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Oct. 13, 2021

S3E7 (Dylan)

S3E7 (Dylan)

Eric and Gil were honored to be joined and to chat with dancer and model Dylan.

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Eric:

Hello and welcome to the Q lounge. I'm Eric

Gil:

and I'm Gil.

Eric:

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Gil:

I'm Gil

Eric:

and we are honored to be joined by Dylan dancer and model. How are you doing tonight?

Dylan:

I'm all right. Thank you. How are you?

Eric:

I'm doing well. Thank you. and happy belated birthday. I know you just celebrated a birthday, so thank you for giving up your birthday weekend to come hang out with us. So that's

awesome.

Dylan:

I celebrated in the middle of the week, on my day on my actual birthday it is your day. It is it's my day. And it was fabulous. I had such a great time. I celebrated it with the special semi no, not semi let's be real, a special person. And it was night. Yeah, that's fantastic. It was fantastic. And I took the day off work, which I never do anyway. Sorry.

Eric:

No, that's fine. Your birthday is actually on Gil's anniversary is really,

Dylan:

there's no need to brag about your life Gil. I started bragging about your beautiful marriage. I swear to God. Thank you for the reminder.

Eric:

Hey, I'm like older than everybody and I'm still super single. I'm like old maid over here.

Dylan:

I love that. Oh my God.

Eric:

So you are a dancer. You compete in Latin and ballroom

Dylan:

Yeah. I, the thing is like my mom, like I got, when I was a kid, I got in a fight with her. I was like, mom, I don't want you to like the ballroom. I wanted Latin she said you got to do both. And then it got to the point where it's like, she had to buy me a tux and I said mom if you, can't find me a tux I'm not doing it.. I'm not doing it. Plus I love taking my ass. Yeah. So Latin's the way to go. Anyway, I'm

Eric:

a former dancer myself, so

Dylan:

I know. I love that. I saw, I like to shake my ass as

Eric:

well

Dylan:

was funny. If I did listened to, I listened to like your two. Recent episodes. And like when you said you were a dancer, I was like, oh, I love that. I love it.

Eric:

Yeah. I think I just fully stopped performing, I guess last year around the PA I did, I had retired like three or four years ago, but during the pandemic, a few people asked me to do some virtual shows. So I did a couple virtual shows. That's

Dylan:

so

Gil:

cool pulled a Cher on us.

Eric:

Yes pulled a Cher on you and

Gil:

farewell of many.

Eric:

So how was that treating you in a COVID kind of world?

Dylan:

It's been good. There's been a lot of like life changes and the, how deep do you want me

Eric:

to go? As deep as you want? You can go like 30 inches deep. If you want, like stretch the colon,

Dylan:

I'll give you a good, yeah. I'll give you that stretch. That colon baby. So God and it's all

Eric:

raw. There's no lube in this. Oh

Dylan:

no.

Eric:

Maybe some spit,

Dylan:

if you're lucky. Some sweat. Yeah. So I dunno. I feel like the first here's the thing. I was very lucky that I had a really, I have a really good friend and actually her husband and now ex husband. Yeah, so basically that's a story that, if we dive into it, we dive into it. But basically her ex-husband invited me to stay with them. And I'm still lucky to have a good friend because I was living in a room in Queens and I would've died because I would have been alone. Yeah, it'd been crazy. So I'm really glad I have such a good friend and like her and I were like, oh we're going to kill each other or we're going to be like really good friends. And now we're just like inseparable. But I, what's crazy about those first few. Months was like, you're wondering like how long it's going to be. And also then you have all this time to like fucking think. Cause I wasn't working at the time. So you have all this time, think about like your life choices and think about what life is like. It's just, it was excruciating and like awful to really have all this time to think because I'm so used to working and traveling and like moving around and hustling. And I think that was like a mechanism to make sure that I don't have to think too hard about where I am. And so it's actually nice to be able to go through that. And then also obviously like the modeling thing came up because of it as well. So yeah. Yeah.

Eric:

I think a lot of us had time to just like really sit and think, and

Dylan:

it

Gil:

slowed everyone down. Yeah.

Dylan:

Yeah. And I just loved how we're all like, oh, this is going to be two weeks. I love

Gil:

that, lie still like

Dylan:

gently. And and it's it's going to end soon. I'm like over here Googling, like, when's it going to like this time in history is so hilarious and so ridiculous.

Eric:

I am hoping by like July of 2022, at least

Dylan:

slows down, maybe it will slow down. Yeah, my God. Yeah. But I just, and it just this moment really I don't know, it just solidifies this belief. I have even though it's such a fucking cliche, that everything happens for a reason. And even though yes, it's like wildly fucking inconvenient. I feel like so many good things come from it for me personally, obviously there were some people that obviously are experiencing really difficult things and having to make difficult decisions. But for me personally, I feel like I've. It's been a, for the most part, like a mostly positive experience, even though I obviously had to go on unemployment for the first time ever, which was very strange. So it's so weird. I hate government forms. And I feel like I, I feel like I'm a dumb ass. Like I can't read it's the worst. It's the worst feeling

Eric:

ever. And then you have someone like me who forgets to send a link and here's a link.

Dylan:

Oh my God. And then I'm beating. I'm like, do I tell him to tell him, I think he fucked up

Gil:

we're professionals here.

Dylan:

I want to just straight up, just be bitchy right now. It's listen, I don't think you sent me that link.

Gil:

Let's just play the secretary.

Eric:

Not doing your show now. Yeah.

Dylan:

Oops. Yeah. I'm going to bed now. How's that? Oh my God. I just took a nap before this. I'm like, okay, I need to take a 20 minute nap when you get refreshed, because I didn't sleep very much last night. And I was like, okay. But Dylan, you need to set an alarm with, if you sleep past this, if you sleep past 11, it is over. And I would have felt so fucking guilty. I hate people that don't keep their commitments. It makes me really angry. So

Eric:

anyway, and we probably would have found a way to work around it, but thank

Dylan:

you. I'm sure. But I just I'm that human being where it's no, I made a commitment. Yes. Here we go. We

Gil:

appreciate it. So when did you realize you were a part of the alphabet.

