Feb. 10, 2021

Season 2 Episode 2

Season 2 Episode 2

A brief discussion of Gay cinema and television

Transcript

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Eric:

Hello and welcome to the Q lounge. I'm Eric

Gil:

and I'm Gil.

Eric:

Yeah. Thank you for joining us for another session in The Q. So really quickly G il I Just want to let our fans know that I went ahead and did some updating from last season. We had a lot of guests last season and I probably wasn't as good at keeping show notes as I should have been. So if you go onto our website, that's. TheQLoungePodcast.com. You can go to the individual episodes and there will be more on some of the show notes. Specifically the Nick Capra episode and the Sean Zevran episode, where you can. Get to their Twitter link. So you can get to their only fan links, Tik TOK links. Sean Zevran has the Black Panther Disciples and you can get to their Twitter link. Plus he's also doing a GoFundMe through the Black Panther Disciples to help raise money for the houseless populations in LA. And so you can go ahead and donate to that as well. All the links are there. You just click on the click on it and it'll take you to the page. And another thing I'm very aware that this episode drops a few days after the super bowl. So Gil and I will not have our commentary on the Superbowl on this episode coming up, even though it will be after the super bowl. So you'll probably have to wait until next week's episode so that we can. Have our little discussion on football and if the Weeknd surprised us or not with that good show. Yeah, so I just wanted to put all that out there. Also, if you go to our podcast website again, that's TheQLoungePodcast.com. You can see where we have our swag, which we have t-shirts and beanies and. Backpacks and all that fun stuff. Or you can also visit SeksTeez.com, S E K S T E E Z.com. And there's The Q Lounge link up there, which will take you to the swag there. Plus there's a lot of other cool designs in their other collections like Intellectual THOT and HARDCORE SEKS. And one other thing. You can also, if you are on our web page, you can look up at the top. And there's a menu option that says A Moment of Death. That's my book. So that will take you if you click that will take you right to the Amazon link to buy my book. If you want to support me that way. And it's always, you can always hit the donation button to support us any further, if you would like to. And. So thank you. And I just wanted to get all that little housekeeping stuff out. So Gil what's up. It's always a mouthful. I love a mouthful, especially if I can gargle with it.

Gil:

Listerine of course. Oh, of course, gentlemen, on this show,

Eric:

you know what though, it's really fun to put Listerine in your mouth when you give a blow job.

Gil:

Want to have it done

Eric:

in pop rocks too. And if you're going to toss the salad, you might want to get some like I'm confection sugar. Gil is like super red right now.

Gil:

Yes.

Eric:

This is a gay podcast, right?

Gil:

Yeah. So did you hear about our beautiful dear friend GOP representative Marjorie Taylor Greene?

Eric:

Yeah. Oh my gosh. So I don't know if anyone knows I'm a huge David Hogg fan, one of the survivors from the Parkland shooting. And they've been having like this whole battle because she was harassing him and trying to troll him and all this other stuff, because she's. Nasty. And so we all know that she got her committee's taken away. Hopefully if you don't know that she was voted out to get her committees taken away and 11 Republicans actually crossover shockingly. Yes. Good and good for them. David Hogg posted this thing. It's a picture it's got four pictures and it's got a Pentagon and it says Pentagon. And then it has like a hexagon and it says hexagon and it has an octagon. It says octagon. And then it has a picture of her and it says hercommitteesgon. It's the greatest thing. I was laughing so hard. It was like, so good. I needed a cigarette and I don't even smoke, but like my eyes rolled back. My toes curled. Like it was great. It got me off so well. So yeah, it was pretty funny and he's also going to be doing he's going to be doing his own pillow line to basically fill the void of my pillow since my pillow a it sucks and be okay. Lindell is going down because of all his conspiracy theories and all that other stuff. And then people were trying to troll him and they put a picture of him calling him the, my pillow biter, like the pillow biter, the derogatory gay term. And they had a picture of him holding this huge rainbow Dick pillow. And trying to like, troll with that. Yeah. Troll him and shade him and all kinds of other stuff like that. And he's Hey, so he tweeted it. And I was like, Hey guys, if we did this as a limited edition pillow, and we gave all the proceeds to LGBTQ plus causes, like who would be interested in that? I was like, I would totally buy a couple pillows from you. If you, if this becomes a thing, let me know. And I will definitely buy some pillows.

Gil:

No, absolutely. I was like,

Eric:

I thought the same thing too. It's what's the problem with that? We can practice our deep throating. Yeah, but I didn't mean to cut you off. What were you going to say about what's her name? No,

Gil:

that's all this one is that the heffer, she is removed from her committees. They, it was just one of those wonderful days. That was somebody that might use newsfeed. And I was like, Oh good. It's been nice. Yeah. Weird also that I've not checked my news feed to see who, what the president's saying today on Twitter or which country is pissed off at us today, or, anything of that nature. It's been very calm.

Eric:

It has been a lot calmer. I will say though, McCarthy's a little wimpy dude. He has no type of backbone whatsoever. I don't know what else to say. I guess I'm trying to be a little bit more politically correct.

Gil:

If we could do what we

Eric:

want to that. And who else was I gonna bash really quickly on the GOP side? I don't remember, but one by one I have issued, who I have issues with. Who's not, he's not a Republican. He might as well be though is Joe Manchin, the Senator from West Virginia. He has a lot of power right now. People don't realize how much power he has because he's so moderate leaning and he votes with the Republicans a lot of the time. And so even though he's Democrat he's, if he moves over and votes with Republicans, like the tie break doesn't even matter. Correct. So he has a lot of power. Yeah.

Gil:

Especially coming. I think it's because he's trying to save his job being the only Democrat coming out of that Hill. That's really what it comes down to is that he's just doing his best to show that he is. In the middle, he's able to compromise with the Republicans, but right now this is not the time to do yeah. I

Eric:

mean he did vote to confirm Kavanaugh. Yeah. And we all know how I feel about that.

Gil:

Refer to the previous episodes.

Eric:

I still stand with her yeah. But let's Take it a little bit lighter today Gil. I think we, we tend to Yeah, I actually, so I don't know a lot of people may or may not know this about me. I've never really been into gay cinema.

Yeah.

Gil:

I

Eric:

knew I know you did. I know you knew you're just mocking me. I think it's just cause I was, it was a level of comfort with myself that I wasn't really, yeah. So that was, it. Wasn't an issue with gay cinema in itself. It was an issue with myself. So I didn't want to like submerge myself into it, but I've been watching a lot since the since quarantine. I think I watched a different movie. Like almost every day I watch a different movie, like all the time from all over the world. And there's some really good ones out there. Oh,

Gil:

yeah. Oh, there are. It's funny because for me, I got exposed to those two that the gay cinema through Chris, through my husband. He's the one who's very big on it. He's always been since he came out me, I'm not a big movie person to begin with my attention span. I'm okay. I have love shows. I like quick witty 25 minutes shows. As long as it keeps my interest going, because I feel like I have lots to do in my day. I like to go out and enjoy the outside world for me. So movies are to me like but during quarantine I did do a lot of same thing. Like you starting to rewatch. Yeah. Cinema films as well.

Eric:

Yeah. And we're hopefully going to have a director of a lot of them later on this season. So that will be fun too. Yes. So I'm excited about that.

Gil:

So what are say some of your. Since it's a newer to you and it's fresh in your memory. Do you have a list of your top 10 or maybe your highly recommended? Oh yeah,

Eric:

definitely. I have some that I'm like rewatching. Perfect. So let's are we talking? Just movies?

