I think I'm pretty boring. Actually. I don't want to say I'm boring. I don't think I'm boring, but I really like doggy style. I think that's fun. Yeah, I really liked doggy style and I liked as a bottom. I liked doggy style and I like to ride but I'm also super open to experimentation. Yeah. So I'm cool with being like flung around and having my legs bent and every which way. Yeah, but I guess that was, I say those were probably my two favorites as far as being a bottom. And as far as being a top, I actually prefer, I like two positions either my bottom on their side and I'm just coming at them or Again, like doggy, but like with my leg lunged over their hip. Okay. Cause I think that gives me more leverage. Yeah. And I'm short. And most of the bottoms I've been with are taller than me.

Gil: 30:59

Oh geez. Oh, so you're my situation then.

Eric: 31:01

So yeah. I would say they're like anywhere from five nine to six to, yeah. And so I'm like I have to get on a stool and a ladder just to get it.

Gil: 31:16

I wonder if any of our listeners has the same situation like us?

Eric: 31:19

I don't know. We'll see. We'll probably we'll get some

Gil: 31:22

comments are like, Oh my,

Eric: 31:25

my ears are burning.

Gil: 31:26

I expected something different from you. I expect this something like page 48 of the Kama sutravolume four. This is the position flying monkey.

Eric: 31:38

So now I'm down to try anything. Yes. But we're just talking about favorite positions. Yeah. That's true.

Gil: 31:45

Because to me it gets the job to me, gets the job done. It's Oh yeah, this is nice. It's a nice rhythm. Generally, at least, for me, I'm like, okay.

Eric: 31:52

Yeah, I. Yeah. Kama Sutra is fun, but I don't know. I probably, honestly, not as experienced as a lot of people think I probably am. So I've definitely had my freaky moments, but yeah, I don't know.

Gil: 32:08

So what is an ideal date for you? An ideal date. You're out with men, the guy he's bro, let's go out. What do you think someone tried to take you out?

Eric: 32:22

Okay. So someone like actually asking me that like never happens. That's been like two years since I've been on a date. I actually really prefer like a walk kind of date, like a walk in the park. Or even just meeting for tea, but having like really meaningful conversation for I want to, I want to be around the person for a couple hours, at least not just Oh, let's meet for tea. Hi. How are you? Good. How are you? Okay, nice to meet you. Bye. I'm not that type of thing. I actually have some sort of connection. Yeah. But I guess I would say like a walk. I think walking is great. I don't. Like movie dates. I will do them, but I'm not a fan of it because you are supposed to be watching this movie. And so there's no type of interaction. There is no connection there. And if you're going to be like making out with me and groping me and on top of me, I'm like damn, I want to watch the movie. So yes, you brought me to a movie to watch a movie. And I don't like, I don't like food dates, like I don't like dinner dates. I don't like lunch dates. Just cause I have so many personal issues with food. Okay. So that's something that we'll bring out later. That's part of the, like the baggage that we'll like, like 10 to 15 weeks down the line. Yes. But not really that far. The last date, the. Not the last date I was on, but the last person that I actually quote unquote dated, the first date we went on was actually to a restaurant. We met for Korean food. And I love Korean food. If anyone doesn't know that Korean food is my favorite. So at that time I did break my rule, but no. Yeah. I just like the whole, like walking in the park, maybe cuddling under the stars and talking and that's, I guess like my ideal date, I'm pretty like easy is or aim easy, but it's, I'm pretty chill when it comes to that. I'm not expecting to be like wined and dined and whisked to Paris and all that other stuff. It would be nice, but it's not what I'm looking for. And I'm not one for. I'm not a big drinker anyways. So I'm not one to go and get sloshed on our first date because I'm already, I'm easy enough as it is. I don't need to be drunk and easy. And of course, like I love going to clubs and I love to club. I love to dance. But on a first date, probably not. Yeah. Probably want to do that, like on a second or third date. So you can see how I move on you, but

Gil: 34:48

I'm with you on that because it's like, for me, it's the ideal date is let's go get coffee, let's talk, let's go, maybe walk an art exhibit or, acoustic guitar or watching a musicians or, I like that interaction. I do not and there's some people that I've gone on dates where I'm like, Oh my that's, this seems going good. Yeah. And then they're glued to their phone and this is phones before the smartphones came out. So there I'm like, what are you playing snake on your phone? I'm confused. Flip phones. Oh yeah,

Eric: 35:17

because you've been married since like phones are like those big, huge, like 10 pound bricks.