Dylan:

The alphabet mafia? Yes. When I I feel like I've already I've always been gay. I didn't just decide to be gay when I was 18. Even though it's something I do love to say I was 18. I was just like, you know what, dick, no, the best tasting food. Ooh. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like it just, here's the funny thing I feel like even though I did grow up in a pretty religious setting, I knew being gay was, I don't know how I knew being gay was bad. Cause it wasn't like my family like straight up, put their fingers in my face and said being gay is naughty I just knew it was bad. I think it was probably just cause I was living in an environment where I like it was like the culture. So I don't know. And I don't know if I want to say this, I'm just gonna fucking say it. Why the fuck? Not? No, whatever. Basically I mean my most no, how do I say this? Basically I fantasize about guys as a child. Like I wouldn't fantasize about women, and be like, see so like I've always been gay. There's this? No, like I, I adored Barbies. I had I needed my nails painted before. That was a fucking thing. So I love sparkly nail Polish. I, yeah. So I really get these long-winded answers. I'm so sorry. You guys know, we appreciate it. Okay, good. I guess I give you a lot to work with, but it's just, I that's like my biggest insecurity when I speak to people is I'm like, oh my God, am I like just, word vomiting.

Eric:

Yeah. I see your story. It's your story. You're sharing it. We're just offering a platform for you to share it. So we greatly appreciate it. I myself hate the sound of my voice. So I'm always like, do I have to speak?

Dylan:

I love how your voice sounds, Mr. I love it so much. It's very it's very I like you're smoking a cigarette and drinking your coffee at the same time. And like you're telling people how much you don't care, but you do care. And I love that. Yeah. I love that so much. Oh yeah. I feel like I sound like a more feminine version of Rachel Maddow. No, I don't think

Eric:

I described myself as a male Fran Drescher. Ooh. Okay. That's how I think I sound,

Dylan:

I don't think so. I liked that we should cultivate that really actually you make, you sound like that. I think that fabulous.

Eric:

Okay. I will work on that breaking my sister. You are a twin, an identical twin, and your brother is also gay

Dylan:

very much.

Eric:

So how was that what did you guys like discovered together at the same time? Or what was that story like for you guys on your end?

Dylan:

That's the thing, I don't know if there was a discovery, I feel like he's just, it's just, it that's what it was. Okay. That's just who we were. Like, it wasn't even there's this, here's a story. When we were like, we're more five, like we for five or six, we had a friend in our neighborhood and we went over to her house and we like put on dress, like some of her dresses and we like swung on the swing set. There was just no denying that we were like little gay boys and it's just how fabulous. I, my dad, okay, you're gonna love this. So that same day we're eating dinner as a family. And my dad's like, where were you? I was like, oh, we're, her name was Abigail. I We're not Abby's house. I was like, no, you weren't. I saw three girls on the swing set. I literally said, dad, that was us. And he like slammed the table and walked away. He just couldn't believe it was just so I was like, what? We were just playing with our friends. I was just she had pretty dresses for putting on the fucking pretty dresses. All right. Fucking relax.

Eric:

Cheers to that. Yes,

Dylan:

God. Yeah.

Eric:

Awesome. Did you have any hardships or struggles with coming out? I know you said you came from a pretty religious background.

Dylan:

No, I put, with the religious background, I had more I think the being like, you know what, let's do this gay thing. Let's give this gay thing a shot. It was more of a release. Okay. Because I felt more, truthfully, I felt more shame about masturbation. Okay. I can see my dad's a Mormonism. Okay. Oh, so you're Mormon. Yeah, that was more like, that was the scary, that was like the thing that like made me feel the most guilty of the gay thing. For some reason I felt no guilt about, I don't know. I think maybe I was very logical about it as this is who I am and I can't change it. Okay. So yeah. Also, like I knew my mom was supportive and it was just like wonderful, very lucky in that sense. So not to brag.

Eric:

Yeah, no, that's awesome. We had another guest who is, it was also Mormon in our first season and he had talked about his struggles and stuff like that. So I'm glad that you have a slightly different experience. I I know his family was still there for him and supported him because he was their son, but I'm glad you had a positive experience with

Dylan:

it yep. And to go and listen to that and be like, let's see what that bitch says. I'm like, oddly oh, you're Mormon too. Let's see what you have to fucking say. I just, I don't know. I see Mormon missionaries and I want to yell at them. So fucking wild religion. Did you

Eric:

ever see The Falls Trilogy? Yeah, it's a trilogy. It's a, it's there, it's a gay cinema, but that's a trilogy of two missionaries who like fall in love. And then one of them gets ex-communicated and the other one decides to like, deny his feelings for the other guy. And then and then the second one. Yeah.

Dylan:

That's gay dating right there. That is gay dated.

Eric:

But no, that's totally fine, but it's a cute little trilogy. Like I watched it like within a day or two, I was like, oh, I gotta see what happens next. I gotta see what happens next.

Dylan:

Please tell me, obviously like spoilers to people, but can you please tell me what did they get back together?

Eric:

Yeah. So in the second, so in the second episode, they have a friend who dies and so they end up like seeing each other at the services and they start to rekindle. And then the one is married with a child. But he still has feelings for the guy and then the why finds out and she gets all upset. And then the third one is basically them like living their life together and starting a fresh life together. No, it was really happy. Like happy, like yay. They ended up together. Yeah. It took four hours to get there.

Gil:

Listen,

Dylan:

as long as we get to that point, that gives me hope in my heart. All right. That's all I need.

Eric:

Yeah, no, it was a cute trilogy. And then latter days was a good movie.

Dylan:

I just, I'm sorry, you guys I'm so unfamiliar.

Eric:

No, that's okay. During the pandemic, I had nothing else to do. So I just started watching a bunch of gay cinema and I like watch foreign gay cinema. And I watched L level cinema, like just below D level

Dylan:

and he's watching anything gay. I love that. I actually was like, you know what? It's about fucking time. We started watching drag race and I'm obsessed. I love it. I

Eric:

still never seen

Dylan:

it, okay. So

Eric:

here's my gay card.

Dylan:

I'm watching all gay cinema drag race. No. Why would I do that? Okay.

Eric:

No, it's not. Why would I do that? I just haven't done it. You haven't gotten there yet.

Dylan:

I love that so much. Cause it's it's not that you're like uncomfortable with watching gay shit. It's no, I'm watching Mormon shit. I need to watch, I need something with substance. I don't want to watch a sewing challenge. I don't that

Eric:

project runway

Dylan:

for. Yeah. So it's just, let's be real drag race is project runway and top model here. Yeah, there we go. Thank you so much.

Eric:

I think it's based on that show too.

Dylan:

I'm sure. It's there's like definitely like the formula. Yeah, of course. Yeah. That stuff is great though. There's some definite like good. There's some talent on there and it's fabulous to, I love talented people. I've loved watching people overcome things and when, like when they're supposed to win, whatever. So

Eric:

it's fun for me. How was dance competitions for you and what's your favorite style? Your favorite dance in general?