Gil:

Let's go Mo let's go movies before we go to shows, because the shows obviously that's another or gay leaning or. Okay,

Eric:

so really quickly, I just want to give a huge shout out to all the representation that we've been starting to get lately. Yes. And trans representation. That's starting to happen lately. Hunter Schafer from Euphoria, you guys all know I love Euphoria and Hunter Schafer who plays Jules and then I don't know if anyone saw the new Saved By the Bell reboot. I'm a huge Saved By the Bell fan. And not that the original series was great, but I love it. It's like one of my favorite TV shows of all time passed away. Oh, Dustin diamond. Yeah, he did. And I guess he was going to be on the second season of the reboot. And he had made peace with all his costars because there was some beef there when he wrote like a tell all book and stuff. Yeah. But yeah, like I just found out he had cancer like a week or two ago, like it was announced. And then all of a sudden he was dead and I was like, Whoa,

Gil:

but in the new

Eric:

reboot, there's an actress on there who is also trans. Oh, Josie Totah. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, it's really cool. And it, her character is also trans, but it's not her main storyline. Like it's briefly brought up in passing and I think that's really awesome. So I just want to give a little bit of a shout out to the fact that there's a little bit more representation happening.

Gil:

Yes. Finally,

Eric:

let's go to list of movies. I'm just going to list them off and then if we want to dissect them, we can. Okay. And I want to hear your list as well. Oh,

Gil:

sorry. Everyone has his little pup is in the background. It's adorable. Oh yeah.

Eric:

Leo is trying to be in the spotlight. If anyone doesn't know, I have beautiful little poodle miniature poodle named Leo he's blue. And he's in a German clip right now. Anyways, I can talk about dogs forever. So my favorite movies, and this is not going to be in any specific order. Yeah. And it might be more than 10. It might be more than 15. I don't know. And it may be three. So Shelter. Okay. Love that movie. And it's like on everyone's like top list. And so when I first watched it, I was like, I got to see why everyone says that we have to watch this and I couldn't get it anywhere. I had to get the Here TV plugin from Amazon in order to watch it. And I still have here TV, even though I don't really watch anything on it, but because it has that movie when I should just buy the movie. But yeah. A great show. So if you have not seen Shelter, it is a great movie. And it has a happy ending. It has a beautiful ending. Most of these are very tragic.

Gil:

I was going to say most of the case, cinema, it ends in death, more death, or a breakup.

Eric:

Akron. I love that movie. I actually, so I, so let me go back to Shelter. I think I've watched Shelter three or four times now because I'm just like, Oh, I'll just watch this. Akron I watched for the third time last night. No, two nights ago. Great movie. I love that movie. It's. It's got it's got this nice little twist in it that you, coming only because of the way the movie starts, but you're just like, Oh my God, like, how would you handle yourself in that situation? And I dunno, it's just a really pretty movie. I just really liked the movie. And of course the boys are hot, but that was probably true of all gay cinema movies. Cause they always pick the aesthetically perfect guys. But that's another show. and let's see A Moment In the Reeds. I

Gil:

had

Eric:

some great movie. It's a Dutch film. Oh, the Dutch have some amazing movies.

Gil:

That's what you mentioned before.

Eric:

Yeah. They have some amazing movies. So this one is actually like in English and Dutch. Okay. So the father in the movie speaks Dutch and so his son talks to him. But the other guy who is, I want to say he's from Syria, but he's somewhere from the middle East, he speaks in English. And so the young, the, not the young son, but the son also speaks to him in English. So it's like half and half, but that's a really good movie. The ending was a little sad, but it was a good movie. Just friends is another good movie. I just watched that one for the second time, the other night as well. And that's another Dutch film. Very good movie. I really liked that one a lot. Consequences. That's a CzechoSlovakian film. Oh. And that's a harsh film. But it was really good. I really enjoyed it. Let's see what other movies? The Blonde One was a very sexy movie. It's an Argentinian film and those Argentinian films are DAMN

Gil:

there. They're a movie.

Eric:

They're probably like on the border of softcore. Oh, okay. And they show everything. And yeah. We all know South American men are beautiful and well hung and specifically Brazilians, but this is Argentina, but yeah, The Blonde One is a great movie and it has a bittersweet ending. Like it has this like horrible, sad ending. And then the actual ending makes you smile, if that makes any sense. So The Blonde One is a very good movie. I would definitely recommend that one. TaeKwonDo was an okay movie. I don't know why I just brought that up, cause it just popped into my head. It's got a lot of, eye-candy a bunch of Brazilian guys that are like hanging out, like in this bro pad shirtless and in their underwear. And there's just a lot of like sexual tension between two other people. So that one was pretty decent. Monster Pies. Oh, yes, that movie is super good. It's an Australian film. So I didn't need to read for that. That will be super sad though. I actually texted your husband like the next day and was like, have you seen this movie? I cried for 40. I literally cried for 45 minutes after that movie was over. I just sat in my room. Bawling. It's a really good, it's a really good movie. Yeah.

Gil:

I think that's what he and I are going to be watching on our next, because we both are off on Saturday. So we'll be able to watch

Eric:

that. I want to know what you guys think about it. Emotionally

Gil:

prepare.

Eric:

Yes. What other movie? Teenage Kicks is a good movie. It's another Australian film. I really enjoyed it. It's. A little different, it's got some harshness in there, but it was a really good movie. I looked up to see if anyone had reviews on it and most people had never even heard of it, but it's a really good movie. I highly recommend that movie. What other movies are out there? Cousins. So it's a little, it sounds a little disturbing. That's another Argentinian film. It's that movie is really sexy. It's really good. And the name, the title of it makes it sound a little taboo it's yeah, but they're like second or third cousins, I think so. I think they're like third cousins. But that was a really good movie. Like I wasn't expecting it to be as good of a movie as it was. That was a really good movie. It was also a very sexy movie. Snails in the rain was a pretty good movie. It's a Israeli film. Israeli. Okay. And anyone who knows me knows I love me and Israeli man.

Gil:

There are some good films that come out of there.

Eric:

I wanted it to be, I wanted more from it though. Like I wanted it to be longer because I wanted more of a backstory. But it was still a good, it was still worth watching just if nothing else where the eye candy, but it was a good movie. Now Out in the Dark, which your husband recommended to me is an amazing movie. It is a super sad movie. It didn't make me cry as much as Monster Pies did, but it was a really harsh movie. And that's also an Israeli film.

Gil:

As you remember, there's they make you cry. Some of them that's.

Eric:

Yeah, they do. Most of them are like coming of age and learning how to accept yourself. And then when you add the culture, which we often talk about culture in this podcast, talking about the Palestinian culture versus the Israeli culture where like being gay in Israel is highly accepted. Yeah. It's like more progressive than the United States is by far, especially like in Tel Aviv and stuff. And so that movie was pretty harsh. I saw The Bubble which your husband also recommended.