Gil: 35:23

Yeah. For quite some time. I'm like, we were still on morse code at times. Always liked the interaction because I need to know if I have. The chemistry with this person, if I'm able to talk or be goofy or any like that it's something that about me where people was take me as, Oh, Gil look serious. I have more what is it? Resting bitch face is what I have. I have RBF. I'm not approachable. And a lot of times, so somebody who has balls to come talk to me, let alone dealing. They're realizing I'm not as serious as I am at all. In any capacity. But it definitely, the conversation piece is the big part. Cause I want to get to know the person. I'm like, okay, what's going on here? Is it worth my time? Because I value my time. It's not be bitchy of me, but yeah. Yeah.

Eric: 36:05

So you are a little bit more than just RBF like that. Part of that is actually a true personality trait of yours. Yeah.

Gil: 36:15

Yeah.

Eric: 36:17

See, like I've been told that I'm intimidating and unapproachable, which I still don't understand that whole thing. I don't see how I'm unapproachable or intimidating by any means, but that's just because I. I know what I see in myself. And it's probably very warped compared to what other people see, but I've never understood that because I've been told that a lot that I am intimidating. I do have RBF. Yeah. Myself. And because I'm so shy and introverted, I don't talk to anybody. If someone engages with me, then I will talk to them. And then I have this really bad habit. It's like my superpower. When somebody is actually interested in me, then I like go overboard. And I'm like, Oh my God, someone's paying attention to me. Someone likes me, let me give them like 15,000 compliments a second and let me like, do everything for them. Because I'm just not used to having people pay attention to me

Gil: 37:16

100

Eric: 37:17

on that. Yeah. Which is it's something I'm actually trying to work on, but like it's not really. Necessarily in a COVID kind of world. Cause I'm not like meeting anybody anyways, but

Gil: 37:27

really you find that person who loves that. Like I said, you find that person. Who's Oh my God, yes. Somebody who's I want them to feel that, that tends to, I want somebody having that same intensity that I feel or something of that nature.

Eric: 37:38

And I think that's partly like my love language as well. Like I. Show appreciation, but I probably go overboard with my showing appreciation, but I will also say this though, because I'm not a person who's going to compliment you unless I actually mean it. Correct. So if you're getting a compliment from me, you deserve it. And if you're getting 5,000 compliments for me, that means I really have some sort of affection for you. Correct?

Gil: 38:04

So will you also value your words? You want your words to mean something? It's not just it's like me. I don't just Willy nilly. Oh, I love you. No, if I don't love you, I don't love you. Yeah. I don't joke about it. I don't, it's because I want to make sure that when I do say it or any kind of words of affections Oh, wow. This is something that's happening when same thing. If I'm giving you compliments, I mean it. I don't like wasting my time. I don't want to waste your time.

Eric: 38:28

Yeah. Like I hate the fake compliments Yeah. So yeah, if I'm complimenting you, yeah. You deserve it also though, if I'm being an ass or a bitch to you, then you earned that shit because I am like the nicest person in the world. If I'm being evil to you, it's because you definitely earned it, you deserve it.

Gil: 38:47

That's your gift to them. Yeah. I can't fake it. That's fake, to your face and talking all that shit behind your back kind of thing. I don't got time for that. I'm just going to be very, like I said, that's new fake orgasm though. No, because I feel like I'm wasting my time. Okay. I've been in some bad situation. I'm like, no, we're done. I just get off. We're good. I'm that person. I just, I can't either. I'm feeling it. I'm just like, no, we're going to stop. Sorry. Yeah, I don't fake it just so we can speed up the process. Okay. I can't, I, yeah. I'm not a woman with that. Oh my God. Yes. This is all 12 inches no, I'm not going lie about it. Yeah. That's yeah. And I'm like dating. What was that like many moons ago, but we still go on our dates. That's the part of the, when you do enter a marriage, it's not like that. How to keep it fresh, how to

Eric: 39:39

keep it fresh.