Dylan:

I do I, like we just discussed it's Latin ballroom, so I there's five dances in that category. And so I specialize in doing cha-cha Samba, Rumba paso and jive now I want to be a Chacha girl so bad. I just think I am. I want to be one, but it's just cause the personality is so there for me, it's cheeky. It's sassy. It's fun. But paso is like angry and strong and like domineering and that's that tends to be the dance. I like do the best in.

Eric:

Yeah, I love paso and Samba. Those are probably my two favorite to watch. I haven't go ahead. Go for it. Go for it. I just say I didn't, I obviously I didn't compete in ballroom or anything like that. I was a belly dancer, so that was my style. But I appreciate all those. I did do like Latin classes for a little while, but and I saw that you did, I think it was you and your brother did there was like a video of you guys doing Samba rolls, which was like one of my favorite moves in the entire world. And I loved it. I was like, oh my God. That's like my favorite

Dylan:

movie. Oh my God. We were like, oh, that was like so long ago. It was probably at least eight years ago. Oh, yeah. Was old video. I was like, when I saw it, I was shocked for a different reason. I was like, where, like, why they're not even done well. And then he called me heavy. What the fuck? At the end he calls me. And then it zooms in on my former coach who now I actually compete against. And he's like you, he said you heavy, he say you heavy. I don't know if that sounded Ukrainian, but he's Ukrainian. So yeah. I don't even really feel like I answered your question. Competition is okay. I, it's fun to win. It's fun to do well, but I am, I'm so used to losing and not doing like as well as I would like, but I feel like I've always been the person that comes out of nowhere and then people freak the fuck out. So I'm just waiting for my moment, but like I also really take but I think because I failed so much, I really take failure in stride and I really just. Really use it as a motivator. Some people like it crushes, like I had a partner and she just couldn't move on. I'm like, girl, like we're not good enough. Get over it. It's so clear. But it doesn't mean that we shouldn't work our asses off because I really do. I hate it when people say this, but it's sometimes people use it in like a way where it's if you're not successful, it's your fault because you're not working hard enough. But I do feel like there is something to say about people who have so much hunger and then they just if you have the hunger, I think you can almost get anything to a point, oh my God, I thought that was a child, but that's a dog. That's so

Eric:

fun. Oh yeah. Sorry. My dogs will be making appearance and especially this one.

Dylan:

Oh my God. That is so hilarious. Does he have a kid that is so cute. That is good for her. She doesn't have a man, but she does have a child. And

Gil:

I love that for her. It doesn't like her hair. It needs to be done. Oh

Dylan:

my God. I love that. Anyway. Now I feel like I answered the question sufficiently. She's so sweet. I love that. That's better than a child. I agree. Yeah. Oh my God, no kids. No, I also agree. Yeah, no, Eric, how old are you? I am 42.

Eric:

Where do you live? I live in Albuquerque.

Dylan:

New Mexico. Okay. Nevermind. All right. Anyway,

Eric:

I am not opposed to relocations. Give me any reason to be out of here and it's done.

Gil:

I love

Dylan:

that look too far from me because I was living. I, as much as they would, this is probably the part I'm going to be like, what? Take this out. No I used to, I grew up mostly in Utah, so it's just half, not far from me or from where I was,

Eric:

yeah. I lived in Denver for awhile. I might go back. That's even closer. Yeah. So I need a bigger city

Dylan:

bigger than, oh yeah. Way bigger.

Eric:

Maybe not land wise, but definitely population.

Dylan:

I feel like that would be more gay to Denver. Yeah. Yeah. I would definitely, even though I feel like the more gays are around, like the more kind of, like dating troubles. There are some times I feel like I'd rather be in a more gay centric area. Like Albuquerque just doesn't sound spicy enough.

Eric:

It's not enough at all. It's not at all.

Dylan:

No, this is your single problem.

Eric:

The food is spicy, but It's like I'm watching white paint dry on a wall. That's how the gay scene is here.

Dylan:

I love that. That's my Albuquerque.

Eric:

You would do very well out here. You think so?

Dylan:

Absolutely. Perfect. Thank you. I do need to move them about bloody time. I'm 26. I need to get a man, right? Yeah.

Eric:

Oh time. I actually thought you were like 21 or 22 oh my

Dylan:

God. Thank you so much. Oh my God, there was this guy actually hitting me up and I was like, he asked me how old I was. I was like, I'm 26 now. And he's oh, wow. So he said he's since such a baby. And I thought this guy was just like starting to drink, could just start to vote and wait in ages anyway, who fucking cares. I'm tired. But and he's no, I'm 30. I'm like, fuck. You're just, you just, you twink face for the rest of your life. And I love that for you. That's fabulous 30 and he lets he's fucking 21. That's fabulous. Anyway. Yeah.

Eric:

We had a guest on just the other day and he's older than I am and I'm like, you look like you are at least 20 years younger than I am. Oh,

Gil:

care skincare is on

Dylan:

point. I really feel like there definitely is more to it than skincare, but yes, I, oh, going back to that first question, I was like, Hey, this is also like to the COVID thing. Like it's also a moment for me to be like, okay, eye cream face cream. Hey, why not start looking into Rogaine? Let's get into her. Let's it's just, yeah, it was also a good moment for me with COVID anyway.

Eric:

No I actually need to start taking better care of my skin. I've always been like really blessed with good skin. And now I'm like, I can start to see where I'm aging a little bit.

Dylan:

Oopsie. Your skin's like we've had it read, cover your ass forever. Like chipping in

Eric:

we protest.

Gil:

Yeah.

Eric:

Have you faced any demons or any internalized homophobia?

Dylan:

Oh, I feel like we all do and that's like me, like trying to make it, make myself feel better. Nothing like insane. Like I didn't watch drag race for a long time. It's oh, do I want to be that person? They want to be that gay. And not that gay in like percentage wise is obviously all I want to do is touch boy. Like I just want to touch guys so much. That's all I want to do. I see a hot guy on the fucking subway. I want to kick them over,

Eric:

The splits and like on hinge, your job, like right now. Yeah,

Dylan:

here we go. 5, 6, 7, 8 Patty. So it's just so yeah, I just didn't think I want it to be, I like, is that who I am then I was like, you know what, fuck it. This is what it is. And you love it. I think it was like the fear of being like, oh, you love it. And it's just so stupid. I was like, you know what, Dylan, get over your fucking self. Just watch drag race and stupid fucking fool. And then also like yesterday, Which is another thing, which is hilarious. This is like another level for me where it's oh, I never thought I'd be the person to wear a fucking crop top to a gay club. This is like another like level in my gayness. I just feel and that's another, bring it back to the first question. Just I feel like COVID also made me more gay because they feel like it's just giving me time to really accept and just be okay with what's going on. Not to say like I've had like huge issues, but yeah, I definitely had huge issues, but just oh, do I want to watch drag race? And I think that also might stem from the fact that sometimes I think I'm better than I, I have a debilitating problem. You guys, sometimes they think I'm better than everyone else. And I'm just like, I'm not doing what everyone else does. So if all the gays are watching drag race, I'm not watching it. So it was just so yeah. That wasn't funny. Okay. Thanks guys. Anyway.