Gil:

Yeah, I completely forgot. I was the one who had that or I was the one with that movie. Okay. That was what cause he had, he showed me a sad movie and I'm like, okay, I counter you The Bubble

Eric:

that movie. Wow. Like I was not expecting that ending. Yes. And I was, so that movie had me crying too. That movie was really sad. It was a really good movie though. He's a very good movie. And then I saw this documentry actually called The Invisible Men which is exactly what Out in the Dark and The Bubble is about, but it was an actual documentary where they followed. A couple Palestinian guys around who were gay and trying to live in Tel Aviv, but kept getting sent back to Palestine. And they had to be really careful because they could be killed correct. So that was a really good documentary. And it was really hard. It was, I saw it right after I saw Out in the Dark, like the next day. So to like actually to see the fictionalized story and then to see A documentary on it. Yeah. I was just like, Whoa, it was crazy. And then I saw The Bubble like a couple of weeks later, cause I was like, Oh, I should watch it. It comes really highly recommended, but I just didn't want to pay for it. But I ended up renting it because I was like, I really want to see it. And then I'm super glad that I did. I can't talk about gay movies without mentioning Boy Culture.

Gil:

I love Boy Culture. I love that movie. I just watched it at uni does one of our early films. What is, what did we watch it? Oh, seven Oh eight. Something like that. Oh my God. It's been, we want to spend a minute.

Eric:

We watched it with some lesbian friends.

Gil:

Oh yes we did. Yeah.

Eric:

Which Erica is Erica? Yeah. Okay. And Yeah, I remember you and I were both like holding our jackets. Our regions were like, aha. Yeah, this is a really good movie. And I actually had a huge duffle there. They were useful. Darryl Stephens is gorgeous. He's from Noah's Ark. I actually had a little Twitter chat with him. I was super excited. Yeah. And they're all over it. Oh yeah. I'm super star struck, which is really silly. But if I get an acknowledgement from anybody, I'm like, Oh my gosh. But yeah, it was like giving him props because he is a, in the new, Saved By the Bell. He has a small part and he's in the new show, Be Positive which he has he has a small part, but it's a reoccurring part. So that was really cool. And I happen to watch from Zero to, I Love You, which is a movie of his, which is a really good movie as well. I was a really good movie. And then, so I was like, Oh, you know what? I want to watch Boy Culture too. So I just watched it happen to watch Boy Culture. Right afterwards, I did a double Darryl Stephens night and I was, I tweeted it and then he like responded and we had a me propping him and him thanking me. And I was like, that's cool.

Gil:

That's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah.

Boy

Eric:

Culture is a really good movie. I think people need to watch Boy Culture and then I've seen some like really fucked up Strapped was interesting. That one wasn't too fucked up, but it was interesting. Solo was a really terrifying movie.

Gil:

What's that? The one with the weird plot twist? Yes.

Eric:

Okay. Have you seen

Gil:

that? No. You explained it to me. That was one of HR. It was the same one because that's another movie that, but yeah,

Eric:

I was not expecting that plot twist at all. Maybe because I'm dumb. I don't know, but I was just like, Whoa, it's a really creepy movie, but it was good. There's a movie called Absent, which is really good as well. That one was weird. It's about like a T a kid who has a crush on his teacher. Oh, okay. And then God's Own Country's a good movie too. I don't know if you've seen that

Gil:

one. That's the one I wanted to see. I wasn't, I just didn't want to spend that three 99.

Eric:

No, it's a good movie. So yeah. Cause you and I were supposed to watch it. We're supposed to watch it. Yeah. And cause we were Gil and I were doing like movie nights on zoom, but I think we did it like twice, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Gil:

It's like watching movies. It's just yeah. Yeah.

Eric:

So we watched Call Me By Your Name, which I liked more than Gil did. Yeah. I thought it was a good movie. I wanna watch it again.

Gil:

And I think like from a cinematography and like definitely from a soundtrack, loved it. Yeah. Because S fjanu Stevens did the soundtrack and I adore him. But. The movie for me, it was okay. But of course I felt like I'm always in that minority with some popular movies. It's like the Brokeback Mountain, I think it's okay. And see a lot of people who

Eric:

love it. I hated Brokeback mountain. Like I was mad that I spent two and a half hours. I will never get that two and a half hours back, but the only thing good about that movie that the end was sad. I will say that like the whole t-shirt scene or that scene, but the shirt scene, that was sad. That was very sad, but I hated that movie. What other movies? Oh, we did Alex Strangelove. Yes. Which was a really

Gil:

cute, I thought it was cute. Yeah. I

Eric:

really liked it. I think I watched it again. It was a really cute movie and that's right. Cause then like the next night I watched Beach Rats and the same girl who was in Alex Strangelove was in Beach Rats and I was like, girl, she's always getting dumped and screwed over by these gay dudes. But yeah, God's Own Country was a good movie. I watched it now. Oh,

Gil:

good. So I definitely need to go watch it. I'm glad that you ended up watching Love, Simon also. Yeah. I'll

Eric:

get into Love, Simon in a minute. So God's own country is in the same vein as What's that movie called Moment In the Reeds, which I just already talked about. And then I've watched a lot of Rob Williams films lately who he's actually going to be on this season. So I watched. Make the Yuletide Gay, which is a super, I

Gil:

love that's my annual holiday movie that I kick off. Is it's a

Eric:

super cute movie. I really enjoyed it. And then I watched Happiness Adjacent, which I also enjoyed, which was the first movie of his that I watched Long-term Relationship Role-play, which was good. Shared Rooms, which was also good. So yeah. And I've seen the cheerleader movie. I always forget what the name is called. Oh, have you seen Boy Erase, But I'm a Cheerleader. Yeah, that's funny. Yes. That's a

Gil:

good one. Have you seen Boy Erased? I have. It's been a long time. We're talking like over a decade. Yeah. That's not that old. It's not, no, I thought it was, I watched it. That's the only reason I know that movie's

Eric:

harsh. Yeah. About conversion therapy. Yeah. Yeah.

Gil:

Those both, there's quite a few of those ones as well. Yeah. That's always intense.

Eric:

Yeah, that was a really good movie though. I'd been wanting to see it for a really long time. And Nicole Kidman did a great job in that movie and sort of Russell Crowe and not a huge fan of his typically, but he played the pastor very well. Sorry. There's my little bias on religion. Love Simon is a good movie. That was, I watched that movie after it was out in theaters. So I actually watched it like on demand or something. I would just it was like I was looking up something, I think I was looking up Boy Erased and I couldn't find it. And or Call Me By Your Name. I was looking up those two and then it said people who liked this movie often, like this movie. So I was like, Oh, Love Simon. I'll watch that. And I loved that movie. I think I've seen that movie. I want to say eight or nine times. It's a really cute movie. I there's a scene that they cut out though that I wish they wouldn't have cut out a club scene that has Colton Hayes in it. Yeah. But it was a good movie. That's the ideal that correct? Correct. How you want your family to be that liberal and progressive. And, but even it shows that movie shows that even as progressive as his family was, he still had that struggle.

Gil:

Correct because it's never easy and you're always coming out. It's all I can just do it the one time you spend the rest of your life coming out to everyone as you meet them. Yeah.

Eric:

Because it's still just not looked at as the norm or accepted. So yeah.

Gil:

So that's that to me was a good one. My, I know how to I'd actually bake, finally make them lists and I'm like, Hey, which ones did I see?

Eric:

Sorry. I like

Gil:

I'm terrible. I'm terrible. Not at all. I'm terrible at. Remembering movies. I'm like, Oh, I think I've seen it. And once I started getting the synopsis and I'm like, Oh yeah, I have definitely seen it. But like I said, my expansion of gay movies is definitely through Chris. I did not have a lot. Did I tend to stick to the same few handful it's just the way I am. Even with TV shows, I would watch the same six. Sitcoms over and over. No,

Eric:

I do the same sitcoms and I watch, I used to watch a lot of reality TV. I used to watch. I was a huge Housewives fan and I'm still a Housewives fan, but I'm watching less and less of the Housewives now. Oh, I will say really quickly. There's a couple Asian films that I really want to watch a couple of South Korean gay cinema films and one from Taiwan as well. Go ahead.