Gil: 39:39

We like it. We do like to explore, so we'll go to different places. We like to try new restaurants. We. Set aside on our schedules and this way we always share our schedules. Oh, when are we off together? Okay. When we're off on this date, let's go into blah, blah, blah. We try to at least aim just have little goals for us. Just because we do have a lot of things in common while our personalities are quite different in some regards It's but we do like I said we get along with, especially with stuff like that, I was like, okay, what do we want to eat? Or do we want to try? Or maybe we're traveling or doing something like that.

Eric: 40:10

And are you guys open at all or no?

Gil: 40:14

Like open relationship? Oh We're not, I know. We're like in the minority, I guess

Eric: 40:18

with that, you've been traveling. If you guys are in Rome, you're not gonna be like, Oh, these Roman guys are great. Let's.

Gil: 40:23

No, it's, it's something that we've, like I said, we've talked about that too. It's kinder. Yeah. Because we want everything out on the table. Okay. And I've pretty much laid off my rules or my things and stuff like that. And just like he has And now when we were in line with, so it's not Oh one one-to-one doesn't we both were in line because we want to make sure that we're both getting the same. Amongst our other friends who are in relationships, we're probably one of the few who are not in an open, in some capacity. And, like I said, if that works for you, that's perfect for us. It's just not our thing. Yeah. It

Eric: 40:55

works for some people and it works great for some people. Yeah.

Gil: 40:57

And some people love it. Absolutely love it. And, like I said, especially in, I know amongst the, some of the older community that I've talked to, have people, even at my work was mentioned like, Oh my God, you're monogamous completely. Yeah. I get this frown and I'm like, I know, but that's, for us, it's just worked all this time. Okay. Yeah, nothing's popped up yet, pop it is what it is. Yeah. And like I said, if it works for you guys, excellent. More power to ya. There's nothing to knock it. I said, sometimes you need that third person or fourth or fifth. Yeah.

Eric: 41:36

So what's the kinkiest thing you've ever done.

Gil: 41:40

No cause you're asking Mr. Vanilla.

Eric: 41:42

You just said you wanted more than vanilla

Gil: 41:44

your course. If you're talking to big game, I expect the big

Eric: 41:47

game. Okay.

Gil: 41:49

Yeah. If you don't, I hate it. When a guy will be talking to the guy. Oh, they're like, Oh, this is it. Okay. That's interesting.

Eric: 41:58

Okay. So what's the most you've. Deviated from vanilla ism of

Gil: 42:04

vanilla. Oh my Lord.

Eric: 42:06

I have a few stories, but

Gil: 42:09

I know I'm like, I don't really ha I don't think I have anything

Eric: 42:12

like no being tied up at least, or which one. Public sex.

Gil: 42:19

We've done that. We've done the tying up

Eric: 42:23

wax ice cubes. We've done

Gil: 42:25

The food. I didn't care for that. It was pretty the whipped cream part. I just, I don't like being that sticky and I preferred more clean on that part. Yeah, I think that's,

Eric: 42:34

That's something so give us some detail, give us some details on that stuff. We've done.

Gil: 42:40

That's about it. In a picture. Hey, the photo,

Eric: 42:47

take the picture and show us your words.

Gil: 42:51

There I was. I know that we've done that. I'll divert to you. I'll let you pay this the photo.

Eric: 43:01

I've obviously been tied up cause I like I'm into BDSM anyways. So I've been tied up. I carry a riding crop in my car, Honestly, it's not for that. It just happens. Actually it's not in my car anymore because that car got totaled. So I don't have the riding cop in my car. No that the kinkiest things I've done I've engaged in watersports, which is pretty kinky, although I wasn't the one receiving the water, I was the one providing the water. All the guy's boyfriend was asleep in his apartments and we were in the alley in front of his apartments at one 30 in the morning. Under the street light. So that was one thing. I've had sex in church parking lots before

Gil: 43:44

your sin will be washed away. Don't you worry?

Eric: 43:46

I've also hooked up with skaters under like inside the ramps at the skate parks. Like you can crawl into. Yeah. Oh, wow. No, not the one by Cibola other one, the one in paradise Hills. Oh.