Eric:

Thanks guys. No, we were just really invested into what you were saying. So thank you so

Dylan:

much for that cover, Eric. Thank you. We were really interested

Eric:

and I actually have started wearing crop tops myself. It's taken me a long time, but I just recently started wearing crop tops to gay clubs as well. I was actually just recently in Denver with just having fun. And I was at a club with a friend of mine and I'm wearing a crop top that says on the front, it says cum rag with an arrow that points up. And then on the back it says, cum dump with an arrow pointing down. And so I'm just sitting there, like on the dance floor, dancing, my friends kind of dancing with me and then she's going off to smoke or get drinks or just walk around. And some guy kept coming by us. And I think he was like trying to talk to me for a little bit, but then he was trying to talk to her. But long story short, he was like, outside is is that your husband or your boyfriend? How in the hell do you think I'm straight where I'm wearing a cum dump in a cum rag crop top? Come on now.

Dylan:

It makes me laugh my ass off. Maybe it like straight people think they're funny. I don't know.

Eric:

And then I was wearing another, I was at another club here and I was wearing one that said, cum slut. And where are you getting? These are all my designs. I have a t-shirt line. Okay.

Dylan:

So I love them, but now I'm actually rethinking this. I just, where I actually probably should not be wearing those because I know people will come up to me and be like, oh yeah, Let's prove that. So I back, I'm not gonna attempt that. I,

Eric:

I have other ones though. I have glazed donut and must be eight inches. It must be eight plus inches to ride this ride and stuff like that. So

Dylan:

love you, Eric. Oh my God. This is hilarious. Hilarious.

Eric:

So I was wearing a cum slut crop and some guy comes up to me. He's I should have worn something like that. He's dude, You need to say pussy for the rest of us. And I'm like, what?

Dylan:

Oh my God. Straight people. I can't, I'm done with straight people and I teach them for a living I'm so done, you guys I'm so fucking done. Thank God.

Gil:

Anyway,

Eric:

what are some of your guilty pleasure?

Dylan:

Oh, I'm not guilty about my pleasures. How dare you? I don't have guilty pleasures. Okay. Sorry. That's okay. I watched porn sometimes. I don't know if I don't feel guilty about that. Everyone does it.

Eric:

Yeah. Like I watched the Housewives of almost every city. So that's kinda my guilty pleasure. You feel

Dylan:

guilty about it, Eric?

Eric:

Yeah. I don't necessarily feel guilty about it. It's just sometimes I'm like, yeah, I watched the Housewives too. Cause I was like, I hate reality TV. I'm like I watched the house of his, I watched Bravo.

Dylan:

Okay. I, I wouldn't, but I feel like that's fabulous. I think you should be okay with that and feel like you own it. Own it, Eric. I will own it. Okay, great. I'm such a fucking Virgo. It like so fucking painful anyway. I'm like Eric fucking own it. Okay. Next. Yeah.

Eric:

What is it? Is it my, not my ascending. is it my ascending. I think my ascending in

Dylan:

virgo. I think I've Virgo, Capricorn. Okay. So I'm just like very, just bossy and bitchy.

Eric:

I'm Taurus, Virgo, Aquarius.

Dylan:

Okay. So I think this is why we vibe. I think this is awesome. Yeah. Just like you're just laughing and I love that. You're just laughing the whole time. It really brightens my mood, but what's your sign? What's your sign Gil?.

Gil:

I have a cancer Leo cusp. So cancer, technically, I really hope you're

Dylan:

mostly cancer. Cause Leo we're just not I'm

Gil:

almost split without one moods of the cancer with the confidence of a Leo. Okay.

Dylan:

I love confidence. So as long as you're not, oh my God.

Gil:

Because I can't do the whole weeping Willow and all of that. I don't have time for that shit. No.

Dylan:

Okay. Weeping. Willow. I love that. Okay, great. I cannot,

Eric:

we're both actually cusp cause I'm an aries taurus cusp, correct?

Dylan:

You all my friends. Awesome. Oh my God. Like I'm a Virgo Libra cusp. I'm the last day of virgo.

Eric:

Yeah, that was the first day of taurus. So I w I was born 11 minutes into the taurus sign on the year I was born.

Dylan:

Wow. It's be,

Eric:

yeah. A bunch of cuspiesover here.

Gil:

Yeah. All my friends are born on the 20th of each month and it was pretty much, we're all cusp friends, so we're all hot messes. I love that. So do you have a musical diva?

Dylan:

Yeah. I like, I love lady Gaga with all my heart. I was actually telling someone like this morning, actually, like when I heard poker face for the first time, it changed my life. I swear to God as stupid as it sounds so stupid, but I was like 13 or 14 at the time and I will listen to it on a CD. It was like a now 21 or now something. And it had Kesha and like Brittany and I think Florida and stuff like that. And I'm just hearing poker face for the first time. I was like, oh my God. So I fucking love lady Gaga. I love everything she stands for. I think she's a very, I just love people who are authentic at the end of the day. Even though I, when I was a five-year-old fucking, I'm still a pink fan by fucking love pink with all my heart. I love pink. Get the party started. Yeah. Oh yes. Oh my God,

Eric:

that misunderstood album in general is like just, I think an iconic album. And

Dylan:

she's just such a real, she just comes. I hope it's true, but she comes off as such a real fucking person. I just love someone who is just real. I'm just a big fan of genuineness. Oh yeah,

Eric:

absolutely. That will pink.

Dylan:

One of the few people, I would look her pussy to completion. I swear to God, I'm like, listen, I'm doing this for my people. Here you go. it would be my fucking pleasure bitch. I don't please.

Eric:

No longer a gold star.

Dylan:

God knocked out. I will give up my platinum status for your better, to fucking bronze

Gil:

or whatever.

Eric:

How was dating in an app kind of world? Ooh.