Gil:

Cause, Oh yeah. Cause for me, I liked a lot of the French. I tend to lean towards a lot French cinema music and stuff like that. The Man I Love I can't, I will not pronounce it in French. I won't even attempt. But I liked that movie. That was a really good one. That. Yep. Yeah, that, that was a pretty good one. I think it's from 90, late nineties, 97, 98. Okay. And that, one's just about, it's like a coming of age guy goes to college falls in love, with like the TA. Kind of thing and they build a kind of a bond

Eric:

I've come across that movie, but I haven't actually watched it yet.

Gil:

Yeah. I like it. It's very cute. It's very of it's of its era. It's time. Enjoy that one. I am Mambo Italiano. It's just ridiculously funny. I haven't seen that one either.

Eric:

Oh, you're gonna need all these movies and be like, all, huh?

Gil:

No, there is quite a few, my, my spectrum has been all over the place and the years and let's see something a little bit more recent that I love is hold on. I have by, sorry. I have my little list here. Let's see. What do I like, obviously we talked about. Alex Strangelove. One that made me cry was Between Love and Goodbye. And that's a tragedy at the very end that's where that twist happens and everything seems like it's about to hit normal and it just falls right off the railing.

Eric:

That's like a Monster Pies, Monster

Gil:

Pies. Yeah it just it's, it starts out great that they have their big TIFF and problems issues. Everyone's trying to come together and it seems like everything's right about to seal and put everything explodes. That's like the end of The Bubble. Yeah. Oh Jesus. David's Birthday Italian.

Eric:

I haven't seen that one. I did see Henry Gamble's birthday or Henry Gamble turns 16 or something like that. That was a weird movie. Yeah.

Gil:

The Way He Looks a little bit more recent. That's the one I like it's a Portuguese. Okay. I haven't seen that one either. It's a guy who's deaf. And they are signing to each other.

Eric:

Okay. Yeah. I know what movie you're talking about because I come across that one.

Gil:

It's definitely, it's a coming of age. It's very adorable. Their bond together. To me, great soundtrack has Belle and Sebastian in there. It's yeah I like it. That's a, definitely a real cute one Prayers for Bobby. Okay. That one has Sigourney Weaver, a lifetime. I know era ha but I loved it. It's a base actually Walnut Creek. Yeah. A conversion one based in Walnut Creek here in the Bay area. And they did, to me, they did a great job. Made me cry multiple times. So

Eric:

yeah. That subject matter is harsh. It's harsh. I don't know how you can watch anything on that and not cry and feel something. Yeah,

Gil:

it that's, especially with the religion aspect, religious aspect of it. Let's see. Another one I really enjoy is

Eric:

really quickly again, the woman who, that the woman that's Sigourney Weaver played. She's a huge advocate now. Yes she is.

Gil:

Yeah, that's why I'm thankful for that. I have the book and I just have not read it. It's been one of those I re I've gotta be like, you're

Eric:

like, you're like me. You don't read your read to.

Gil:

Yes. Very Karen Walker of us.

Eric:

I wonder if that's where the Karen thing came from. It could be Walker. Okay, go ahead. Sorry.

Gil:

Yeah, Yossi and Jaeger. It's that same. I want

Eric:

to watch that movie. I have not watched it yet. Yes. And then there's Yossi is like the original originally. Yeah. Yeah. Those are both on my to watch lists. You have to, but I've been in that whole, do I want to rent it? Do I not want to rent it? Do I want to rent it? Do I not want to rent it? Oh, sorry. I don't mean to cut you off. Truth is a really good movie. Truth. Okay. Yeah. How's Sean, Paul Lockhart, better known as Brent Corrigan in it. Oh. But it's like a mainstream movie. It was really good. It didn't get any press, but it's a really good movie. It's also a weird harsh movie and you're like, Oh, my God. That's super fucked up, but I get it. Yeah, go ahead.

Gil:

Sorry. Let's see a German one's called Guys and Balls soccer player,

Eric:

Oh, I haven't seen that one. But have you seen Mario? No, I have not. Which is also about

Gil:

soccer player. Yeah. Always enjoy

Eric:

that. That's a really good movie. And then having Free Fall, which is the German movie that makes that movie's fantastic. See, now that's what Brokeback Mountain wanted to be, yeah, that movie is fucking fantastic. Oh, and The Boys have you, that's another Dutch film.

Gil:

The Boys. Yeah, I don't think

Eric:

I just watched it for the second time, the other day too, but Free Fall. An awesome movie. Okay, go ahead. I keep interrupting. Poor Gil. Who's going to like,

Gil:

There's a lot of movies that were, like the mainstream where like Milk. Milk's a great one. Yeah. I definitely enjoy that one Too Wong. Fu.

Eric:

Okay. I haven't seen that movie in a really long time. I finally seen it. But yeah. And so when that movie, when I watched that movie, I was still like in the whole, like super uncomfortable phase. I was like 18, 19 years old and two years ago. Yeah. Okay. And two years ago, times like 40 No, but as like uncomfortable as I was watching that movie, cause I was just completely uncomfortable in my own skin. It was still a good movie.

Gil:

Yeah. I enjoy it. Although

Eric:

I, I have not seen Priscilla Queen of the Desert. you have not, I have

Gil:

not. Okay. It's, like I said there's so much. Yeah.

Eric:

But I know that's a cult classic. It is. But I also have not seen Rocky Horror.

Gil:

I am not a fan of Rocky horror. I don't get the appeal. I've seen it a few times. Like Zach, my one of my long time, it's my longest friend ever loves it to death. I cannot for the life of me, I've gone to a Rocky horror movie. I was like, movies. Show that when you dress up and yeah, I just, yeah. Oh my God. It's amazing. Yes. But yeah, with Rocky horror, I just, I don't get it. Do you, I don't understand. And I, yeah, it's just one of those movies. I just, it's just not my cup of tea. Okay. And I've seen it a few times. I'm like, okay, maybe this time around,

Eric:

everyone always wants me to watch it. And I was like, Oh my God, you have to see it. And Oh, we used to do like the whole dress up thing and dah. And I just really have no desire to watch it. Correct. I don't know. Maybe I should, but I dunno, you may

Gil:

love it. The songs are catchy, but I just, I, the whole thing, I just it's. It is,

Eric:

I like really sappy. Like I'm a total romcom kind of guy, but I also love really sappy coming of age stories, like a good friend of mine, Erin in Colorado, her and I always watch these really sad tear, jerker movies, like Nicholas Sparks movies and. We were like sitting there, like laughing and crying at the same time, because we're crying. Cause the movie is so sad, but we're laughing because like, why am I crying at this? And I'm so embarrassed that I'm like sitting here, like bawling and creating like a river longer than the Nile, like right here in this theater. And yeah, it's.

Gil:

I love when we want to go watch Janet in. Oh Why

Eric:

DId I Get Married?

Gil:

Yes. And we all might Lord, we went through so many damn emotions that

Eric:

day. I'm so exhausted now. Like I'm happy and I'm sad and I'm mad and I'm angry and I want to cry some more.

Gil:

We were a hot mess where we got all the theater.