Gil: 44:00

Oh,

Eric: 44:01

okay. Okay. Okay. So yeah, you bet you can crawl into the ramps. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah at least you could at this time and okay. Yeah. I've been in there and done stuff there. The kinkiest I probably ever had though was when I lived in Colorado. Oh, we track, I've gotten blow jobs like in back alleys and stuff too.

44:20

Pulse,

Gil: 44:20

the pulse one you. Yeah. Okay.

Eric: 44:23

Behind a dumpster in the alley behind the club. A couple of

Gil: 44:27

times. So I was like, you're inclu

Eric: 44:29

the kinkiest situation. I think I've been in though, and I've done the food and candle wax and blindfolding and all that stuff. It's pretty trite and boring, but I had a guy who hit me up on Grindr and had a very weird request and he wanted me to kick him in the balls. Wow, because that was like a turn on for him. And full force. Oh, we'll get into that. And so it was interesting though, and debated for a minute, like maybe 30 seconds and then I was like, yeah, I'll do it. If that's what turns you on, then that's what turns you on who a, who am I to judge and be, I will probably never have the opportunity to kick a guy in his balls.

Gil: 45:15

Yeah.

Eric: 45:17

And so I let him, I took pictures of my shoes and let him. Pick what shoes he wanted me to bring. And he had me bring four or five shoes. He had me bring, I was like my favorite pair of tennis shoes that I used to go dancing and all the time. And then he had me bring my steel-toe boots. My Vibram FiveFingers cause I used to wear those five fingers. She was all the time. Totally comfortable, very comfortable. I love those shoes. Okay. He had me bring those and I think he had me bring like a pair of dress shoes or something. So I drove to his house. He lived like 45 minutes from where I lived and yeah, for probably two hours. I like kicked really hard in the balls for like almost two hours, I would say. And it was like kicking in with the heel of my foot, with the dorsum of my foot, with the toes, actually standing on them with one foot

Gil: 46:06

cringing right

46:07

now

Eric: 46:08

when I was wearing the toe shoes, grabbing them and twisting the balls like, Oh, it was actually really fun though. It was really liberating and really like freeing. So I actually really enjoyed it because again, when are you going to have an opportunity to do that? And you could take I was like, I can take out so much frustration and you like it. And then he would like to okay let's stop for a minute and be like, okay. And he's okay, let's go again. And literally, like he would get like really hard. He got really hard. Every time I'd kick him, it was like crazy. Wow. And then, but the thing is and that's literally all he wanted. I think we kissed too, but he didn't want anything else. He just wanted me to kick him. And then when he needed to get off, he like got himself off, but he grabbed my shoe. And it was like jacking off with my shoe. Oh. And it was like my favorite shoe. So I was like, don't cum on. My shoe did no, like literally like probably five seconds before he busted his nut. He like threw my shoe off to the side and I was like, Oh God, thank God. My shoe was okay. Oh, So that was probably the kinkiest situation I've been in.

Gil: 47:17

I'm clutching my poor pearls here

Eric: 47:19

that you don't have. Honestly never been in a threesome, which I've always wanted to be in, but every time, something that was supposed to happen, something prevented it from fully happening or from happening at all. So there's been a few situations where I was in the situation, but then. It just didn't work out. So then I was,

Gil: 47:43

and then I've never been in that before, and I'd like to be totally opposed. Yeah. But I never had the opportunity

Eric: 47:52

now. I think I would want, I wouldn't be comfortable being with somebody and bringing someone in. But I would be cool with being the person brought in. Yeah. Which was with all those situations where, and then, yeah, I would be down to be DP'd or spit roasted or gang banged too, but that hasn't happened yet. So

Gil: 48:11

because you were gentlemen, we're waiting after

Eric: 48:13

COVID cause I'm a gentle. Yeah. I'm waiting after COVID. That is probably true. So

Gil: 48:18

yeah, we're waiting till afterwards it all full. For revitalization, like

Eric: 48:23

seven 11 is now open people, 24 hours.

Gil: 48:29

It's dry. I already know once that vaccines and everything, especially during the summer months kick in, there's going to be like this huge spike of everyone sending ed we're free. We're not going to be I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. We're not going to

Eric: 48:40

be. Yeah, like I said, I'm reclaiming my virginity now. Cause it's been so long.