Dylan:

Oh, so much fun. I love it. I love it. Now. I feel like dating in general sucks I especially like in the area that I'm in so heavily, I was actually just talking to her friend about this and like how it's just so there's lots of gay people around here. And so everyone's like very much looking for the next best thing everyone's coming in and out it's and not just in a sexual way. And yeah it's hard. I hate it's really is the worst. And like recently, like I've actually had a guy that I'm like, oh my God, like this worked out. like, you seem like you're really into me. I'm really into you we're both sarcastic. And people seem to get along well, like we you're just so easy to talk with him. And before he left and we need to do dinner, like we to do something that's like a little bit like, a little bit more formal. And he's yeah. And I said, okay, cheesecake factory. It is, you're going to get me cheesecake factory. And then he's oh my God, you know me so well, but oh my God this is for real. And then he's like having a hard time messaging me back for some reason. I don't know what's going on, but I'm like, what the fuck? So swear that would explain the weird noises when I call him. But yeah, so it's just, I don't know. Dating is hard, especially as a gay person, I feel I don't think it matters like the way you do it, whether it be a bar or whether it be in half or whatever, it's just, whether it be like someone that you met while working in a home or, yeah. That's how I met my last boyfriend. Oh, so yeah, I worked with a nonprofit organization and he was, he worked with a client at one of the homes I worked at like occasionally and then he hit me up on Instagram and then we had a blissful three months relationship and it was fabulous. That's my magic number. Once it gets three months, it's over, they're like, listen, we can't do this anymore. You're a lot. And I'm done

Eric:

that's their loss then.

Dylan:

Oh my God. Totally. That's why I said,

Eric:

apps can be interesting. I like, I have. I guess a like hate relationship with them. Definitely not a love hate, but like a like hate relationship with them and I'll be on them. And then I'm like, okay, I'm done with apps forever. And then I get off for like maybe a day or two, sometimes a month. And then I get really bored and I got sucked right back into it and I'll be like, okay, let's see, who hits me up? Let me change my picture and see if I can get more hits.

Dylan:

Yeah. I'm also a very competitive person. And so I was like, oh, there's a ranking system on Scruff. Let's see of how, like how I can get ranked. I'm just like, no, this is stupid. It's not what a score on Scruff. I think. Yeah.

Eric:

He's already know. He doesn't know anything about apps. Cause he and his husband had been together for 12

Dylan:

years when I started

Gil:

dating, like that was the thing. It was like right as Grindr was the app because my roommate at the time had it and he just went through a breakup and I was like, oh hi you bye you. And it was like in and out. But I had no idea. And before then it was what the hell was. You're on not AOL, you're a Craigslist. Their Craigslist would have been your other option or you're looking at like the news, I don't know, news ads or you're knocking onto the door of a bathroom stall or something of that nature. Like it was different

Dylan:

back then when she goes back to that sounds a lot more fun and adventurous

Eric:

with all like the little foot tap.

Gil:

Remember in college, there was holes that the art buildings, bathroom stalls. Oh, if you didn't know that for us

Dylan:

for almost a semester. And I was like, this isn't for me.

Gil:

Oh yeah. The glory holes were there.

Eric:

I never had a glory hole experience in college. I've had one since then, but not while it's college. So

Dylan:

I love that too. Oh my God. You guys.

Gil:

So that's why the app, I don't know, like I've told my husband, I'm like, if I got thrown into the scene again, I have no fucking idea what I would be doing. Morse code, everyone joked with him. If this ever happened, if you suddenly like drop dead because oh, I know

Dylan:

Gil still needs, love, GIl. I'll help you. I'll hold

Gil:

right there. What is this?

Dylan:

What is it? What is the gym, bud? What the fuck

Gil:

does that mean?

Dylan:

Get outta here. masc4masc.

Gil:

I had to Google that. I had no idea what that meant. I had no idea

Dylan:

who

Gil:

I was like top for top. I would like that just sounds terrible.

Dylan:

Oh, that's what we're talking about. You just slammed your hotdogs together. We talking about

Eric:

one sleeve, two dogs.

Dylan:

Oh God. Yeah. People are gross and yeah, I don't know. I think it's nice. I've actually deleted my grinder. I think I'd have to look at my TikTok to actually see when I deleted it. Cause I actually documented it. I'm like guys, if we did it yeah, I right. It's nice if it was like sucking up a lot of my time and my brain power and I feel I just hate being disappointed by stupid people and like people who don't really care to think about others. And I just, I don't need that as that's why I thought it was just hanging. So one of my brainpower also, I I like was able to get a Tinder again and it was so fucking addictive. I remember why I stopped doing Tinder because it was just, it's so addictive to swipe. It's fun. It's fun to see who's around. So I was like, I have to delete this. It gets getting disruptive.

Eric:

Tinder's was very much like grinder though, at least in my experiences where it's very And that's it, everyone's there for that. They're like, oh no, the Tinder's first serious relationship.

Dylan:

No, it's not, no, it's not online. It's no, it's not like everyone here is It's Tinder. This is serious. We're gonna, we're gonna meet. And we're gonna start talking about having babies and shit. It's

Eric:

still bring your knee pads and

Dylan:

yeah. Bring your ball gag. Yeah. It's like really? Which

Eric:

color?

Dylan:

Yeah. Oh my God. That would be, I would be, that would be like a grindr picture to end all grindr pictures. Just like a picture of you with just like your collection of ball gags but like integral, rainbow, like color coordinated. That would

Eric:

be amazing.

Dylan:

Oh my God. That'd be great. Photo shoot. I should get into that. I need to talk to someone about this. They pretty

Eric:

fabulous. Yes, you should do that what are your thoughts on stereotypes? And have you ever been pigeonholed into any stereotypes or do you think you fit any stereotypes?

Dylan:

No, I don't feel like I've been pigeonholed into stereotype at all. I guess the only stereotype I feel like I've been put in is I have a bottom. I don't identify as a bottom. Like at all. Like I just don't. I just feel I don't know, this is like a completely different topic. Does this even go with the question? I feel like, because I feel like this is such an issue with the gay community is you don't really, first of all, I didn't really know at topping and bottoming was when I was 18. Cause obviously, heavily raised religious, like praise religious lately. And I was like, you don't hear about that stuff. Like who, even if you were religious, weren't religious, who hears about that? Like I thought it was just like, oh, who gives and receives oral? I didn't know oh, like this, guy's going to put his fingers up your ass because you've got a big ass. And like now, like somehow, now everyone knows, because this one man did it to you somehow. Now everyone's oh, it's like Twilight. Like you got marked oh, you're a bottom now. So it's just what the fuck? But then like some people like, and I've heard stories like from people are like, oh, like I actually prefer to bottom. But because like ever since I first started having sex it was just like, Nope, people prefer sit on my Dick. Like the first time now everyone does it. It's so strange. It's almost, it's literally like Tinkerbell, have you guys watched Tinkerbell where it's like they, their powers get given to them. I have not seen that. No, you don't have to pledge. Anyway. Yeah. I went on the limb there. You're welcome. So yeah. Anyway, I feel I don't. Yeah, this is going to go on a tangent. It's going to spiral

Eric:

basically many tangents. We will come back to our point, like six episodes later.