Eric:

Have you seen you haven't seen her movie? No, this isn't a gay film, although there's a gay storyline in it, but her movie for that movie For Colored Girls, No, it was originally a play, but Tyler Perry did a movie and Janet was in it. That movie is good, but that movie is fucking harsh to the point. I don't know that I will ever watch it again. Yeah. If I do I have to be mentally and emotionally prepared to like, sit through that movie again, it's like Precious. As far as like how hard it is. Precious is a great

Gil:

movie too, but it's one of those, I don't think I could muster enough energy to do it again. Yeah. It's one of those one and done for me and I respect it.

Eric:

Know that's actually what this is like in Crash was the same way for me too. Yeah.

Gil:

I just can't be. No, I'm good. So what are some shows that you've enjoyed? Cause I definitely in gay cinema there's zillion of them.

Eric:

I feel like I've cut you off with your gay cinema, so let's talk some more gay cinema. Did I not cut you off? I feel like I cut you off. Because

Gil:

we, there some cross is because between us also, it also, like I said, I'm terrible remembering, just

Eric:

cause like I kept interjecting on you. I'm like, Oh, and this, Oh, and that movie and this movie, you're not going to be in this movie. Oh, I haven't seen that, but this movie. So I just don't want to take any spotlight. I can be a spotlight whore. I can be a whore in general, but it can be a spotlight whore. Have you seen. I am like super ADD tonight. I don't know what it is, but have you seen the silhouette challenge?

Gil:

W what is that one? Is that the red wherever? Yeah. Yeah.

Eric:

I think I'm super thankful to whoever came up with the silhouette challenge. Cause you see some dudes flex like hardcore. I'm like all damn. And they're all, if anyone hasn't seen it, it's like these people dress like in their sweats or whatever, normal clothes. And they're like walking through the doorway. And then all of a sudden, the light turns red and they start like dancing super sexy. And they have no clothes on, or they're just in lingerie. There was one that I saw where these two boyfriends were actually like having sex. And I was like, Oh wow. Okay. But I saw this one from he's a ballet dancer. And it was like the most beautiful silhouette I've seen because he's a ballet dancer and he has all these lines and extensions and strength and power and grace. And I was just like, that was just super pretty. But yeah, I really enjoyed the silhouette challenge. I actually posted about it the other day. I was like, whoever came up with the silhouette challenge. Thank you.

Gil:

Yeah. I watch always watched the little trends that are going on in TikTok with that. And it's just like some songs where they repeat like the same ones over and you see it like at 19,000 different ways. Yeah,

Eric:

I have Tik TOK, but I don't use Tik TOK. So you're more like

Gil:

watching the videos. I don't

Eric:

even watch the videos. I occasionally do. I've been seeing all the silhouette stuff on Twitter. Oh, I'm on Twitter

Gil:

a lot and they just I have a Twitter, but I don't use it.

Eric:

Okay. I have a Twitter and it's very not suitable for work. Extremely not suitable for work. Do not look at it if you're at work or around children or anything else or around your parents yeah. Yeah. So I see all this little bit challenges on that. Now I got Tik TOK, cause I was like, Oh, I'm going to need it to promote things. And I just haven't gotten into doing TikTok, but I got it before they were supposedly going to ban it here. And I was like, Oh, I better keep it. Cause if they, if whatever his name is, gets his way and they do ban it here, then I'm already having,

Gil:

yeah, I watched TikTok cause it reminds me of like when we had Vine. It was like five videos. That's what, to me it is. Yeah, but definitely in there I enjoy when they do like dancing challenges and stuff like that. I get oddly entertained. Yeah. With that one, but there are certain moments where, to me, it almost feels like I'm watching an only fans and I'm just like scrolling through. I'm like, Oh, okay. Lovely lovely. But I do prefer more of like the dancing challenges or something like that.

Eric:

Are you watching that? It's like only fans.

Gil:

It's the way that with the red silhouette, I don't care for it because some of them take it to that level where I'm just like, what I mean to throw it on tumbler.

Eric:

Tumbler's not even a thing anymore that like tumbler did away with all that stuff.

Gil:

Yeah. Yeah. No, it asks not no trust me. Things have come back to that. They're not as, yeah. Things are not on there as banned as they used to be because when they first did it, they did a big purge. Yeah. But within the six months, if that cause everything came back, there's a lot of stuff that I'm like, I did not know that trust me, the privacy keeps saying no nudity, but I'm like, my page still pops up with this.

Eric:

We'll have to check out some tumbler. Then I do subscribe to some only fans. So

Gil:

yeah. So tumbler definitely is taking that. But what Tik TOK, I preferred more like the dancing cooking tricks, stuff like that. Yeah, it's what I really enjoyed oddly with that, but the silhouette thing has been blowing up even on my side of the page where I'm like, Oh, okay, everyone's doing

Eric:

it sexy. I don't know. I just really like to see people moving and like really owning their movements and their bodies and learning how to manipulate the way they move and the way their bodies work. So to me, that sexy anyways. But then to see them like, take it there. I don't know. I enjoy the silhouette challenge again. It's been a really long time since I've had any, so anything's going to excite me. They're like,

Gil:

Oh yeah, no for me. No, not entry. It's nice, but it's not, to me, I'm like if I had to see 16 straight of it, I swear to Jesus. I just, I get bored with it. That's where my unlike and I'm moving on to the next thing. Okay. That's fair. That's just me. That's the way I am with a lot of things. I'm like, okay, I get it. Yeah, I know. They're pretty blonde boy. Okay, awesome. Awesome.

Eric:

I haven't seen any blonde boys doing

Gil:

this. Always sing it. Yeah. And I'm like, that's not what I'm interested.

Eric:

I can see that. That's fair. Yeah.

Gil:

hey, Eric, I hear we have swag now.

Eric:

Indeed, we do. We have shirts, beanies and drawstring backpacks.

Gil:

How and where do our listeners find this cool stuff. They

Eric:

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Gil:

Yeah Oh Lord, where do we been going with this? I forgot. Oh, TIKTOK

Eric:

like I can set I'm like super ADD. And so I'm all over the place right now and interjecting here and interjecting they're interjecting everywhere. That was my attempt at being Dr. Seuss, like TV shows.

Gil:

I read them. I'm trying to remember. So we had definitely had Queer As Folk.

Eric:

Which is a great show. Yes, I will say though, again, Eric being super uncomfortable in his skin and not acknowledging himself for a long time. I didn't watch that movie until what, five, six years after it was relevant. Yeah. And then you bought the series. I bought the series from my friend, Erica's girlfriend, and we had w it was really weird. So there was one year I want to say it was 2006, 2007. Something. I was living in my loft. Oh, that was so cute. I love that loft. Yeah. I miss that loft really great

Gil:

location. Beautiful setup.

Eric:

Yeah. Yeah. It got like the complex itself got trashy. There'll before, but maybe it was 2010 then, but yeah, I loved that loft. That loft was amazing. Like I still want a loft like that one. But we have a freak snowstorm out here. Every the city was shut down for a week, because all the pipes frozen and school frozen the schools and all that other weird stuff. It was actually colder here than it was like in Antarctica a couple of days, which is just weird for Albuquerque. I still, my heater still worked and my hot water still works. But I didn't have to work for a week or two weeks or something like that because of the weather. And so I was like, huh, what am I going to do? I think I'm going to watch queer as folk. And I just marathon the crap out of that, that in Housewives, I think is like all I watched But yeah, that show's really good. Although I didn't think all the seasons were good. No. Like the first season was amazing. And the second season I thought fell short the third season I enjoyed cause I liked the whole Ted storyline with the partying and his drug use and stuff like that. So I found that really intriguing and interesting Party Monster. That's another good movie.