Gil: 48:47

You were born again, Virgin. I am

Eric: 48:51

carrying my Holy book around, read it

Gil: 48:54

back and here comes to cherry or retrying this one more time. But in actuality, especially with, within our community, it's like you already come out and you're restarting again. It's got like that, for us. It's especially experimenting zone like that. It's like it's sloppy. It's

Eric: 49:15

everything as an experiment. I actually just read this book and we're going to be talking with the author we're on this season. Everything is an experiment. It's about owning your pleasure.

Gil: 49:27

Oh, awesome. So we look forward today, listeners stay tuned. I bet no. To be kinky in the boudoir.

Eric: 49:35

Oh yeah. Or, Oh, I bet she's kinky and the bano i think you mean boudoir, bano means bathroom. Ooh, kinky. Where's that from?

Gil: 49:46

I don't know. that's from Love, Victor

Eric: 49:50

it's Lake to Mia when they meet Veronica, the dad's new girl

Gil: 49:53

friend, oh, I'm on that episode. And so I'm like, I should know. Or are you rewatching? I'm rewatching. Okay. I started that. And then after I'm done with having to go to Schitt's Creek. Okay.

Eric: 50:04

I feel like it's time. I will probably go back to a Victor in two weeks when I have time to actually get the countdown..

Gil: 50:13

It was funny because with the openness is that's one of those, like I said, I felt like I'm in the minority of that by far. There's nothing wrong with it. It just, I was like I didn't know. I was like, what do you mean? Everyone's looking at us. So like mortified. Yeah. In any capacity, there's like a lot of head twitches and it's just. We talked about a way in the beginning about that also,

Eric: 50:38

and just the guys talked about it recently.

Gil: 50:39

Yeah. And it was same thing. We just on the same page with it.

Eric: 50:43

Yeah. That's cool. At least you guys know where you guys stand.

Gil: 50:47

Like I said, we were very open about everything from the get-go and I think that's why it made it easy for a lot of things. What

Eric: 50:54

if you got, as you guys get older, you guys decide you want to experiment what you guys be open to that or. I

Gil: 50:59

think if it happens. Okay. But I don't know. I don't foresee it. Like I said, who knows in 20, 30 years that we suddenly see what is our business associate Benji.

Eric: 51:12

Yeah.

Gil: 51:15

Yeah.

Eric: 51:17

What's your relationship with cum

Gil: 51:18

Swallow. Because we to let any of those unborn stay, of course genetic, it goes right to my mouth. Yeah. They are a, the only thing I don't like it on my face. I do not like that. Touching anywhere around this face. It bothers me. Okay. If it slips, go ahead. Oh my, no, my hair, I have gel and that's just added gel. But like pretty much for like chin down. Okay. No problem.

Eric: 51:45

Not an issue front backside. I don't care where inside if there

Gil: 51:49

is skin. Yes. Okay. But I don't like it directly on my face. Okay. It's not caviar. So I cannot have that. Sorry.

Eric: 52:00

It's not JLo's glow.

Gil: 52:03

Oh, what's yourself.

Eric: 52:05

I'm a total cumslot. I love it. I love it anywhere and everywhere. I will roll in it if it's like in the bed and the sheets and it's mixed in with the other, person's like finger paint on my body with it.

Gil: 52:21

I got your name. I got

Eric: 52:22

you. I'm totally that person.

Gil: 52:24

You drawing a calling card. on them yeah, that's cool.

Eric: 52:33

Yeah. I'm totally like all for it.

Gil: 52:35

Yeah. I just, I don't care for any, almost anything touching really my face. It was just always a, I don't know, just do

Eric: 52:42

when people lick your face.

Gil: 52:43

No. Okay, everywhere else. But my face,

Eric: 52:47

cause I will say like one of the hottest things that ever happened to me, I was dancing in a club on the little go-go box. I wasn't a go-go dancer, but I was like on the box still

Gil: 52:56

practically go dancer.

Eric: 52:58

And some guy just jumped up on the stage with me and he grabbed my face and just licked it from like chins have hair and I sweat a lot and they licked all the sweat off my face. And to me it was like so hot. I was just like, wow, that is one of the hottest things that's ever happened to me. And it was so out of the blue. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's fine now what I don't like. Cause I am not into feet. I don't understand the fascination with feet.