Dylan:

I don't know. I just feel like also like with his top and bottoming shit I feel like the other problem is people some people like, treat it, like it's like hetero bullshit. Like it's like the bottoms, the woman the bottom we're all men. That's why we're gay. Yes. Off. And I hate you. You're like, oh, like here's how to get your bottom to no, it's not. It's not, it's just, yeah. I that's also why I don't like bottoming. I don't like, anyway, I'm done talking about this. I'm trying to figure out like where to go to

Eric:

no, I think it makes sense. I used to, I guess when I was first coming out and like accepting myself, I didn't really know where I fit, but then I have a really big ass. So I just fell into the quote unquote bottom role or whatever, but then, because I'm very hetero passing going into the whole stereotype and bullshit stuff. A lot of people wanted me to top because I looked manly, whatever that is. And and then, so then I was like, okay, I'm a bottom, but I will tops. And I was like, I'm a vers bottom. And now I just say I'm vers, or I can do whatever role I need to do. Like just.

Dylan:

Good for you. Whenever someone like asks to fucking top me there's always like a sigh and an eye roll. Like I just don't want to do it. I just like, also like the maintenance it's such bullshit. I'm sorry. It's just such bullshit. I think it's so stupid. Like it's an ass. That's just all agree. It's an ass let's stop being dumb. Let's stop it. Anyway. I'm done talking about,

Eric:

top privilege. Privilege is very much a thing. Yeah.

Dylan:

It's so annoying. I hate, I just, Ugh. I just all be nice to each other. Can we all do that? The understanding please? Exactly. We're asking for too much. Oh, God, I'm hot now.

Gil:

Hot and bothered now

Dylan:

done. Yeah.

Eric:

We'll make it rain over here. People, our listeners are going to be like, oh, he's hot and bothered. Let's make it rain and donate some money.

Dylan:

Yes. I was so hot and bothered. Everybody. Please donate.

Eric:

What do you think of the important, how important do you think pronouns are?

Dylan:

Thankfully, I've never been in a place where that matters to me, but I feel like if it's important to the people that it's important to, it's important. I don't know. I'm not really ed. I'm not the most educated in those kinds of issues, unfortunately, but I do feel like I like, at the end of the day, if somebody requests something. That's going to make them feel better and make them feel seen and make them feel like they're an actual they feel like there's like a human being, like, why would we deny them that's yeah. So if someone wants to go buy something, that's like not the norm. I think. Why is that a problem for you? Yeah. If someone says I'm, they, them just their, they, that they're just get over yourself and just, it's not about you. It's about them. Absolutely. So anyway, that's really my stance on that. I really don't have anything deeper than that. That's

Eric:

fine. Sometimes just the tip is good enough or mid-shaft

Dylan:

Whatever comes first. Yeah. I fold mine in half. I just stick it in. Oh, hopefully it doesn't pick up good old middle part.

Gil:

So what's your opinion on pride. And do you think it's still important today?

Dylan:

I think it's very important. Good. Next question. I oh my God. Like I I didn't, I guess that's another thing I guess like going back to like other questions where it's oh, like coming out and accepting yourself. Like I went to my first pride in actually this year. That's another blessing of COVID I feel like I've had so much freedom to like really experience being gay and like getting learn more things about gayness. And it's been such, it's been such a nice moment. But yeah, pride is important because we still I'm having control with the camera. We still don't have we're not like guaranteed like rights to I remember which one it is. I think we've gotten one of them or it's it's either housing or work or like neither. I can't remember, but not too long ago we weren't guaranteed either. Like you could just be fired for being gay. You could be denied housing for being gay. That's insane. So of course I can try. It's important until we're like all

Eric:

Yeah, go for it. I wouldn't say. And you have Ohio who just came out with their law saying that like doctors and pharmacists and healthcare insurances and nurses can deny healthcare to LGBTQ community. And so now I know California has enacted a state ban saying that no state travel can happen to Ohio.

Dylan:

Really?

Eric:

Yeah. So that struggle is still real. That's why we have pride.

Dylan:

Yeah, exactly. So like people I actually, like I've been posting on my tiktok I actually had this friend who I knew was like conservative. I She's a born again, Christian. Like she's a convinced We had this work thing and which I thought was so stupid on my jobs part. If they hear those, which they probably won't, I would don't even care, like

Eric:

people who listened to this podcast worldwide. So

Dylan:

we'll perfect. And both of them are my boss or my bosses. Dylan, we heard oh yeah, you did well, I'm quitting. Oh, no. But they're going to Jersey city pride and I was like, okay Hey are you going? And what what time are you going to be there? So it's a work function. I was expecting her to go. And she said, she straight up said to me, and I was teaching her. So this is in the middle of our lesson and I have to finish it out because I want that money. And she's I don't feel like Pride's worth celebrating. And he knows I'm. Like what the fuck? And she's I hope that's not I hope that's not offensive to you. And I first said, no, it's like trying to be polite. And then I quickly went and was like, you know what? It is offensive and it's wrong, but whatever. Cause I wanted to like, make sure I got my, I want to get my money. And I was very angry. I was so angry at her for the rest of that lesson. I just could not believe that she said that to my face. And I knew that was probably her stance. Come on. But like her saying it like that to me, and as someone like she claims is a friend is so outrageous. And then I told her off after, cause she wanted to bring, she wanted to talk about it more after our lesson. And I just put my finger in her face, literally put my finger in a hand camera in her face. And I just told her, yeah, I told her she almost, she started to cry. I just could not, I was not going to, it was not okay with that at all. And now we're not friends anymore, obviously, and yet we still work together and it's pretty awkward, but I just, it was just so blatant. she could easily had been like, this is not a space for me. Or I don't feel comfortable taking up like space when it's like, meant for like gay people or whatever. She could easily have said that, or she could have lied, should have easily said, oh, I'm going to go see my husband, Pennsylvania or whatever. Like she it was just, no, I don't think it's worth celebrating. And then on the next day she tried to Gaslight me was like, oh I didn't say that. We've talked about damn made it up. Yeah,

Eric:

I hate when people try to Gaslight. Oh God,

Dylan:

I didn't say that. Oh, okay. Yeah. So I yelled at you for no reason. You fucking cunt really,

Eric:

that was like my favorite word.