Gil:

Yes. Oh, God, we almost failed on Lissa listing that one. Oh

Eric:

my gosh. Party Monster is a fucking good one. Yes. Macaulay Culkin, yeah, that's a great movie. Oh, he is not the little boy from Home Alone in

Gil:

that movie. That was a great movie. It was a very good movie. I think I saw that few years ago finally delayed again.

Eric:

I think I saw that movie probably like 10 years ago, which was still delayed, but yeah. It was a really good movie. I think I own that movie, actually. I think I bought it like in a secondhand used movie DVD thing. If DVDs are still a thing, I don't think they are a thing anymore. But. Queer As Folk was a really good that's where we are at. Right Queer As Folk was a good show. I really enjoyed it. I didn't care for the second and fourth seasons as much. I actually didn't even really fully care for the fifth season, but because it tied everything together and it was nostalgic. I liked the fifth season.

Gil:

Yeah. It was very as a seasoned kind of hit or miss or some of the time or the story plots, it was yeah. Yes, I enjoyed the characters. It's just, I think the writing was very inconsistent. Yeah, but it's still very British show too. Yeah, it was groundbreaking for what it was for us. So I mean, it was definitely one of those who watched for me. Like I remember watching a few of the episodes. I was still a minor and I ever came across. I was like, Holy mother. Yeah. I was like, Oh Lord, let me. Mute.

Eric:

And at that time you might've actually had a Pearl necklace. Yeah. It was a real that you could actually clutch

Gil:

cross of course,

Eric:

but no Queer As Folk is a really good show. I still enjoy it, even though I'm just sat here and said, Oh, I like this season. And that season, I would still watch it all. Cause it was still, yeah. A good show

Gil:

app. No, absolutely. You and I obviously used to bond over Will and Grace, we call each other when you said the reruns,

Eric:

Watch the reruns like late at night and be like, Oh my God, did you see it? Yeah. I saw that when it first aired, but to us, it was still new when we not. New, but we, it was like, it was new and we would have to sit there and compare notes sometimes even texted the episode. Yes.

Gil:

Yeah. So I remember that was so much fun. I'll call you up every single night. And I was like, did you see, it was like, after the

Eric:

news, grace is a good show. Like I know where it has its flaws. Cause it's a very stereotypy show. Yeah. It is it's all pure stereotypes, but I still enjoy that show. Of course. I love Karen Walker. Megan Mullally has my heart.

Gil:

Yes. But then again, like I said, we're looking at it from a modern lens. Yeah. And we're able to critique it just I'm sure. Like in time they're going to be looking at our shows now and be like, wow, they got away with that. It's the same thing. Like it was groundbreaking for its time. Period. It. Paved way to what it is now.

Eric:

You know what show is? Groundbreaking, which one

Gil:

The Golden Girls. Yes. Oh, Golden Girls

Eric:

that show was ground breaking.

Gil:

I'm still shook as I go through the app. Cause I'm slowly watching it, starting from episode one all the way through. Cause I've never watched it in order. I've watched it all over the place. I remember my mom watching it, back in the day. When it was live, I was a child. But I never, like then I laugh because I just thought they were funny the way they talk to each other. Yeah. But as obviously it became an adult or, coming coming out and stuff like that. And just what they talked about the top, especially the

Eric:

eighties. I know. And they dealt with a lot of homosexuality topics and assisted suicide. Like that show was groundbreaking. That show. Was way ahead of its time. I love

Gil:

me some Blanche

Eric:

Blanche too. Like she was always my idol. I always wanted to be the Blanche.

Gil:

Oh, I love, I really enjoyed Blanche. She, Oh, my

Eric:

now I really like when I was younger, I loved Sophia and Rose cause of the whole they're just they're storytimes picks picture it Sicily 22. In St. Olaf,

Gil:

I think that's the reason why to go to Minnesota just to see this imaginary town that I know doesn't exist just to say I was there.

Eric:

Aye. I all low key. Always want it to be Blanche. It's the human mattress I always want. And I only say that because Sophia called her that in the show. Yeah.

Gil:

Yeah, but good. No, very true Golden Girls that was ahead of its time. And it's still for the most part. I think it's,

Eric:

it's still ahead of its time. It's just what we have now. You watch it. You're like, Oh my God.

Gil:

Yeah, I love it. I love Golden Girls. I be, plus it's such a huge gay following. Oh. And the support from it for, to this day, it's just, it's on width, we're here. We're still supporting it. We're here. We're

Eric:

queer

Gil:

and yeah. L Betty White still go in

Eric:

Betty White as a national treasure.

Gil:

Yes, absolutely.

Eric:

Is legend an icon and. She should have monuments erected

Gil:

in her honor. Yeah, she's still going. When she remembers world war two, at this point, world war one

Eric:

was

Gil:

probably born no way. She was born in the twenties.

Eric:

So she would have been like right

Gil:

after. Yeah. So she dealt with the great depression. So this woman knows what our generation is going through or it's Oh, here it goes. Another plague of something seems to be our decade thing. Yeah. So Golden Girls was great. Will and Grace obviously classic in more modern terms, obviously on Hulu. We can never forget.

Eric:

I don't think we're going to have time to go over. I

Gil:

love it. Do a quick episode. We have to dedicate a full 60 minutes to our obsession. Victor. I love, Love

Eric:

Victor. I think most people know that Love Victor is like my show. Like as much as I love Euphoria. And Euphoria is a great show when they deal with a lot of like gay topics too. Euphoria is a great show. Everybody, everyone should see it. I love Victor. If anyone doesn't know, it's like the spinoff of Love Simon, which is already a great movie, but Love Victor to me is better.

Gil:

It elevated

Eric:

it's. I love it

Gil:

so much. It, especially me. I don't care for spinoffs. I'm always like, Oh, here we go. It's gonna be another Joey. No, this was

Eric:

amazing. This was great. And I had totally forgotten about it. And Gil's have you seen him? He calls me or texting. Have you seen Love Victor? I'm like, no, it's it already? Yes. You need to watch it now. And I was like, okay. And then like I marathon and I ha I should be like in Love, Victor's anonymous or something. Cause I have seen it 26 times.

Gil:

Hey, this is just last week folks. Just last week,

Eric:

I have seen that show so many times, like it hits, it's just like speaks to my heart. A friend of mine watched it for the first time, like a couple of weeks ago. And she's totally get it. I know why you love this show. And I'm like, yeah

Gil:

But it also the perspective, it was like, wow, a gay Latino side. It's coming from a cultured area. It's not like another, Oh, here's another white liberal coming out. Whew. There's a little bit of dysfunction, but no, this is like a, we get the cultural part of it. We get the religious aspect. That's also tied into it. We get it like hair up, like aha.

Eric:

And so cause I. I have this weird habit. It's not a weird habit, but when I decided, okay, the mission

Gil:

was the mission, there was a movie based. I same thing. I'm sorry. There was, Oh no, I know exactly what move you're talking about. It was the same thing. Basically we're in the Bay area, same Hispanic, family and he's coming to terms.

Eric:

I haven't seen that movie, but I it's good. Okay.