Gil: 53:29

Yeah.

Eric: 53:30

But I think, cause I have dancers feet or I had dancers feet, so I'm like, Oh, I don't have ballet feet, but yeah. Yeah. Dancers have nasty feet because we work hard for those calluses. Yeah. And those broken toenails,

Gil: 53:44

half retail fee. Okay. There is calluses stairs. My feet are not this pretty. And my husband tries to keep my feet pretty.

Eric: 53:52

Oh, that's so cute. And romantic.

Gil: 53:54

Yeah. He keeps trying to keep my little feet. Cause I'm just like, Ugh. It is what it is. And he's no, he said you shall not have ugly feet. I'm like, okay. No, Okay. He just wants to make sure they're nice expectation. Yeah no. I don't understand the feet thing. And just to me, it's, like I said, it goes back to the hygienes and just, I don't know, unless I know they're clean, but even then I'm like suspicious understand. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not a big fan of that or the dressing up, like the cosplay things.

Eric: 54:32

I'm not into cosplay. I don't mind dressing up in role playing certain things, but,

Gil: 54:38

but like the majority. Yeah, no go. Yeah. Or the wearing the costumes? What is it? The, Oh, like

Eric: 54:47

the mascots, like furry? Yeah.

Gil: 54:50

Okay. I just thought I had no idea what that was for second. I saw it. I was like, Ooh, what's going on? That's a big off the sport or something. And then I'm like, Oh

Eric: 54:59

yeah, I'm not really into puppy or pony play either.

Gil: 55:02

Yeah. That's not quite my cup

Eric: 55:05

of tea, but I know a lot of people who like it and more power to them. No, absolutely.

Gil: 55:10

We're not knocking anything. It's this is just our own personal, our own thing. What gets us going? But

Eric: 55:17

I will also say if I was with somebody and they wanted that, I would probably be open to trying it.

Gil: 55:25

Yeah, I think it's that trust part. And that I think helps with, especially with the intimacy and stuff like that. If you need to communicate.

Eric: 55:33

Communication and trust is absolutely a must.

Gil: 55:35

Yeah. Those are two absolute must. And especially to keep things going

Eric: 55:40

and that's. Yeah. And that's one thing that's beautiful about a BDSM relationship. Cause they're probably more communicative and trusting than any other relationship you're ever going to see. No, absolutely. And so that's one reason I've, even though I've never seen the movies or read the books of 50 shades, but I've read enough and I've heard enough about them that I'm like, that's just an abusive relationship. That is not an actual relationship. And. I have. So I have an issue with that, that

Gil: 56:08

those books are insulting from what I've gathered in, just every, anyone from the community. It's what the hell is this?

Eric: 56:16

So don't disguise it. No, yeah. Don't justify or misogynistic. We're not going to go into that stuff, but Yeah, I think BDSM relationships are actually just, you could learn a lot from that and the communication involved and the trust

Gil: 56:32

in the trust. Yeah, but I definitely the key, like I said, the communication part is key in getting, In any kind of intimate situations. And I think people forget that where they could tell them, Hey, this does not working. Try this position. Or maybe this is hurting communicate. Don't just accept it or assume everyone knows what you're feeling because they may not know a lot of times they don't know. Yeah. I think

Eric: 56:53

communication, I think communication is definitely important, especially when you're getting to know somebody. And even if you do know somebody and they're like, yeah, that's just, that doesn't feel good today. Let's try it this way. Like I

Gil: 57:04

said, I've been with 12, almost 12 years together and we still have flipped things or switch that up or do that because it's not the same thing works all the time. Sometimes everybody's, body's ready to go. And sometimes it's refusing plus that'd

Eric: 57:18

be really boring if it was the same thing all the time.

Gil: 57:20

Yeah. So you got to communicate and, just let them know, like I said, we're not perfect. It's not like we were built with them. We had the instructions. Day one. We're like, man, here we go.

Eric: 57:34

I am perfect. Yeah, of course. And you don't need instructions from me. Just hit the on button and it's ready to go. And honestly, the on button for me is someone just saying, hi, how are you

Gil: 57:47

ready?

Eric: 57:48

Let's go.

Gil: 57:51

Yeah, that's good. That's good to know. So anyone available, ready to go? They know Eric stuff.