Dylan:

I just don't like, like I am someone that really does not want to yell at people. Like as much as I do love the drama of being stern, like stern, I'm telling I'm full with full on. Like I'm shaking now after, because of all the adrenaline, because I just totally handed your ass to you because of how shitty your stance is and based on religion really fuck off. There are like so many like instances of like gay shit. And also just also like it's known that the verse that they all use is bullshit because it was put in there translated incorrectly to say like a man can lie with a man. And also if God was really against homosexuality, like why was he hanging out with 12 men all the time? Exactly.

Eric:

All

Dylan:

Jesus was a twink all be fucking real with ourselves.

Eric:

And he was into bondage. Look at him on the cross.

Dylan:

That's bottom energy, honey, bottom energy.

Eric:

And like, all of these Christians don't have any issues with their cotton-poly blends and it says you should not mix fabrics.

Dylan:

That's the other thing that bothers me is if you're going to really dedicate yourself to something, which is just no problem with religion in general, like you either be in it or you're not in it at all, do not be like, oh yeah, I'm totally this. And then be like, And this, I just don't like hypocrisy is the bottom line. It's just so gross.

Eric:

Very much. I went to a Christian high school and I know, and that's why I was like, yeah, y'all are a bunch of fucking hypocrites. Like I'm like not, I had to take a Bible class every year. So I had to study the Bible extensively pretty extensively. And then yeah, like you guys are not living by this at all. All of us heathens are like way more Christ-like than all of you guys.

Dylan:

It is so freaking crazy. And like, when people are like, oh if you don't have the Bible, how do you have morals? Okay, it doesn't take a fucking fool to be like, oh, I'm not going to kill people because it's wrong. If you need a book to tell you that we've got bigger issues.

Eric:

Yeah. And a book of fiction come on

Dylan:

now, get outta here. How do you have morals? It's easy. Oh my God.

Eric:

What do you think about allyship and what makes a good ally? Obviously not. You're the girl that you got into it with? Oh, no, she's

Dylan:

a bad ally. She's a bat. No, she's not even an ally. I don't know. I guess someone that I don't really know guys, I guess someone that's like willing to obviously we need people to stick up for us and be willing to work with us. And also be willing to adapt and help other people's adapt. For example, like the pronoun thing I feel like people are just so they just get so round up so easily about stupid small shit. And so I feel like having allies like no, it's not that big of a deal then. Like it could possibly be like help, like ideas like that spread and like awareness and whenever. I guess, I don't know. I don't, you guys, I don't really hang out with straight people much, so I don't really have any friends. I'm a lot. So I'm a lot,

Eric:

I'm an introvert. I don't have a whole lot of friends either. So

Dylan:

I really like to just sit in my room or sit on the couch with my best friend and just watch shit, or do masks or I love energy and I love going out and hanging out with people. But at the end of the day, like if I have to pick I really love just to be in and do like fun things with someone I like,

Gil:

So what advice would you give your younger, you?

Dylan:

Oh, I don't know.

Gil:

Maybe it's two years ago, but yeah,

Dylan:

I would expect it to go like the other day, like I just graduated sixth grade. It was crazy. Mrs. Bodily whore, such a bitch Alright. I was actually thinking about this question as it. What would I tell myself? Cause it wasn't like I discovered on my own don't care about what people think because I was just bullied so heavily, so fucking heavily. And I eventually, when I was like a young teenager, like 14, 13, I was like, you know what, who gives a fuck? Who gives a fuck? Like why let people control your life that you don't even care about? That's the advice I would give myself because I figured it out by myself. I would probably say you need to stop comparing yourself to other. Yeah. Cause I still, I struggle with that. So fucking hard. It is it's not as bad as it used to be. I try to really keep myself away from things that like, make me do that or facilitate those feelings. But I just have always had a problem with comparing my body. I've had a problem with my body's not bad, but I'm always like, Ooh, I want to look like it's just such a fucking problem. Or like comparing people's lives. Things like it's just or even when I was a kid I, I didn't have, I don't know. I didn't really have a father figure and I was always so angry and so mad, but I didn't have a dad that like that. Like I perceived that other people had my dad is the scout, like boys camp. I get, my dad didn't even give a shit about me. As a whole, I felt like he didn't give me. And if I texted him that he'd be like, how I like, no bitch, you stole my fucking money. Don't be acting like you care about me anyway. But yeah, so it's just, yeah. I would say don't compare yourself to others. We're just something I have to constantly tell myself, but yeah. I would probably tell myself nip that in the bud earlier. Cause those locker rooms in middle school, am I right? I was there like two years ago. So yeah, there be some guys in there I'm like, oh my God, you're so fucking hot. Oh my God. And I'm like here, like flat chested, fully flat. chested I'm barely not flat-chested now. Cause I've been working out recently, but like then they like have the hot belly button hair and like it's just. Tan skin. Anyway, we're all wet now.

Eric:

It's all sticky over here.

Dylan:

You're welcome. You guys.

Eric:

Yes. Thank you. I I think that's great advice. I still, I struggle every day with caring. What other people think and I've I had to I have to sit myself down like multiple times a day. What other people think of you is none of your business who cares? Fuck them. Yeah. I still struggle with the comparing oh my gosh, what have I done so wrong in my life? And I'm super dramatic. So

Dylan:

I love drama. It's so fun.

Eric:

Which ways do you think the LGBTQ community is problematic and how do you think it could improve?

Dylan:

I don't know about all like the different the little sections because they only really floating in one section. But I feel like from what I've heard, there's this a lot of misogyny, like brought in that's my biggest issue. And I thought it was also like, yeah, I feel there's lots of like people who like, come in, they still have those I guess traumas, like from them, like growing up in like their lives and their situations that bring in like sometimes like I'm sure in the gay community where they're like third dense trans people, which actually I learned about when I was 18 and I was confused about that. I'm like, wait, we're being persecuted too. And we're all like a part of. This same family, like we're all supposed to be a team. I just don't understand why there are some of us. I don't know how many it is. I'm sure it's probably a disgusting number. I don't know. But I really hope it's not, but just it's just so gross that I don't know, that'd be like bringing in like straight people. Shit. That's really the bottom line for me. Keep your straight shit out. I always find it. Yeah. I don't know. That probably sounds bad, but in the sense that like don't bring in, don't bring in their issues with us, let's all be a team and be together and be nicer. And I'm one to talk. I am a fucking like raging asshole sometimes, but like at the end of the day I am a bitch, but heart of gold, but it's just, I don't know. I don't know. I feel like sometimes there's just. I don't know. And I suppose there's so much misogyny sometimes bring up like a bottom thing. And then like my friend, she was telling me like sometimes if you're not like in the lesbian community, like if you're not butch enough, I don't know if that's politically, correct or not. I don't know. I don't know. I'm gay. What do I know? So as sometimes even not Butch enough, that might be a problem. Which is so crazy to me that it's like in both the GNL, if you're not masc enough, that could possibly be a problem. That's so fucking, it's so wild to me.