Gil:

That's good. That's a good one. Sorry. I completely sorry. That's your moment. Oh, that's

Eric:

okay. I cut you off a whole bunch, although you're cutting me off during Love Victor, but I cut you off a whole bunch earlier in this episode.

Gil:

No, but love Victor. Oh, where do we begin taking away Eric?

Eric:

So like, when I decided I liked something, I become like super hyper-focused on it and I become like a borderline obsessive. Obsessive. No, but that movie, that show like just spoke to me. Cause like you said, the cultural aspect of it, the Latino aspect of it, I could totally identify with that. I'm part of these love Victor Facebook. Wow. I love the show that much. And there was a lot of people like were getting mad at episode. Five specifically the birthday party episode. And they're like that grandfather was wrong and he should have done this and that. I was like, no, that's very much the culture I was going to

Gil:

say.

Eric:

He was actually super tame compared to what I thought. And yeah, like that is very much the culture. I was actually more offended by Benji. Yeah. Giving him the pass of. Introducing them as like a friend and band mate, rather than boyfriends, because he knows his grandfather's history like that machismo personality is. Crazy,

Gil:

but I think it was definitely Benji's response. Is that atypical? What, like I said, it's normally through the white lens. Yeah. And this is a good reflection for people, especially people get angry. I think that's exactly the purpose is that this is not through the white lens. Exactly how it would be under a minority. We know that being one I'm like we

Eric:

forgot Moonlight. Oh

Gil:

shit. Yes.

Eric:

How could we forget that movie?

Gil:

Oh, that's a good one too. Oh, that's a good one.

Eric:

That movie is great. I won the Oscar for movie of the year.

Gil:

Yes, it did. Yes, it did. And I'm sorry, we apologize, everyone. We apologize.

Eric:

We're going to just stop this and re shoot this whole show and talk about Moonlight from the top. Okay. Yeah, probably not. No, but that was a great movie. I can't really

Gil:

be forgotten if you guys haven't seen it, please watch it. Yes yesterday.

Eric:

Oh, where are you rubbing? Chris's shoulder. Oh,

Gil:

I thought you were just a little pillow will be moving out of my way.

Eric:

I thought you were rubbing Chris's shoulders. Oh, how cute.

Gil:

Oh, no, I did it earlier.

Eric:

Let's go back to Victor. Oh yes. So they're filming season two. Yes, they are. They had to stop it though, because there was, I've heard two reasons. I had heard that a crew member have tested positive for COVID, so they had to stop it. But then I also just heard that most everything in LA was stopping because.

Gil:

I was going to say that was like 10 out of 10 people there. COVID. Yeah.

Eric:

But I've recently heard that they are almost done filming season two, that there's about five episodes left that they have to film, which would make it halfway

Gil:

through, but they're doing 20 episodes. Are they doing like there?

Eric:

I don't know. I hope they're doing more than 10. If they're only doing 10, I hope they're like hour long episodes.

Gil:

Yeah,

Eric:

the only good thing about them being half hour episodes or 25 minute episodes, which is you can marathon the shit out of that easily,

Gil:

which we have proven

Eric:

we have proven And there's a, but they're supposed to, and if any of those stars want to be on this podcast, if you guys by chance happen to listen to this podcast, I know you don't, there's five people that listened to this podcast.

Gil:

Six now we're gaining viewers

Eric:

even six. I listened to it now. So the, I got to six Yeah. I forgot what I was saying.

Gil:

So the resuming production again,

Eric:

production and there I think there's only there's they said that there's five episodes left to film.

Gil:

Oh, this is exciting. I'm curious to where they're going to take, especially it's gonna be right after he came out.

Eric:

Yeah. So it resumed, I think I sent you the thing, like the script where it resumed right, where it took off, but this time it doesn't fade so black. Yeah. So he exhales because that's an important part of the scene that people, a lot of people don't pick up on that. Yeah. Exhale from, if you saw I Love Simon. There was that whole exhale. breathe. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I can't wait to see what as parents, his response, or what do you think his parents' response is going to be?

Gil:

I think the fall is going to have a slight freak out. But the mother is going to take the longest.

Eric:

So that's what you think.

Gil:

I think so. I think the mom's going to take a minute. The only reason I think is because she sees him as the perfect boy. You're like, it's our baby. Yeah. And I think there's gonna be a little bit of challenges. I

Eric:

think, I think they're both going to have issues with it. Yeah, but I feel like the, that the father's going to have the hardest time with it because it's that whole machismo thing it could be. Yeah. And that would be very stereotypical to flip the script a little bit and they might, and I did know that Anna Ortiz talked about how, when she was on Ugly, Betty, she,

Gil:

I loved Ugly

Eric:

Betty, which I never seen that. I know

Gil:

I'm bad. Okay. That's another, I enjoy.

Eric:

But she was very like supportive of her son and her gay son in that show. And then, so she's so to play someone on the other side, it's going to be interesting. So she might've answered that question there. I don't think she did those. I don't think they had the season two script out yet, but I don't know. I think they're both going to have issues with it, but I think because it's like her baby and like her pride and joy, because she's, he's her favorite. Yeah. I think she's going to come around sooner than Armando is, but I do think Pilar is going to have, she'll have this back, she'll have his back, but I think she's going to be like the go-between. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. That's what I think, but I'm excited. I want to see how they resolve it with Mia too, because I love Mia. I know a lot of people don't like her because they're stupid, but I loved Mia. She, I wanted to like, Hang out with her and go shopping and chat with her and be her best friend. I wanted to be her Lake.

Gil:

Yeah. I'm curious of what they're going to develop a relation if they do with Benji, because I think they'll continue him, but I don't know if he's going to be.

Eric:

Yeah. See, I honestly don't see love if you're having more than two or three seasons, just because. Where else are you going to go? I don't want it to turn into a nine Oh two. I know where they all just

Gil:

start. Like everyone dates, everyone breaks up and they

Eric:

Yeah. Yeah. Know they're introducing a lot of new characters, which I'm not excited about. I think it's cool to have new characters, but I want to see what happens with this core group before we start bringing more people in. So that's another thing

Gil:

I do dynamic

Eric:

already. Yeah. I do know that they have an Iranian. Coming back. Very nice. A guy playing a game, Iranian character. So that would be great. We all know that's like my dream, a show. It takes place in high school. So probably not. But

Gil:

for legality yes. When he becomes 18 and an available. Yes, then. Yeah.

Eric:

Yeah, I'm just curious on what they're going to do with that. But I look and I'm obsessed with the show. I watched all the interviews, I follow them all on Twitter. I always hit them up to see if they want to be on the podcast, but I get no response. They probably have me blocked I have a whole Love Victor playlist.

Gil:

Yeah. Their soundtrack is good. Just like the Love Victor movie, at least for me I enjoy Bleachers. So I was like, Oh my God. They're featuring. Yeah.