Eric: 57:59

You can hit me up at info.TheQLounge@gmail.com or through our contact page at the at TheQLoungepodcast.com. I intercept all those messages first, anyways and it'll still be, our inbox will still be crickets. So it's

Gil: 58:17

okay. Our tumbler, my army, a tumbler I our TikToks might be able to take off a little bit at

Eric: 58:25

dark. I actually posted my first tiktok. Oh, did you. Yeah, it was a preview for this podcast.

Gil: 58:32

Oh, awesome. I definitely need to go sign. I have the tumble or the, I keep saying tumbler dammit, take talk, right?

Eric: 58:39

I know what's on your mind after our last conversation about Tumblr. So tumblers

Gil: 58:43

return side of the land Oh, hello. I'm walking heading of Spain. Yes, I do. Oh my God. Yeah. When I was out there, I was like, God, bless these men. The wedding ring burning my finger.

Eric: 59:04

Oh, I'm going to put it in my pocket. So no one takes it.

Gil: 59:06

Hell I almost lost him in Italy. He was

Eric: 59:09

gone. That's why I was asking if you guys are like in foreign countries, you guys. Yeah,

Gil: 59:15

we're out of Europe. As I remember what I went up to him, he was all this guy and he looked at me. He's they don't recognize our marriage here and entered and continued walking. Oh, goodness. All jokes

Eric: 59:31

with a slice of

Gil: 59:32

truth slice of truth. I don't want to be rude in a foreign country. Of course.

Eric: 59:42

Oh, that's good. That's good to get to hear some of those stories. Some of that stuff I didn't know about you. So that was always fun to learn.

Gil: 59:51

Yeah. I know, especially I was going to say, when you're talking to friends, stuff like that, it's very fascinating that some of the things that you learn over time or over the years where you're like, Oh, I didn't know that, or, Oh, that's what I expected or ha I won that bet. I'll bottom shocker.

Eric: 1:00:07

And I always say. The only thing taboo is not talking about the taboo. Yes.

Gil: 1:00:13

And that's what the, the whole time I've known you what? 15 years? 16 years. Yeah.

Eric: 1:00:19

I think I pretty much have always said that. Yeah. You're 35, 34

Gil: 1:00:24

30. We're going to be 35 this year.

Eric: 1:00:27

Okay. So I've known you about 16

Gil: 1:00:28

years, six to come. My God time flies.

Eric: 1:00:31

When you're having fun, which is a Janet song,

Gil: 1:00:34

Oh God, I had these, a young children with gen Z is telling me, Oh my God, it's so old. I'm like the song came out three years ago. Yo, you can't be nostalgic already three years. Sorry, what song was it? I don't know. I try to remember what it was, but it was like three, there goes my old memory. But it was a song that wasn't too long ago. It was one of the Oh God, which one was it? It was something from like Carly Rae Jepsen from her something from like 2017 that she released and Oh my God, this is such a classic. It's three years old. What's up big classic is 20 years old. Something from 2000. Yes. In sync or Brittany's third album. That's a little play on the classic side. I could get that

Eric: 1:01:22

Ariana Grande's dangerous woman, which is a great song by the way, is a classic now Gil I'm just kidding. Did you see her? Netflix documentary. I actually haven't finished watching it, but I will say this was, I had to give her mad props for this. I will probably burn in hell for this, but it's not any worse than having sex in a church parking lot. She did, God is a woman, which is an amazing song in itself. It's the whole, like setup was the last supper. Oh, And then the guys were dancing behind them and then they were like on the table with their legs open and the guys crawled on top of them. And they did the, this whole last supper thing. And I was like, Oh my God. She really went there. I had to give her mad props for that. I actually super adored that.

Gil: 1:02:07

Let's say she's like on, that was a Madonna when she did the like a prayer. Yeah, here

Eric: 1:02:13

we go. That was. I actually really liked that song and I'm not to, but I was super proud of Ms. Grande for damn. I was like, you need to watch that. It's like right in the beginning. Okay. She does. God is a Woman. And I was like, cause she just referenced the last supper. Oh my God. Yes. So perfect. Thank you guys for joining us and we will talk to you next time when The Q lounge.

Gil: 1:02:49

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Eric: 1:03:15

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