Gil:

I understand because the whole pride started on a trans woman doing this. It all started on the fem, the ones who stand up the most. It wasn't the masc. That's what I don't understand. Why are we, or are they more looked down upon.

Dylan:

It's because people who are different or just easier just to throw to the fire, it's so gross and

Gil:

ridiculous. And especially if they're trying to put us into that box of what is, how do we make the gay world conceptualize to a straight person? Bottom woman, top means man. I'm like, no, it's two men. I'm just saying,

Eric:

so that's what happens when toxic masculinity society and yeah. About that.

Dylan:

Go ahead. Yeah, go for it. I don't really know what I'm going to say. I'm just gonna I was just gonna spew you just you please take me, take the mic away, please.

Eric:

I was going to say is that I find it interesting how one marginalized group can condemn another marginalized group when we're both marginalized groups and we need to join together.

Dylan:

And we're also under the same umbrella. It's just yeah.

Eric:

But even like, when you think about like people of color, like I'm Latino and I know, and a lot of Latinos, like the machismo has there's a lot of issues with the gays in the Latin community. And so you're also a marginalized group, so why aren't you sticking up for this marginalized group and

Dylan:

yeah. Yeah. It's yeah, if only it just, you just change in a day,

Eric:

our magic wand,

Dylan:

just bam. You sound like my fucking old. land lady. She was a Bulgarian. I'm old. No. My old, my former landlady does that shatter, christ. She's like this old Bulgarian woman. I'm so grateful to her. Cause like my rent was $500 in fucking Queens for a room to myself. Wow. I will take it. Yeah. That's like adjust above sucking a man's Dick to stay for the night that's just above. So it's it's pretty insane. But like she would always say, I'm not even gonna try to it always ends up sounding Italian, but but like she, she would always tell me like, Dylan, your English is so beautiful. Like bitch, I can barely speak English where you talking about it's my first and only language. I fucking sad or sometimes what the fuck? And then she would tell me that she wishes she had a magic. And she wishes that she could dress herself with her magic stick. And would just say I hate getting dressed in the morning telling me how she hates eating in the morning. Just like all this crazy shit. And during COVID like, she would say Dylan, these masks don't work. And yeah. Okay. Lady like less, okay. Former Soviet union. Let's relax. Let's calm down. During limited Kavanough trial, like hearing whatever, like she's like Dylan, this is all show. This is cause the government is doing something else. I'm like, honey. No, I, no, I don't think that's what this is, honey. I'm sorry. You're operating on a different level, sweetheart. Yeah.

Eric:

I S I still am confused on the whole, it's a hoax, it's a government thing. Like it is fucking international. It is a global pandemic

Dylan:

and for what? We're, what. What do they stand to gain? And also if it's that big of a secret, like if the more people that know the more it's going to be leaked so it's just it's just so impossible. There's just no way. That's true. Are you serious? Especially with someone like me, but I heard it's just there's just, yeah, listen, you guys it's late and I am just, it is so bad.

Eric:

What type, what types of things do you have going on for you now? What is the future for you?

Dylan:

What's the future for me? Yeah. I don't know. It's the future silly goose.

Eric:

What kind of things do you have going on now?

Dylan:

Lots of modeling things and dancing things and yeah, I'm really happy with where I'm going right now. Honestly. I didn't say this. I don't think, but like right now, like my current, like main job, I'm not really like the happiest with, but I really do feel like there's a lot of promise and a lot of like good things that are going to come. So yeah, I've always been a very hard worker and I've always been someone that's I'm going to do this. So I don't know, just lots of modeling opportunities and lots of dancing. And I feel like my dancing's been taking off more than it has in a while. It's like right now I'm on the up and up. Thank God. And of course, like almost every time in my experience, whenever I fucking say that, like that's when things started fucking crashing down. So my life sucks. Everything sucks,

Eric:

but everything goes good. Everything's

Dylan:

sucks

Eric:

yeah. Okay. If anyone wants to follow you, is there any social media contacts they can follow?

Dylan:

Oh, it's basically I think it's like @dylcary throughout everything. Okay. Yeah. I try to keep it consistent. Yes. Why? I tried to put that link on what you sent me and it was like, oh my God. Am I like going to give him like the link to my actual page, like where you can edit shit and like posts it was like, I'm just like, hopefully he asks me,

Gil:

we just plastered with the Q lounge. That's

Dylan:

good. Cause I was like what do I do? And I don't really want to ask, but didn't want to like, seem like a fucking amateur.

Eric:

I had many people asking me what do you want for this? What do you want for this? How should I fill this out? I'm like I haven't seen the form.

Dylan:

Oh my it's not.

Eric:

And I was like, this is all you need to write, blah, blah, blah. Like I'm always here to answer questions. That's why I leave my number on the bottom of that email was.

Dylan:

I love that. Yeah. Just, I think it's dylcary just Dyl C a R Y. Okay. Nothing special. At one point, my Instagram was dylicious and then,

Eric:

oh, I love that. That's

Dylan:

adorable. Wouldn't it be funny if I'm like, oh my God, it works. And then my, my coach made fun of me for it and I changed it and I wish I didn't. Cause now it's not, I can't use it

Eric:

Thank you so much for making time to come talk with us. I know it's late where you're at and you have an early flight, so I don't want to keep you up much later, but thank you so much. It was great to be able to chat with you and talk to you really

Dylan:

enjoyed it. Thank you for enduring, like my craziness and my weirdness. I hope what you've got is salvageable and usable. Absolutely.

Eric:

This has been a great interview. I've really enjoyed this.

Dylan:

I really hope so. Yeah. So I just really go on tangents. I'm so sorry. You guys,

Eric:

we do all the time. Yeah. Like I said, we will like answer, we'll go on a tangent and like six episodes later oh, that was the point of when we were talking about this, that it makes our podcast episodic, even though it's really not. So

Dylan:

add to that motif style.

Eric:

Yes. So thank you. And thank you to all of our listeners and we will see you guys or not see you, but I know you guys can listen to us next time, so thank you very much. Bye.

Gil:

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Eric:

until next time live in your authenticity.