Eric:

Yeah. It's great. And we can't go without talking Schitt's Creek of course. Which took me forever to

Gil:

watch. Oh, dear Lord. That was, I'm glad you joined the band wagon with that one, but Schitt's Creek is just one of those gems. I know. Everyone's Oh, the first episode, a couple episodes. It takes them a while, but it's all about that character development. It makes more sense. Now that you look back, we're like, Oh, that first episode. Yes. Everything. Even from then it makes sense. It took

Eric:

me what three or four tries to watch that show. Cause I was like, I watched like the first episode or watch half of the first episode. I was like, no, I can't do this. This is, this sucks. And then Gil and a few other people were like, no, you got to watch it. You got to watch it. So I was like, I made it through the first episode and I'm like, yeah, no, I'm good. And then I'm like, no, you got to watch it. So then I made it through the second episode and I was like, yeah, I'm pretty much done. And then you and Erica, again poor thing she's, just getting called out all kinds tonight. Or no, you got to watch it. Once you get past the fourth episode, it's great. And then one of my coworkers told me the same thing, so I was like, okay, fine. I will make myself get through the first four episodes. And then by like episode five, I was like completely invested. I sat there and marathon to season every day. Yes. And watched the whole thing within five days or something like that. And I was like, Oh my God, that show's amazing. I want to meet my own Patrick. Like, when am I going to have a, when am I going to meet Patrick? My own Patrick? That's what I want in life

Gil:

is

Eric:

beautiful. And the whole Simply The Best Tina Turner like that, I cried.

Gil:

Yeah, it was amazing.

Eric:

The finale was great. The finale was awesome. The only I felt so. Bad though for I can't think of her name. The sister, Alexis. Alexis. Yeah. I wasn't gonna say Annie Murphy. Who's the Annie Murphy. Alexis. Yeah, like I wanted to be her best friend so bad, but I wanted her to end up with the vet. I know. But no, I, that the ending was great and they ended it the right way and she's amazing. And that whole show was great. I'm so glad I gave it another, like a fifth chance. And then I went back and re like yous just sat though. I went back and rewatch, like the first four episodes. Cause it was like, what was my issue with it? And I'm like, okay, I see what my issue was with it. But. Now, like I've seen the whole show, like these first four episodes are great. Cause they set

Gil:

everything down. It makes sense. Cause the same thing, the first couple, I was okay, what am I supposed to laugh? I'm confused here. And then as I got through it, I was like, Oh my Lord. Oh my God. It didn't obviously rewatched the first four. And I'm like, ah, this all makes this is. The foundation. This makes more sense. Yeah.

Eric:

They were brilliant show,

Gil:

actually it really is. And I loved Catherine O'Hara as Moira, I like I adore. She's great. I was funny because actually at my work we actually had fun gala based on based on her wigs. So yeah. So I actually dressed up because we did this for Halloween. We did a Halloween gala right before. No, it was technically during COVID, but we had no customers anyway. It's still be all dressed up and, we were like, let's have fun. And we all, I went as the finale, the season finale. Okay. Epic, Catholic wig of hers as I did that. And everyone else would as heard other wigs that she'd had throughout the series,

Eric:

what to say also about that show, the fashion. Oh, The fashion in that show was like, damn,

Gil:

I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it to stay true to that.

Eric:

Yeah. And I don't think they ever wore like a repeat outfit. They had like crazy bank.

Gil:

Yeah, no, absolutely. But that's a great series. Whether they nominated for five Emmys.

Eric:

I think so. Yeah. Going back really quick. Love Victor just got nominated for best comedy series. I put GLAAD awards.

Gil:

I hope they

Eric:

win. So do I and Michael Cimino was like, that's the guy who plays Victor is super, super supportive. And advocative for the LGBTQ. Causes. So the whole cast is actually, but yeah, sorry, go back to Schitt's Creek. I just had to like, get some more Victor in there.

Gil:

These are all great series and I'm so thankful, especially when we talk about modern times and exactly what the generations before us have done. They've been able to make way that this is. On regular television. This is on major networks. These are on your regular, downloading apps. It's not got to go underground, like before, try to find a international section at the VHS blockbuster or Hollywood video blockbuster, or

Eric:

what's that VHS,

Gil:

It was different or try to, Oh, you have to essentially go to the. To the, Castro you're going into a West village or anything like that, just to find gay cinema. Yeah.

Eric:

No, I love how even though it's still not normalized and fully accepted I guess I it's, I'm liking the fact that it's more readily available. Like you said like generations before us, our generation even, or my generation and then your generation. Cause you're like two generations behind me.

Gil:

Here we go.

Eric:

Push through so many boundaries that correct. Made it kids today are the youth today are the gay. Coming up today are just much more comfortable with it. Like they can talk about it. They like, we had that interview with Benoit last season. He was talking about Oh yeah, I had D grassie everything was like, Cool. And I had no issue with it which I haven't seen DeGrassi either. Yeah, like it's cool that like it's people can identify now. Like we've always talked about representation, like Pete Buttigieg. This is the first gay, openly gay cabinet member. It's confirmed cabinet member. So you're getting representation out there and it's needed to help boost. The youth of the LGBTQ and that's the show was originally brought up to discuss that experience. So it

Gil:

wasn't, it definitely, like I said, within the cinema and all that it's so much, like I say, it's not perfect, but it's better. And at least now it's, the generations, when we talk about being fluid, like that wasn't a thing before, or either it was a hard, this or that. And now it's you know what, there is more fluidity within everyone's sexuality. It's not as absolute. Yeah,

Eric:

I know it was very much like you're on this side of the Kinsey scale or this side there's Bi wasn't even allowed to be there. Correct.

Gil:

And, it's nice to see the strides and, I'm sure that this next generation is going to be able to even make push harder on how, how much more can we get.

Eric:

Yeah. Hopefully they'll be more normalized. Yeah.

Gil:

It was one of my things I was actually really excited about. I was watching the news with my mom and I was like, Oh my God, they showed a commercial for the County that we live in and they had a gay couple. It was just like nothing. It was just, they were on there, please make sure where you're masking up and, they had the gay couple next to each other, holding hands. And then I was like, Oh my God. And there were a minority couple, it was a little Asian couple. I was like, Oh my God. For my other half.

Eric:

Yeah. That's awesome. Did you see that Las Vegas commercial? The lesbians are like, they got the one surprise, the other one to get married. They got married in Vegas and she surprised her with her family there. Oh no. It's like the sweetest commercial it's came out a couple of years ago. I think I cried. It was super sweet. Oh. And then Doritos I think it's in Mexico. They have this commercial where the. The son brings his boyfriend home and the father is like super bothered because that's his son. It's the whole machismo of course attitude. I don't know. I remember what happens. I think he sees people like not treating his son as well as they should or something. So then he like goes out of his way and he like accepts his son and his son's boyfriend. And it's super sweet. And there's another one with A lesbian couple as well. And people are making fun of his daughter and her girlfriend. And he like. Goes out there and paints the rainbow on his fence and like to show, so it was really beautiful. I was super happy to see that that stuff makes me cry. Cause I'm super sappy and I cry at the opening of an envelope, but

Gil:

it reminds me of what is it? Was it a Coca-Cola commercial? Where's that the sister and the brother are both like trying to run out to go give the pool boy or whatever, a Coke. And it was just really interesting. Yeah. Oh yeah.

Eric:

It's a very Call Me Maybe moment. Yes.

Gil:

Cause you really don't even figure out which. He like smiles at both of them. And I was like, Oh, so which

Eric:

that's like the Will and Grace episode with the magazine, like the three magazines. Yes.

Gil:

It's isn't it obvious? And it's

Eric:

unless it's Vanity

Gil:

Fair. Yes. And then the guy I like Vanity Fair. I was like, Oh Jesus. Oh, Will and Grace? Yes. Okay.

Eric:

Thank you guys all for joining me. I hope you were able to decipher some of our blabbering and

Gil:

ADHD.

Eric:

Thank you for putting up with that. Thank you for putting up with me and remember to live in your authenticity and we will see you next time. Thank you.

Gil:

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Eric:

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